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ShyVirgo1979
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posted March 31, 2012 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone give me some basic pointers on how to read a solar return chart? Or even links to other sites id b fine with that. And I can't do advanced stuff so gotta keep it simple lol I'm just looking for general knowledge and interesting things about it. Thank u to anyone who wishes to comment.

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posted March 31, 2012 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I know is it gives you a glimpse on to what type of year it will be for you.

Looking in hindsight, it has proven to be true. A solar return from a few years ago was a very nasty, horrible, and very depressing time of my life. Further looking at the aspects explained where the difficulties came from. Now, I am quite excited for this upcoming solar return, and it should prove to be a very nice year for a change, which I haven't had for a while. Never had a grand trine in a solar return before. Nothing is perfect though and I (again) have a lot of bad neptune aspects. Oh well. I've had that happen so many times that it's nothing new.

What I would suggest is reflect back in hindsight on your older solar returns, and derive patterns through that since you have already experienced them.

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posted March 31, 2012 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've reflected on past solar returns. The years when I had the biggest changes, when something should have shown. It did not. Even in comparison to natal.

I've found this blog post on the matter, and this astrologer talks about precessed solar returns. I haven't tried them yet but it's something different

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posted March 31, 2012 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ShyVirgo1979     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok thank u. Anyone else? Maybe even some good books I can read?

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posted April 01, 2012 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found this to be very useful:

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STEPS ON HOW TO INTERPRET A SOLAR RETURN CHART,
by Starlink

A Solar Return chart is a chart made for only one year in the life. It is a very personal way to see how transits will relate to your natal chart and especially the personal planets give an important insight in how they work out this year.

Once you understand the basics of your birth chart interpretation, you can use the same technique on your Solar Return chart. The Solar Return chart is a chart drawn up for the exact time when your Sun makes its yearly return to the position it was on at your birth. So you have a different Solar Return chart every year, but the Sun is always at the same sign and degree. Solar Return charts can be created at http://www.astro.com/ under "Free Horoscopes" "Extended Chart Selection". (excerpt from Wilscontc)


A Solar Return chart should always be looked at in connection with your natal chart , at least according to my own experiences, because we want to see what our natal planets are doing this year and looking at their positions in the SR chart is one way doing that. Putting them on a 2-wheel chart is a good way of viewing them. Put the natal chart in the inner wheel. Use different colours (for the planets, highlight them by hand if you print it out) for both charts. Personally I draw a Solar Return chart, then also a Natal chart with the SR positions around the wheel. That way you can also keep an eye on the natal chart positions of planets.

Note:You can also view the Solar Return as a chart on its own, but it wont tell you as much as when you compare with the natal chart.

It is not easy to interprete a Solar Return chart because very often what we see in there, reflects the hopes and wishes of the individual and not necessary what will happen to him/her. That is also why we have to look at the birth potential. If the Solar Return shows a fantastic career move, but in the natal chart it is clearly seen that any career attempt is going to be non existent (when the woman is a mother rather than a career type) or when there is no fire present, nor any ambition to be seen (Cardinal mode), then we have to be careful. It could be a wish, not a reality.


We start by only looking at the Solar Return chart.

Begin by looking at the overview of the SR chart, just like you would do it for a natal chart.
If you have most planets in your natal chart above the horizon, but now all of a sudden most appear below the horizon in the SR chart, than this could show a year where you will tend to keep more to yourself, turn inwards and become more subjective.
When it is the opposite, then you could probably try to become more social or circumstances will force you to be more “public” this year.

When most planets fall on the Asc. side (east) of the SR chart, you might become more driven and action orientated. You will have more opportunities to do what you like without having to take too much into consideration what others might think or expect from you, which would not be so much the case when most planets would fall on the Desc. side (west).

Which quadrant is most occupied in the Solar Return:
1-4 shows personal needs
5-8 shows much involvement with other people
9-12 could show a transpersonal time in your life, much thinking about your life, your wishes and hopes for the future and more time spend in private, necessary to think things over.

Next, where are most planets situated looking at the houses of the Solar Return chart?

Most planets in angular houses (1-4-7-10), comparible with the Cardinal quality/signs. Angular houses are always very strong and much action could take place, new projects and /or relationships could be started, in any case, mostly anything new undertaken.

