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violet7887
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posted April 08, 2012 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure if there has already been a thread about this previously but I'm sure most of you, if not all, have at some point checked out which energy manifests the strongest in your chart. If you havnt, you should.

* You can do so on astro.com by selecting Pullen/Astrolog under Methods and selecting "Simple Chart delination by Walter Pullen" in the dropdown menu.

I believe the energy which is highest in your chart is often the energy you dispence. It is what you indentify with most, your natural way of going about things. All the placements in your chart represent little by little how you are made up and how those sections function individually(Sun=soul-ego,Moon=emotions...)

All that you are made of, all these individual sections combined then give you what you are primarily composed of. The energy which comes out highest out of all is strongest, it represents what is the most YOU.

Planet: Position Aspects Total Rank Percent
Sun: 30.0 ( 6) + 0.0 (10) = 30.0 ( 9) / 5.2%
Moon: 70.0 ( 2) + 18.2 ( 4) = 88.2 ( 2) / 15.3%
Mercury: 47.0 ( 4) + 14.1 ( 5) = 61.1 ( 4) / 10.6%
Venus: 75.0 ( 1) + 2.7 ( 9) = 77.7 ( 3) / 13.5%
Mars: 28.5 ( 7) + 32.2 ( 1) = 60.7 ( 5) / 10.5%
Jupiter: 42.5 ( 5) + 7.9 ( 8) = 50.4 ( 6) / 8.7%
Saturn: 25.0 ( 8) + 8.1 ( 7) = 33.1 ( 8) / 5.7%
Uranus: 10.0 (10) + 10.3 ( 6) = 20.3 (10) / 3.5%
Neptune: 10.0 (11) + 31.4 ( 2) = 41.4 ( 7) / 7.2%
Pluto: 68.5 ( 3) + 26.0 ( 3) = 94.5 ( 1) / 16.4%
Chiron: 7.0 (12) + 0.0 (11) = 7.0 (12) / 1.2%
Node: 12.0 ( 9) + 0.0 (12) = 12.0 (11) / 2.1%
Total: 425.5 + 150.8 = 576.3 / 100.0%

I feel my Pluto energy to be my natural vibe. I am told by people I can be very intense in my ways emotionally. I disburse very naturally what any Plutonic/Scorpio person would, intense intuition, tremendous willpower, strong internally and odd luck of having what ever needs to be revealed to me come on its own. I am also highly defensive & protective but that is because the Moon energy comes in second in my chart.

Before my interest in astrology, I found some parts of my general Gemini Sun to be very off. But now, I can see what my Sun in the 8th house along with being Pluto dominant means for me as a person and what I am and display.

So what in your chart is your strongest energy? Do you feel you indentify with that most?

Do share...

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posted April 08, 2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
According to Pullen, my strongest planet is Mercury, followed by Saturn and Pluto.

I can definitely relate to Mercury and Saturn. Not so much Pluto even though I have a stellium in Scorpio.

I am much more cerebral and intensity is not really my thing. Must be the Mercury/Saturn blend.

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posted April 08, 2012 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so u were really not kidding when u said u were plutonic haha! i thot it came in 3rd or 2nd or something but 1st! oh my!

i am venus dominant in pullen. pluto comes in 2nd. i am undecided between mars and the moon. pullen gives me mars. astro123 gives me the moon.

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posted April 08, 2012 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
According to Pullen, my strongest planet is Mercury, followed by Saturn and Pluto.

I can definitely relate to Mercury and Saturn. Not so much Pluto even though I have a stellium in Scorpio.

I am much more cerebral and intensity is not really my thing. Must be the Mercury/Saturn blend.



Yes, if your strongest energy is Mercury than this def explains it. It is interesting that you have a Scorpio stellium yet you still indentify with the Mercurial energy more. So this prooves to be true for you as well.

Thanks for the input Doux

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posted April 08, 2012 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem.


Oh by the way, interesting thing, according to astro123 (yeah I got interested after sand mentioned it!) my strongest planet is the Moon.

I guess that could explain my moodiness

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posted April 08, 2012 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
so u were really not kidding when u said u were plutonic haha! i thot it came in 3rd or 2nd or something but 1st! oh my!

i am venus dominant in pullen. pluto comes in 2nd. i am undecided between mars and the moon. pullen gives me mars. astro123 gives me the moon.


lol sand what do think i meant all this time when i said "i'm high on the plutoo."

ahah no wonder, we are strong in the same prominant energies. interesting so your # 1 is Venus huh, from the Taurus I'm guessing? not very diff from scorp then, Now i see why you say you can be possessive, you have pluto and Venus strong.

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posted April 08, 2012 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sashar     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've never seen this before... thanks.

And, Venus at 14.1% followed by Jupiter 10.8% and Neptune 10.1%

Not sure about that being my natural way of going about things and such... but it's interesting.

