posted April 07, 2012 08:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
To the OP, this site posts accurate descriptions, Dark Star Astrology. You might not have read it so I will quote (!)

I bolded what I had to deal with. Altho the bit about 'come back stronger' with my guy, the fear of loss didn't go away. So the 'power' that he holds is highly suspect. I'm so happy I have the trine, I played him at his own game and WON, mwahahaha. Just don't act like you feel a certain way when you don't. That is my best advice. My guy liked to cut to the quick, which is something I did appreciate about him.

I also did more research & found people writing about their experiences of Sun sq Pluto people being bullies. So be a strong woman. It's because they feel weak & want to dominate. Tho if they're feeling good about their accomplishments it shouldn't be much of an issue. It's when they're not getting what they want that it comes out. Like I said, I broke it off for a reason.

I should have broken it off right when he started w.the obsessive calling & when I didn't return his calls for 3 days showed up at my door & asked me 4 times throughout the convo, 'where have you been, i've been calling i thought maybe you were on vacation'

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posted April 07, 2012 08:51 AM            

I have to say, that I too want 'some sort of answer' in such scenarios. I've been in situations where people like the attention, find it flattering...etc, and I can tell they do. So they kind of play this 'limbo' game, which isn't ever really a positive thing. Some people enjoy feeling wanted, and the idea of someone [of such intensity] being attracted to them, is nice--I've heard and seen it directly before. I am an intense person, but I am extremely cautious about who I give that attention to...I also have Pluto in the first, with the mars/pluto conjunction. So if I want you, you will know. If I don't, you will know.

I say all of that to say, when you say "no, I don't want this, that or you" in uncertain terms, lol--done deal. I finalize, stamp it and keep pushing.

posted April 07, 2012 08:59 AM            

For now I think you shouldn't worry too much about it... you're only inviting negative energy and they would only probably manifest. And besides, there are other aspects that could override that Sun sq Pluto energy. Just continue and become a good friend for him in the meantime.

posted April 07, 2012 01:34 PM            

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.... woe betide anyone who changes the order of their alphabetically arranged CD collection.

They have a real fear of death, but in their panic they are often self sabotaging and create the very scenario they fear the most. They are are most afraid of their demonic, unacceptable, beastly thoughts, which can translate as feeling that something about them is ugly, and that they are deformed in someway. They might hide behind a mask, this could be simply very plain or dark clothes...

At some point they may indeed have to face some sort of “death”. Having survived this they become indestructible and exude the awesome aura of a Phoenix that has been through the flames and come out 10 times stronger.

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Wow! YES YES YES, i think my aqua sun and other placements makes me less of a tyranical control freak (or so i like to think...). That said, being a virgo moon please don't unorganized my cds or worse leave them lying around not in cases!! On the other hand if you do, i'll just enjoy re-organizing them lol I've definitely been through the death stage and am now at the phoenix stage. I am both fascinated and revolted by death, and although i think fashion doesn't really have a whole lot to do with it...i do wear an awful lot of black...

posted April 07, 2012 01:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Lava Flower:
He can be really intense and he goes after what he want's. I was so puzzled reading descriptions of Aquarians and how detached they are, he is nothing like that.

As far as rejection goes, if you are not interested in him, you should let him know, and let him down gently. I can only imagine how intensely they feel. He doesn't trust or let people in easily. And I know he has been through a lot that he doesn't readily share.

Do be honest. Don't play games.

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posted April 07, 2012 07:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Lava Flower:
Honestly, I think I may have paid a visit to my lover if they didn't return my calls for 3 days lol Though I wouldn't pressure them into telling me where they have been, I would certainly be curious.. I have no sun aspect to Pluto

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posted April 08, 2012 04:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Lava Flower:
Honestly, I think I may have paid a visit to my lover if they didn't return my calls for 3 days lol Though I wouldn't pressure them into telling me where they have been, I would certainly be curious.. I have no sun aspect to Pluto

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posted April 08, 2012 06:26 AM            

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Oh at that point we were not *lovers*. He gave me a lift home when my car was in the shop one day so that's how he knew where I lived; I had 'chatted' to him like an acquaintance for the past year every so often because he would visit the place where I worked, but I didn't give him my # then, just kept it really impersonal & light, distant. We were just barely getting to know each other, gave him my phone # the wk before & we had chatted maybe 10 or 15 minutes on the phone for a few days after that. Gah lol. I should have stopped talking to him then. Now I know for next time when someone pulls that (!)

And also he got really huffy and upset when we didn't talk every day? Do you think you own me? He'd be jealous & was upset when I wasn't jealous of him. Try to tell me what to wear. All that before we had even had sex. Dumppppp. I have Sun sq Uranus, *no one* is going to dictate my life to me. I dropped him after I threw his games back in his face, as if I couldn't see through him lol. He did think he was pretty clever tho.

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I have Aqua Sun, Aqua Mars, Aqua Mercury sq Uranus in Scorpio. Aqua Sun, Mars, Mercury trine Pluto in Libra house 8.

posted April 08, 2012 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
I think the important thing is to be completely honest and 'direct.' I am the type of person who can 'read in between the lines,' but I do [b]not like having to rely too much on 'intuitive' communication in situations like this. In my mind, there is too much space for misinterpretation. I like everyone to state their case in a way that is not passive aggressive, that way we can all be accountable for 'our feelings, perceptions, thoughts, words, actions' and so on.

I have to say, that I too want 'some sort of answer' in such scenarios. I've been in situations where people like the attention, find it flattering...etc, and I can tell they do. So they kind of play this 'limbo' game, which isn't ever really a positive thing. Some people enjoy feeling wanted, and the idea of someone [of such intensity] being attracted to them, is nice--I've heard and seen it directly before. I am an intense person, but I am extremely cautious about who I give that attention to...I also have Pluto in the first, with the mars/pluto conjunction. So if I want you, you will know. If I don't, you will know.

I say all of that to say, when you say "no, I don't want this, that or you" in uncertain terms, lol--done deal. I finalize, stamp it and keep pushing.

Be SURE of what you want, state what you do and do not want, and you will probably get exactly what you ask for. 'Stalking' is definitely overstated, but that may be because I feel it is beneath me, lol (sarcasm...um...sort of). :-p[/B]

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posted April 09, 2012 03:00 AM            

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Im seeing a guy right now that has sun trine pluto 0* and he is obsessive, jealous and a bit stalkerish. Yes...he is doing the obssesive calling/emailing/texting thing. BUT he has a 1* mars pluto opposition with his moon in a t square to both so thats pretty intense, the trine to his sun may just be giving it more uumph.

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posted April 09, 2012 11:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Planet Queen:
I've got a fixed square between Sun and Pluto - Leo & Scorpio. Its hard because I want to be in control but I can never really grasp what I really want control of? Very conflicting...

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Planet Queen, I have the same configuration! It helps to know that I can't really control anyone but myself...and even then, there are plenty of things about myself I can't control. So, knowing when to let go and when to take control is the key, I think.

But, yes, Sun square Pluto people are often strong personalities, especially if the Sun sign is in an already domineering sign like Leo. At an unevolved level, I think we project ourselves very aggressively and abrasively and then become frustrated when we alienate others with our behavior. So, it's an endless cycle until we really learn self-awareness. The Sun is the ego so the ego is often frustrated and taken to extremities with this placement. That's where the control freak behavior can come from and/or the obsession over rejection and what others think.

However, there is an enormous amount of strength that comes with this placement when it's used properly. But, like that article says, we are dealing with Plutonian themes here so a toxic part of the identity has to metaphorically die so the better, stronger, and more transcendent Self can take over.