Most planets in succedent houses (2-5-8-11) are comparable with the fixed quality (signs)and could show that what you have started at the beginning of the SR year, could be finished (“fixed”) or needs to be finished . Depending on the aspects, opportunities for growth are possible.

Most planets in cadent houses? (3-6-9-12), comparable with the Mutable quality/signs. Therefore it could be a year of change and mental activity. Adaptability is necessary and one could tend to start several things at the same time, unable to really concentrate on one thing at a time.

NOTE: Rising planets, especially natal planets which are in the rising side of the SR chart, and especially the one’s in the 1st house and close to the SR Asc. have a lot of power in this year.

It has also been seen, that natal planets positions in the Solar Return chart can have more impact in this year than Solar Return planets in the SR chart. Always look at both.

Lastly look at the Angles of your Solar Return chart.

Ascendant shows what you want, how you will express your personality.
MC Show what you will aim for and the IC how things could end.

See if they are Fixed,(wanting to stay the same) Cardinal( wanting to advance), or Mutable (wanting to change certain situations).


Examples:

Cardinal Asc. and IC/MC Fixed: you could start something and end the year by completing what you wanted to do. The Cardinal energy could bring on an exciting and busy time, trying to get something done and the Fixed quality will help you to make it a finished (fixed) product or plan.
Fixed Asc. and Mutable IC/MC? Your conservative ideas or situations (fixed) might have to be changed or will undergo change (Mutability always shows changes with a great deal of activity indicated.
Mutable Asc. and Fixed IC/MC? Things you have not finished yet will need to be concluded . (mutable people have trouble to finish something they started). Try to accomplish something you started a while ago (if you think it is important of course) but listen to your own intuition, rather than to what others tell you.
Fixed Asc. and Cardinal IC/MC: You could expand or update established, (maybe oldfashioned) ideas and . Maybe now is the time to do what you actually wanted to do for a long time and take action (Cardinal attitude)

Intercepted signs and planets are also important to look at, because those houses will be so much bigger. Intercepted planets could have trouble to express their energy at the beginning of the year but when by progression of the angles, they move out of those interceptions they could express their energy later on in the year.

Now begin by comparing SR chart and natal chart.


Begin by looking at the SR Ascendant.

If the SR Ascendant is the same as your natal Asc. then this year could be a very important year with great integration from your part. It does not necessarily have to be an easy year however. The outer planets Uranus, Neptune and Pluto will easily show you if they will cause difficulties or chances.

Should the Natal Descendant become the SR Ascendant, then a difficult year could be awaiting you, but not necessarily a bad year. You might be at the “mercy” of others this year (the East side is now seen on the Asc.,( West side) and East side is always associated with helping others, being of service to others or being dependent on others). Jupiter or Venus rising might help to diminish the problems a bit .

This position could also indicate health problems during the year. Look at the SR 6th house to determine that. Same problems can arise when SR Moon opposes the Sun.
When a marriage should take place in this year, then very often you also will see that the natal Descendant appears on the Solar Return Asc. In my opinion this cannot really show a “difficult” year. That’s why I always look at other transits to the natal chart AND progressed planets to the natal chart, to determine whether this will indeed be a difficult year or not.


The sign on the Asc. will colour your natal Ascendant sign. So if natal Asc. is Capricorn but Solar Asc. is Saggittarius, you might become a bit more adventurous this year, maybe get more interested in other cultures, travel or starting a new study.

As written above, the SR Ascendant ruler and any planets in the 1st SR house are very important.

Look into which house the SR Ascendant falls in your natal chart.
If it falls within 5° of the next house cusp then take the next house.
That house will usually get a lot of focus in the year to come, as well as the house where the Sun is in the SR chart. The Sun never changes sign, but does change house. Also look at both natal and SR rulers of that house.

NB: Should your SR. Asc. be ruled by a transpersonal planet (Uranus, Neptune or Pluto), then also look at this one. The traditionalists amongst us can look at Saturn, Jupiter and Mars or both modern and traditional to get an allround picture

The house in which the Sun falls in the SR chart is the birthday month's forecast and influence, and each house the Sun travels through after that show the following month, since the Sun transits at the rate of one sign or house per month. Each house the Sun gets into will get some focus that month and the sign and planet ruling the cusp of that house, influences the outlook for that month. Pay attention to the aspects the Sun makes to other planets as it will be possible that it could trigger an event.