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posted April 08, 2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mine:

Planet: Position Aspects Total Rank Percent
Sun: 47.5 ( 6) + 12.0 ( 7) = 59.5 ( 6) / 9.1%
Moon: 55.0 ( 5) + 14.3 ( 6) = 69.3 ( 5) / 10.6%
Mercury: 42.0 ( 7) + 16.1 ( 5) = 58.1 ( 7) / 8.9%
Venus: 90.0 ( 1) + 23.3 ( 2) = 113.3 ( 1) / 17.4%
Mars: 75.0 ( 2) + 11.9 ( 8) = 86.9 ( 3) / 13.3%
Jupiter: 15.0 ( 8) + 18.6 ( 4) = 33.6 ( 8) / 5.2%
Saturn: 62.5 ( 4) + 23.3 ( 3) = 85.8 ( 4) / 13.1%
Uranus: 10.0 (10) + 0.0 (10) = 10.0 (10) / 1.5%
Neptune: 15.0 ( 9) + 11.2 ( 9) = 26.2 ( 9) / 4.0%
Pluto: 67.0 ( 3) + 28.9 ( 1) = 95.9 ( 2) / 14.7%
Chiron: 7.0 (11) + 0.0 (11) = 7.0 (11) / 1.1%
Node: 7.0 (12) + 0.0 (12) = 7.0 (12) / 1.1%
Total: 493.0 + 159.6 = 652.6 / 100.0%

Sign: Power Rank Percent - Element Power Percent
Aries: 81.8 ( 3) / 12.5% - Fire: 141.9 / 21.7%
Taurus: 96.2 ( 2) / 14.7% - Earth: 181.1 / 27.8%
Gemini: 33.4 ( 8) / 5.1% - Air: 120.9 / 18.5%
Cancer: 18.7 (11) / 2.9% - Water: 208.7 / 32.0%
Leo: 44.1 ( 6) / 6.8%
Virgo: 23.5 ( 9) / 3.6% - Mode Power Percent
Libra: 65.5 ( 4) / 10.0% - Cardinal: 227.4 / 34.8%
Scorpio: 154.9 ( 1) / 23.7% - Fixed: 317.1 / 48.6%
Sagittarius: 15.9 (12) / 2.4% - Mutuable: 108.0 / 16.6%
Capricorn: 61.4 ( 5) / 9.4%
Aquarius: 21.9 (10) / 3.4%
Pisces: 35.2 ( 7) / 5.4%
Total: 652.6 / 100.0%

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posted April 08, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely take the cake when it comes to pluto and scorpio energy. It fits me well and definitely explains me a lot. What's interesting though is most of my scorpio energy is internal and most don't see it until they are closer to me and see my "true" nature. This is usually masked my my gemini energy which is quite good at putting on a front. Nevertheless scorpio type energy is definitely my dominant force. I'm also highly plutonian. Those who are very close to me know this. In particular my mother who both knows astrology very well, and is very close to me.

These are my results:

Planet: Position Aspects Total Rank Percent
Sun: 33.5 ( 6) + 4.0 (10) = 37.5 ( 7) / 6.4%
Moon: 53.5 ( 4) + 7.7 ( 8) = 61.2 ( 5) / 10.4%
Mercury: 55.0 ( 3) + 17.3 ( 5) = 72.3 ( 3) / 12.3%
Venus: 57.5 ( 2) + 11.1 ( 6) = 68.6 ( 4) / 11.7%
Mars: 20.0 ( 7) + 28.2 ( 1) = 48.2 ( 6) / 8.2%
Jupiter: 18.5 ( 8) + 7.9 ( 7) = 26.4 ( 9) / 4.5%
Saturn: 50.0 ( 5) + 25.1 ( 3) = 75.1 ( 2) / 12.8%
Uranus: 10.0 (11) + 5.5 ( 9) = 15.5 (11) / 2.6%
Neptune: 13.5 (10) + 23.4 ( 4) = 36.9 ( 8) / 6.3%
Pluto: 92.5 ( 1) + 27.9 ( 2) = 120.4 ( 1) / 20.5%
Chiron: 17.0 ( 9) + 0.0 (11) = 17.0 (10) / 2.9%
Node: 7.0 (12) + 0.0 (12) = 7.0 (12) / 1.2%
Total: 428.0 + 158.3 = 586.3 / 100.0%

Sign: Power Rank Percent - Element
Aries: 38.0 ( 6) / 6.5%
Taurus: 42.1 ( 5) / 7.2%
Gemini: 114.8 ( 2) / 19.6%
Cancer: 43.6 ( 4) / 7.4%
Leo: 11.7 (12) / 2.0%
Virgo: 17.7 (11) / 3.0%
Libra: 18.8 (10) / 3.2%
Scorpio: 159.7 ( 1) / 27.2%
Sagittarius: 20.6 ( 9) / 3.5%
Capricorn: 73.0 ( 3) / 12.5%
Aquarius: 23.0 ( 8) / 3.9%
Pisces: 23.1 ( 7) / 3.9%
Total: 586.3 / 100.0%

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posted April 08, 2012 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy cow tautomer! That's one strong Pluto!

