posted April 07, 2012 05:15 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
okay, i was thinking either libra or pisces moon, so since the airiness i see is in her moon, i think she looks like she has cap asc in these pictures you posted, and the whole looking like you're not fazed by anything is a cap asc thing. I wouldn't say it really is an aqua rising thing...that's more just mad scientist look in the eyes...while it also looks like they're not there in the moment...like they're remembering some distant memory...lol

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posted April 07, 2012 10:38 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Huh, I suppose peepz picked up on the Libra Moon singleton by guessing Air?

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posted April 07, 2012 10:58 PM            

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Originally posted by inthemisosoup:
I don't know my grandmother's birth time, either, as she is also an immigrant born in a poor village in Italy. She has no idea when she was born. Regarding your grandmother, I thought Aqua because she comes across a little aloof and distant in the pictures, characterstic of Aqua obviously, and I'm an Aqua rising myself and often come off the same way. She also has the head shape of many Aqua risings, rectangular or square shaped. I could see Cap, too, as I wanted to say I sensed something earthy in her appearance...although now that I see the stellium in virgo I am not sure.

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Capricorn AC was always my gut guess. She is very dignified and comes across as stern and business-oriented; her exterior is difficult to puncture. She has been described to me (by friends) as very intimidating and elitist. Things like "class" and "social status" are very important to her, but I always chalked that up to being the result of a wealthy upbringing. It all seems to fit Capricorn, though. Plus, there's the fact that she never smiles in pictures. I once asked her why, and she replied that she feels ridiculous smiling -- I tend to think it's because she always wants to be taken seriously. She self-admittedly would rather others think of her as a "dictator" than a "nice person". In truth, she is pretty bossy. She has always struck me as having a very "bony" appearance, which also leads back to Capricorn. As I mentioned before, she has had a plethora of tooth/gum operations, and her knees always hurt.

posted April 07, 2012 11:03 PM            

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Originally posted by virgolotus:
Capricorn with Pluto Chiron and Venus in 7th.
Would explain her marriages.

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I've always thought of her as a Capricorn AC. Thank you for your help! Makes perfect sense.

Now, where do we place her AC? Around 12deg Cap, trining her Sun/Mercury/Mars in Virgo and Jupiter/Saturn in Taurus?

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posted April 08, 2012 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by alaz7200:
I'm going to go ahead and confirm it. This description of Capricorn AC posted here is all her:

CAPRICORN rising gives a rounded-ovate head, often with compact faces and smaller features. The ears often stick out and there are little if any lobes. This sometimes creates an elfin or impish look.
The energy is reserved, formal, paternal, yet down-to-earth. Sometimes they seem to play the role of Pan, as dancers and mischief-makers. There can be restraint in the voice, in vivid contrast to the volume and exuberance of Sagittarius. Speech can be commanding when necessary, but normally is subdued (unless enough fire or air factors alter it).
The neck is usually thin and/or long. The build is most often slender, even delicate looking, but there is strength and endurance underneath. They can be short to tall, but the seriousness or personal reserve and desire for respect will give them away. Energy is held in reserve for longer lasting, more important achievements, but some can be lusty and earthier. They enjoy work, even thrive on it, and some can become irritable or depressed without a challenge or without the respect and authority they desire. They are generally either capable or crafty in getting this respect. Their reserve can come across as haughtiness to some, but they are generally polite and understand the need for tradition, rules and chain of command. Their active groundedness is actually in the legs so they are sure-footed and can be very graceful, so some are natural dancers.

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posted April 08, 2012 03:21 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I'm seeing a strong Neptune
aspecting the Ascendant or Pisces Ascendant.

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posted April 08, 2012 03:20 PM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
I agree she could be a pisces AC

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posted April 08, 2012 04:58 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:

no not pisces asc...but some neptune influence. def not pisces asc though. I really think it's cap

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posted April 08, 2012 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:

no not pisces asc...but some neptune influence. def not pisces asc though. I really think it's cap

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posted April 08, 2012 10:33 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I don't know, I still think some Aquarius. Because of the squarish jaw.

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posted April 08, 2012 10:40 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I don't know, I still think some Aquarius. Because of the squarish jaw.

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Looks like everyone concurs there's a definite Capricorn AC feel with an Aquarius (Uranus) and/or Pisces (Neptune) feel...

Is it possible her Capricorn AC would form a Grand Trine to Uranus and Neptune? Opposite Venus on DC? Like so...

This would make sense, as it would also place her MC at 19' Scorpio, where my father's Sun is, as is my Venus=Pluto conjunction. Her first-born son's Sun is at 19deg Taurus, as is my brother's Mars.

As someone mentioned earlier, Chiron/Pluto on the DC would account for her relationships/marriages. Plus, I personally feel that Cancer on the 6th House cusp has a larger proclivity to breast cancer (which she survived) than any other 6th House cusp.

Capricorn AC would account for her gingivitis/dental/knee issues/operations.

What do you guys think?

posted April 08, 2012 10:41 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
I'm seeing a strong Neptune
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posted April 08, 2012 11:51 PM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
Alaz7200 Why do you ask? You already know what kind of AC you want give her..

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I'm trying to narrow it down to the decan, if not the actual degree of rising. There are 30 possible degrees of a Capricorn AC it could fall on.

posted April 09, 2012 11:19 AM            

1. The first of all.. 80 percent of all babys born at night from 00-05 am. There are something in our nature which start that process on night. The most of us people born and die on that time.

2. How many siblings have your grandmother? If she is number two I will think she was quicker out than if she was number 1 and takes more time...

3. I think you already checked this out so the exactly time the degree must be most easier for you to know. You know your grandmother and can also check out through the progression and Solar Arc events what kind of exactly AC degree she have.