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mishimishi
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posted April 02, 2012 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mishimishi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my ascendant is at 29.5 deg Scorpio, so my first house is mostly in Sadge so I think of myself as Sadge ascendant. I have also noticed that many people I know whose first house spills onto a second sign also seem to have a lot of the second sign in them.

I know that there are different ways of drawing the houses, but what do you think of this theory?

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Aquacheeka
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posted April 02, 2012 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mishimishi:
my ascendant is at 29.5 deg Scorpio, so my first house is mostly in Sadge so I think of myself as Sadge ascendant. I have also noticed that many people I know whose first house spills onto a second sign also seem to have a lot of the second sign in them.

I know that there are different ways of drawing the houses, but what do you think of this theory?


Personally, I think of my Mercury as half-Aquarius, half-Pisces, since it's on the 29th degree of Aqua.

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posted April 02, 2012 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although, having said that, the description of Mercury in Aqua on cafeastrology.com describes me to a T. I'm no intellectual pacifist, I'm really more arrogant and dogmatic about my opinions, lol. It's the only planet I've got on that degree and I DO identify more with Aqua... but I'm not at 29.5, that one is REALLY close.

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sand
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posted April 02, 2012 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scorpio asc with just more sadge in h1.

you wud have different chart rulers too if you go with sag.

also u wud have been progressed sag asc early on..

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posted April 02, 2012 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mishimishi:
my ascendant is at 29.5 deg Scorpio, so my first house is mostly in Sadge so I think of myself as Sadge ascendant. I have also noticed that many people I know whose first house spills onto a second sign also seem to have a lot of the second sign in them.

I know that there are different ways of drawing the houses, but what do you think of this theory?


Very interesting. I love theories i can't comment as I don't have it but I am interested in what others have to say.

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posted April 02, 2012 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to this, your ascendant is even more Scorpionic than usual because it needs to accomplish the goals of the sign, it feels urgency in that degree: http://www.cafeastrology.com/criticaldegrees.html


I have both my sun sign (21 degrees is a critical degree for fixed signs) and my Mercury in a critical degree. I don't think I could be more Aquarian if I put actual effort into it Oh well. lol. I actually wouldn't mind a Piscean Mercury. Then maybe I wouldn't be so contrary and provocative all the time. I imagine it gets on people's nerves.

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posted April 02, 2012 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i dunno but it is not a planet not sure if you can apply critical degrees to them but if you feel it i guess that is what is important..

"There are a couple of factors that influence how strong or weak a force in the chart the ascendant may be.[6] Firstly, it is generally believed that the closer towards the beginning of the sign the ascendant falls, the stronger it will be. This is because most of the first house will fall into that sign. If the ascendant falls late in a sign, most of the first house will fall into the following sign, and thus weaken the effect of the ascendant's power." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendant

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posted April 02, 2012 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is another one on it: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006013.html


The comment from user Tim suggests that the energy of that sign comes easily but you may misdirect that energy. Put in conjunction with cafeastrology's interpretation and the planet or position it is (ascendant) it sounds as though you will be able to access your Scorpionic appeal and make a memorable, intense and perhaps somewhat intimidating impression on others, true to Scorpio rising form, but you may grapple with "overdoing" in terms of how you come across to people/strangers and be indecisive about HOW to project yourself. So let's say Scorpio rising can seem intimidating, sexy, quiet, etc. Well, that will be amplified with you, but you will also struggle with the timing of your projection (come on too strong or not strong enough), as the indecisiveness of the anaretic degree would suggest.

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posted April 02, 2012 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dunno if that makes any sense but that's my interpretation.

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posted April 02, 2012 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
i dunno but it is not a planet not sure if you can apply critical degrees to them but if you feel it i guess that is what is important..

"There are a couple of factors that influence how strong or weak a force in the chart the ascendant may be.[6] Firstly, it is generally believed that the closer towards the beginning of the sign the ascendant falls, the stronger it will be. This is because most of the first house will fall into that sign. If the ascendant falls late in a sign, most of the first house will fall into the following sign, and thus weaken the effect of the ascendant's power." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendant



That is extremely helpful, haha.