Look at all the natal planets and see where they are now placed (which house and sign) in the SR chart. The sign will change their expression a bit or add to the natal expression, the house shows the area where they will “shine” this year.


Where the Solar Return MOON falls in the natal chart indicates an area of restlessness at the beginning of the year. The Progressed Moon has to be taken into account as well to form an idea of how your emotional state could be this year.

Natal Saturn in the SR 12th house can show the need to spend time alone, or even hospitalization. A good placement for solitary work. When it is near the Ascendant, then it should be seen as a 1st house planet and there it will show the necessity to concentrate and focus this year or the need for serious assessment of your life situation.

Natal Jupiter in the SR 12th can show a certain amount of protection during the year. (Same is said of natal Jupiter in the 12th house.) When near the Asc. it will be more noticeable in the 1st house and can show more optimism and the need for freedom and/or expansion.

Indicators of Marriage: 3rd, 7th houses accentuated. Sun or Venus conj.SR Ascendant. 5th and 7th houses both activated and Venus prominent could show a love affair (5) which might end into a commitment (7). Also see if progressed Venus is making an important aspect to the MC or Ascendant of the natal chart the following year(s).

Childbirth or Pregnancy: 4th, 5th and 11th houses activated, North Node in the 5th house, ruler of the 5th in the 1st house. Moon in the 5th could mean thinking about it but not necessarily becoming pregnant.

Career/Job change: 2nd, 6th and 10th houses activated. Uranus or Moon in 6th and 10th especially show change. Also look at Uranus transits over the natal chart’s 10th or 6th house.

Home change: 4th house prominent. Moon or Uranus in 4th. Uranus can also show changes within the home as well, like an addition made or changing the furniture. Mars could show more activity regarding family or home matters.
Saturn in SR 4th shows staying in the same place.

Health:1st, 6th and 12th houses. Sun-Moon oppositions could show health problems. Good aspects between them show good health.

Surgery : 8th and Mars in the 8th or on the Asc. or the Moon in the 8th, challenged. (also for dental surgery and caesarian section delivery) but also look at the transiting or progressed Mars aspecting the Ascendant.

Inheritance: strong 2nd/8th activity.

Divorce: 3rd (dissolution of contract), 7th (break with partner), 8th (financial settlements) and the 9th (legal activities). Pluto, Uranus and Mars angular (because they will conjunct, square or oppose the 7th house.

ASPECTS

Solar Return planets are only to be considered active when they aspect a natal planet!
Any planet within 3° of a cusp, activates that house.
Any planet on an angle or within 5° before the angle should get extra attention, as well as the house this planet rules.
Any Solar Return planet which conjuncts the same natal planet, like SR Venus conjunct natal Venus (within 3° to 4°) is particularly significant and the SR houses ruled by them also need special attention.

SR planets forming a T-square or Grand Square with a natal opposition or T-square or a YOD with a natal quincunx can show great activity in the natal houses.
A Solar Return chart can be progressed by moving the housecusps. This is done with the moving of the MC. The MC moves 1° every 4 days which comes then to 7.5° per month etc. When you have found the new position of the MC, then look in your table of houses to find the corresponding Ascendant and other housecusps.
So in this case it is not the planets which move, but the angles which move towards the planets! When any planet gets to less than 5° distance from a SR planet, that could then show that something might happen in relation to that planet and the house it rules.


General Notes:

Do keep all aspects between natal and Solar Return planets within 5° orb.

Below you find some links, also explaining the Solar Return by Celeste Teal and Mary Shea:
www.llewellynjournal.com/article/391

Frequently asked questions about Solar Returns, also which location you should use to draw the SR chart, your present location (where you spend most of your time during the year), your place of birth or the place you are at the time of your birthday (on vacation in another country for instance) are explained here:


Solar returns http://cafeastrology.com/interpretingsolarreturns.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12694 http://wiki.astro.com/astrowiki/en/Solar_Return_Chart http://www.maryshea.com/sr.html http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/19.1Birthdays.htm
http://www.typhonvision.com/art-solarreturn.htm


Revised by Starlink, March 30, 2010



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posted April 01, 2012 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, there are so many patterns in the SR chart I haven't had time to really look at 'em all.

