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virgogirl
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posted July 19, 2012 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Hera
How to post your chart without posting your personal info? Seems you were able to somehow cover it up. Thanks a lot!

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posted July 19, 2012 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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How to post your chart without posting your personal info? Seems you were able to somehow cover it up. Thanks a lot!

Oh, I saved it on my pc and then opened it with Paint (I'm pretty sure you have it installed) and went with the eraser above the details I wanted gone. Or you can just crop the top part of the chart out. Then u upload it with photobucket, tinypic, imageshack etc.

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posted July 19, 2012 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you. I'll try cropping it on my cell.

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posted July 19, 2012 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't know about precessed solar return chart. And I find it very interesting. I was comparing some of my previous solar return charts: unprecessed and precessed and am very confused as to which is the most accurate?

What are your thoughts on this subjects?

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posted July 20, 2012 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ueharaa:
I didn't know about precessed solar return chart. And I find it very interesting. I was comparing some of my previous solar return charts: unprecessed and precessed and am very confused as to which is the most accurate?

What are your thoughts on this subjects?



Question- probably dumb...
How do you get your precessed chart done? I just did my first sr and have no idea how to look back in time...

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posted July 20, 2012 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorcha has mentioned how to do it in a previous post.

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Personally, I've started using precessed charts and think they may be more accurate. Ask me next year. If you want to know how to do a precessed chart and don't have Solar Fire (astro program) do the following:

Go to astro.com and choose your birth info along with SR chart *but* convert it to Fagan/Bradley and *then* load it. Take the date and time (should still be the same location where you will be) and make up a new tropical chart - do not use Fagan/Bradley when you make up this new chart - make sure you use tropical. That is your precessed SR chart

If you're curious, you can compare the two at the end of the year. Or you can make up a precessed chart for the year(s) past to compare and see which is more accurate and telling of your year.



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posted July 20, 2012 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. So I finally found it on astro. Came out strangly different then regular. Moved everything around and all of a sudden I have cardinal air all over for next year...
In sr I was equally fixed fire and water.
And what happened to my scorpionic underlayer?
I quess will have to wait and see what it'll bring.
Which chart is more accurate from your experiences guys?

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posted July 20, 2012 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ps. I did read the post - just didn't know where to look for it. Finally someone on the web mentioned "zodiac"...thanks though

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posted July 20, 2012 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
planet in conj to the angles are the most important. I use www.astro.com for SR chart. I often read solar returns by my intuition.

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posted July 20, 2012 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Virgo Girl

Been away for a couple days but it looks like you figured it out. And yes, check planets aspecting the angles for both your SR and natal. Also, regardless of which one is more accurate (that's always up for debate) look to the most exact aspects, either between inner planets to inner planets or outer to inner. For instance, I had an SR last year (precessed) which had Saturn making an exact opposition to my Moon. Well, that can indicate depression and an emotional split which is what occurred. It was the most exact aspect so it was the one which was the most likely to play itself out.

My current theory (which might change) is to look at both precessed and non-precessed charts and to find the repeating themes in order to get a handle on the most likely energies. See what repeats through both of them using the most exact aspects and you are likely to see a pattern

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posted July 20, 2012 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. So here I get confused...
Regular sr chart came out very grim- planetery placements in houses and aspects- all bad...
Comparing it with naal it came out better, but in precessd I discovered 2 gand trines in air- neptune moon mars, neptune moon saturn. Neptune in 2, moon in 6, saturn11, mars 10 house.
Any ideas?

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posted July 20, 2012 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Sorcha. Nice that you're back
I didn't have a chance to really look into the precessed one yet- but I will compare them.
Lets hope that saturn will be easy on me. But from what I saw in it so far is venus square saturn and mars and MC. Oh boy...
What are your thoughts on the trines?
Thanks for all your inputs

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posted July 20, 2012 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, look at your SR alone first and find the most exact aspects - the ones with the least amount of orb.

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posted July 20, 2012 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok. 3* orb max- sun square mercury, venus conjunction Asc, mercury square jupiter,uranus square pluto (exact!),sun square jupiter. Neptune square NN (but I wonder if I should look at conjunction only in this aspect...)
Your thoughts?

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Bump!

I am looking through my past Solar Returns and that theory of the malefic on angle in difficult years is so spot on. I looked at the year I was physically abused - Mars on Asc. I looked at the chart for 1987 when I think the big abuse happened from my father - Mars on IC. I also looked at age 1 because I think that is when it really started.. I have no proof, just my gut feeling. Uranus on DC, Saturn on MC, Juno and NN on Asc.

I think precessed SRs are more accurate. I finally have my verdict.

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Looked at 1999, which was one of the best years for me. I was popular which was weird because I'm not a social person, but I enjoyed myself a lot that year, also my family started making quite a bit of money.

Moon conj MC double whammy. Venus on IC.

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posted January 15, 2019 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm still confused how to do a precessed chart. Can someone explain again?

I know to do one with Sidereal (Fagan/Bradley) but what does it mean do another Tropical chart with the new date/time?

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posted January 15, 2019 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You run a SR as you'd normally do. But instead of using the tropical chart you click the sidereal, Fagan/Bradley.

In the sidereal chart you'll see the date, time and location in red on the upper left as in any other chart.

You take this information and create a regular birth chart, for example June 1 2019, New York and run this in the tropical system as you would do with any other natal chart. That's it.

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posted January 22, 2019 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HelixID:
You run a SR as you'd normally do. But instead of using the tropical chart you click the sidereal, Fagan/Bradley.

In the sidereal chart you'll see the date, time and location in red on the upper left as in any other chart.

You take this information and create a regular birth chart, for example June 1 2019, New York and run this in the tropical system as you would do with any other natal chart. That's it.


I read on an astrologer's blog that doing precessed chart doesn't make much sense... I'm confused.

Btw, is it possible for events shown in our upcoming SR to happen a few months BEFORE the date? E.g. if my SR shows that I will meet a new love interest, will I meet him a few months before my SR or after I enter my SR?

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posted June 27, 2021 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where exactly do you get the sidereal, Fagan/Bradley?

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posted June 27, 2021 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, what I am not quite getting - the rulership is always defined by the natal chart? Or it depends on whether you are looking at a solar return chart alone or together with the natal?

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posted July 06, 2021 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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If it's up to three months before your next solar return, it'll be on your next solar return, otherwise it will be on your current solar return. You can also check your monthly lunar returns for hints.

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I read on an astrologer's blog that doing precessed chart doesn't make much sense... I'm confused.

Btw, is it possible for events shown in our upcoming SR to happen a few months BEFORE the date? E.g. if my SR shows that I will meet a new love interest, will I meet him a few months before my SR or after I enter my SR?


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If it's up to three months before your next solar return, it'll be on your next solar return, otherwise it will be on your current solar return. You can also check your monthly lunar returns for hints.

Thanks! I’m checking my boyfriend’s SR chart when we met. He had SR Venus-NN conjunct natal Venus-Saturn, square natal Juno. SR Saturn also trine Venus-Saturn.

His LR Jupiter conjunct natal Juno, square Venus-Saturn. LR Venus conjunct natal Vertex.

I had SR Venus conjunct natal ASC and a DW SR Jupiter opposite natal Mercury and SR Mercury conjunct natal Jupiter (Mercury is my ASC ruler).

My LR Venus conjunct Sun and again there’s a Mercury-Jupiter DW.

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