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posted April 02, 2012 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mishimishi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
Here is another one on it: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006013.html


The comment from user Tim suggests that the energy of that sign comes easily but you may misdirect that energy. Put in conjunction with cafeastrology's interpretation and the planet or position it is (ascendant) it sounds as though you will be able to access your Scorpionic appeal and make a memorable, intense and perhaps somewhat intimidating impression on others, true to Scorpio rising form, but you may grapple with "overdoing" in terms of how you come across to people/strangers and be indecisive about HOW to project yourself. So let's say Scorpio rising can seem intimidating, sexy, quiet, etc. Well, that will be amplified with you, but you will also struggle with the timing of your projection (come on too strong or not strong enough), as the indecisiveness of the anaretic degree would suggest.


sorry, but are you referring to me or people in general? perhaps I do give off this Scorpio intensity but am not aware of it, as I have Jupiter at conjunct my ascendant as well, and really think and act like a clued out Sadge

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posted April 02, 2012 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whoops i see that is what cafeastro was alredy saying..

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posted April 02, 2012 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The fact that you have Jupiter conjunct your ASC explains why you feel like a Sag rising, not because your first house is all Sag. Most of my first house is Cancer even though my ASC is at 27 Gem, and I am definitely a Gem Rising.

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posted April 02, 2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mishimishi:
sorry, but are you referring to me or people in general? perhaps I do give off this Scorpio intensity but am not aware of it, as I have Jupiter at conjunct my ascendant as well, and really think and act like a clued out Sadge

well there u go. ur a scorp riser with jupiter conj asc.

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posted April 02, 2012 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mishimishi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but my mother and sister have their ascendants at about 14 deg cancer, and although they have different sun signs, boy do they have a lot of Leo in them. and neither has any other planets in Leo.

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posted April 02, 2012 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mishimishi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
well there u go. ur a scorp riser with jupiter conj asc.

not at all. I am really, really quite the Sadge. Very tall, athletic, big mouth, and no Scorpio tendencies to be sexy or intense.

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posted April 02, 2012 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Scorp asc, 28 deg and I am as Scorpio rising as you get...

However, I have 3 t fixed t squares that closely touch my asc as well, thus, 4 personal planets and Uranus closely aspecting my asc, so that probably has something to do with it.

I dont feel Saggie at all. Once an astrologer drew up my chart with a Saggie asc, not me at all!

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posted April 02, 2012 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I follow Gary Goldschneider's system of astrology which has 48 signs (five types of each sign.)

In this system the Scorpio-Sag cusp, lasting several degrees, has its own energy. My daughter is born on this cusp (Nov 20.) It's kind of like a high-voltage Scorpio, not as broody and more energetic.

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posted April 02, 2012 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mishimishi:
my ascendant is at 29.5 deg Scorpio, so my first house is mostly in Sadge so I think of myself as Sadge ascendant. I have also noticed that many people I know whose first house spills onto a second sign also seem to have a lot of the second sign in them.

I know that there are different ways of drawing the houses, but what do you think of this theory?



makes sense.

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posted April 02, 2012 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mishimishi:
but my mother and sister have their ascendants at about 14 deg cancer, and although they have different sun signs, boy do they have a lot of Leo in them. and neither has any other planets in Leo.

How is their 5th houses? What aspects do their Suns make?

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posted April 02, 2012 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mishimishi:
but my mother and sister have their ascendants at about 14 deg cancer, and although they have different sun signs, boy do they have a lot of Leo in them. and neither has any other planets in Leo.

my mom is the same cancer ac/ no leo and i have the same reaction as you. i guess that is cancer ac.

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posted April 02, 2012 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're the ascendant you were born with...doesnt matter if its 29 degrees unless of course theres an error with birthtime. One of the reasons you might feel one sign more than the other is because it progressed in the early first years of your life into the next sign. Look up Ascendant progressions.

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posted April 02, 2012 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, it sounds like you described your physical features that correspond to Jupiter rising. I know two people that have Jupiter on their ASC and they are both very tall, and one is very athletic. That's a very strong placement for any planet, or even asteroid.

It is possible that you relate a lot to your progressed ASC, but I personally do not believe it has much to do with Saggi taking up most of your 1st house.

I have examples of people at late ASC degrees that do not take on traits from the following signs over their rising. Perhaps your mom and sister have strong 5th house placements, or the ruler of their ASC is strongly aspecting their sun. Maybe fire moons?

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posted April 03, 2012 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It just means your asc's in a critical degree. My moon's in one too.

Are you sure you have the exact time of birth?

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posted April 03, 2012 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello mishimishi! Welcome to LL

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