Here are a few quickie observations:

Based on house positions, the Sun & the Moon appears to travel in opposite directions - The Sun goes counter clockwise, the Moon clockwise.

Venus has eight sign positions. Every eight years Venus will repeat those positions in sequential order.

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posted July 18, 2012 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to my sr my life will suck big time...
But because I TRYto be optimist I found a grand trine there in air signs-saturn in libra -4 house, moon in gemini in 11 and neptune in pisces/aqua cusp(1*orb)in 8.
Any ideas how will it play out?
And please,please anyone on venus in 12(1*orb cusp with 1 house) and NN in 5.....
Freaking out...

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posted July 18, 2012 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So browsing the net I read that my "grand trine"is not a grand trine- it only looks like it. Because on planet is out of the element in my case neptune 1*orb out of aquarius.
So I guess my life will only be full of squares and lack of stelliums, at least for next year...
Anyhow- would anyone care to comment on venus square mars, sr venus conjunction sr ascendant,sr venus conjunction natal saturn, sr saturn exact conjunction natal asc.
In addition sr NN(in 5) conjunct 4* natal NN(in my 1 house)
Would appreciate your input guys and hoping for sth better then I came up with. Thank you!!

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posted July 18, 2012 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CAY_512     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is all really good information. I agree with everyone saying to read your old ones. When I have gone back and read my past solar return charts they make so much sense. My birthday is coming up and I have been trying to analyze mine. Both Saturn & Mars conjunt the rising sign in my new solar return chart. That makes me nervous but Ill know for sure what it means when the year is over

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posted July 18, 2012 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I admire your willingness to wait it out
I don't know if I can take another year of having "hidden"feelings for an unavailable man so I'm seriously considering booking a hotel in DC around my birthday....
Good luck

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posted July 18, 2012 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It just hit me... About going west -so lovely miss venus would gently slide from 12 house to the 1... Hoping that would do the trick
Anyone with experiences of "moving around" to change the "fate"?

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posted July 18, 2012 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can definitely move to change the house positions and possibly the Moon a few degrees too, depending on where you go.

Personally, I've started using precessed charts and think they may be more accurate. Ask me next year. If you want to know how to do a precessed chart and don't have Solar Fire (astro program) do the following:

Go to astro.com and choose your birth info along with SR chart *but* convert it to Fagan/Bradley and *then* load it. Take the date and time (should still be the same location where you will be) and make up a new tropical chart - do not use Fagan/Bradley when you make up this new chart - make sure you use tropical. That is your precessed SR chart

If you're curious, you can compare the two at the end of the year. Or you can make up a precessed chart for the year(s) past to compare and see which is more accurate and telling of your year.

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posted July 18, 2012 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info. Will try
If I move my moon will move from 2 to 3 house. But on the cusp...what worries me though is mars in 4, neptune in 8...
Question- consider me new to the subject- is there a way of looking back to solar returns. This is my first one...
Was wondering what it could look like when I decided to move thousands of miles from my birth place and start new life...

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posted July 18, 2012 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I've reflected on past solar returns. The years when I had the biggest changes, when something should have shown. It did not. Even in comparison to natal.

I've found this blog post on the matter, and this astrologer talks about precessed solar returns. I haven't tried them yet but it's something different


I think I'm sold!
This is my SR chart for last year - depression, on meds, suicide attempt and all. Aspects are the same as tropical but house positions speak VOLUMES. In tropical the stellium was in 5H..

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posted July 18, 2012 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lots of saturn in there. And I thought squares suck....
Sorry to hear you had such a difficult time then. Maybe next one will be better.
Any idea how to interpret double whammy sr saturn conjunction ascendant? When I look only @ sr chart the only saturn aspect is moon trine and venus square.
Which is more important regarding aspects- only sr or comparison with natal?

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posted July 18, 2012 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hera,

Is that your precessed chart? Yep that would make more sense. Sorry to hear about your year. My last two were like yours and I know what a massive struggle that is ( to put it lightly). Hope you're feeling better these days

Virgo girl, the SR chart is the energy of the year and how it reflects in your natals will give you an idea of where and how that energy is likely to manifest.

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posted July 18, 2012 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@sorcha.
Thanks. So in that case I have dw saturn exact conjunction ascendant ( sr 4 and natal 9)-sr MC conjunction natal jupiter in natal 6. Sr Juno in scorpio(in 5)conjunction to natal NN (1house)@ 4 degrees
Sr juno exact conjunction with sr NN?
Wow...

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posted July 18, 2012 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info. Will try
If I move my moon will move from 2 to 3 house. But on the cusp...what worries me though is mars in 4, neptune in 8...
Question- consider me new to the subject- is there a way of looking back to solar returns. This is my first one...
Was wondering what it could look like when I decided to move thousands of miles from my birth place and start new life...

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posted July 18, 2012 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the info. Will try
If I move my moon will move from 2 to 3 house. But on the cusp...what worries me though is mars in 4, neptune in 8...
Question- consider me new to the subject- is there a way of looking back to solar returns. This is my first one...
Was wondering what it could look like when I decided to move thousands of miles from my birth place and start new life...

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posted July 18, 2012 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so sorry for the triple reply...
Can't stop looking for things- another question to those familiar with juno,eros- someone I'm "stuck"on- have in their sr juno exact conjunction my sr juno,eros and NN. Their natal moon conjuncts my sr eros, juno and NN ( the orb is 4-5 degrees orb). his sr psyche conjuncts my natal sun.
My sr juno, eros and nn are in 5 house
Thanks a lot for helping me get it right...

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posted July 18, 2012 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
virgo girl,

I would start with the basics. I would not be looking at Juno if you're just starting out. Besides which, there is a lot of disagreement about what Juno even signifies, from all that I've read (marriage, ideal partner, commitment, sexuality, etc.)

Start here: http://www.cafeastrology.com/interpretingsolarreturns.html

And see how it goes just interpreting the basics. I think you'll end up getting more confused if you're starting with Juno. Just my two cents

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posted July 18, 2012 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the 2 cents
I researched asteroid aspects a little before mostly in synastry and composite. But sr is a whole new ball game.
Cafeastrology seems to have majority of "big" players aspects and I also found other very interesting sites.
I love digging things up- must be my scorpio pluto in 12 lol thanks for putting up with it...

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Do you find it true- the pregnancy thing-4,5,11 houses activated. NN in 5th...If activated means stelliums I'm safe but if it means having planets there...because I have 4 and 11 with two in each plus NN in 5. Lilith (ruler of my 5) is in 11 not in 1 house.
Just considering options here...someone wrote sr is about what we want to manifest not about what will happen-what are your thoughts...

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Hera,

Is that your precessed chart? Yep that would make more sense. Sorry to hear about your year. My last two were like yours and I know what a massive struggle that is ( to put it lightly). Hope you're feeling better these days


Yes, it is my precessed chart. First time I ever looked at those but as I said I am a believer now.. My tropical chart didn't speak as clearly as this one - this just puts the madness where it belongs.
Oh yeah, feeling MUCH, much better now, I think depression is gone for good Sorry to hear you also had a bad time and hope you're better too.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sorcha:
You can definitely move to change the house positions and possibly the Moon a few degrees too, depending on where you go.

Personally, I've started using precessed charts and think they may be more accurate. Ask me next year. If you want to know how to do a precessed chart and don't have Solar Fire (astro program) do the following:

Go to astro.com and choose your birth info along with SR chart *but* convert it to Fagan/Bradley and *then* load it. Take the date and time (should still be the same location where you will be) and make up a new tropical chart - do not use Fagan/Bradley when you make up this new chart - make sure you use tropical. That is your precessed SR chart

If you're curious, you can compare the two at the end of the year. Or you can make up a precessed chart for the year(s) past to compare and see which is more accurate and telling of your year.



@sorcha- so I have a problem finding Fagan/Bradley thing in astro. Any more advices how to change it?
I decided to stay put...figured- not much would chane anyway so why not just take it as it comes. After all life is about getting to the next level of understanding, right?...


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