Okay here, an award for you, the most intense person on the board

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posted April 08, 2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sand

so you have a mix of venus+pluto+mars as your strongest...that is intense but also strong. You must be very high on magnetism. People must have strong feelings and emotions towards you and vice versa. And wow you must be high on will and will power even if you are a Taurus Sun. Mix all that in with a little bit of saturn to teach you good lessons in life which makes you come out even stronger in the end! Not to mention you also have a sweet side that creeps out when you want it to from the Venus. Those are some good energies to have strong.

i tired the 123 and my pluto & moon are still pretty strong although mars comes in a little higher so does neptune. Something interesting on there was that they have "harmony, discord", so you can see what is creating more harmony and discord.
My Pltuo is my only energy where harmony is significantly higher than discord which tells me my strongest energy is also my most harmonious.

Thanks for the link sand

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posted April 08, 2012 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Holy cow tautomer! That's one strong Pluto!

Okay here, an award for you, the most intense person on the board


*ahem* Where is the chocolate cake to go with it? haha

Yup my plutonian nature is quite hard for me to "hide" because it's so much stronger compared to the rest of my planets. It's what defines me. I am serious, focused, determined, very deep, and very black-white with almost everything. When I am sitting still reading, working, etc. Many people will say I give off this very focused, intense, or sad kind of vibe. I've worked on it a lot to help control that because I don't want to be unapproachable. It also makes me constantly self-transform and work on all of my flaws. I am so self-aware that it has caused very bad depression in the past. I've bee fighting through a bunch of it recently but I am on the upswing thankfully.

I count my lucky stars for having a lot of gemini energy too though, because it allows me to mask my scorpio energy when I am in situations where I can't let it be seen. Of course, I can't sustain it for long though.

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posted April 08, 2012 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh right, you still have a Venusian Sun! Here's the caaaaaake!


And yeah, I can only imagine what it's like to be so intense. The air definitely helps here, I think. Otherwise you'd be unable to detach and be objective, but I think you're quite good at seeing yourself from an outside point of view. I've noticed the desire to "evolve" and improve in Plutonians, definitely, which is a good thing. Many people don't even think about this stuff.

So, kudos to you!

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posted April 08, 2012 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for violet7887     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I definitely take the cake when it comes to pluto and scorpio energy. It fits me well and definitely explains me a lot. What's interesting though is most of my scorpio energy is internal and most don't see it until they are closer to me and see my "true" nature. This is usually masked my my gemini energy which is quite good at putting on a front. Nevertheless scorpio type energy is definitely my dominant force. I'm also highly plutonian. Those who are very close to me know this. In particular my mother who both knows astrology very well, and is very close to me.


Tautomer, you can take the whole bakery buddy. Thats a lot of Pluto. Mixed in with that saturn being second strongest, you are meant to fight for what you deserve, and maybe others as well. I can totally agree with you on the Mercury/Gemini being a good front for the hidden intensity only the ones who are close to us see. Wow, you are a Scorpio mooner conjunct Pluto AND Sun in 8th House, no wonder! You needed all those Gem placements for some lightless. I dont think I can think much to say to you except the one phrase...

"With great power, comes great responsibility."

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posted April 08, 2012 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by violet7887:
sand

so you have a mix of venus+pluto+mars as your strongest...that is intense but also strong. You must be very high on magnetism. People must have strong feelings and emotions towards you and vice versa. And wow you must be high on will and will power even if you are a Taurus Sun. Mix all that in with a little bit of saturn to teach you good lessons in life which makes you come out even stronger in the end! Not to mention you also have a sweet side that creeps out when you want it to from the Venus. Those are some good energies to have strong.

i tired the 123 and my pluto & moon are still pretty strong although mars comes in a little higher so does neptune. Something interesting on there was that they have "harmony, discord", so you can see what is creating more harmony and discord.
My Pltuo is my only energy where harmony is significantly higher than discord which tells me my strongest energy is also my most harmonious.

Thanks for the link sand


heyy taurus sun have strong will powah! hehe but thanks!

in astro123 did you notice they give a rating for the ascendant? that is my strongest there if i remember.

see the thing is the mars/aries dominance comes from 1st house planets and i'm fine with that method but maybe it is abit secondary. the saturn must come from my moon in house 10 plus saturn has quite a few aspects i guess.

i am trying to figure out my astrotheme dominants how they compute theirs and i think it is closer to astro123.

oh i'm all sorts of discord on that one if i remember haha so don't worry!

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posted April 08, 2012 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
btw what do you think of strong planets like in exaltation or domicile but afflicted or in discordance.. do you think those are more hurtful towards others? or nah?

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Oh yes. I'd forgotten about this and looked mine up again.

Strongest is

Venus: 62.0 ( 1) + 17.8 ( 3) = 79.8 ( 1) / 14.1%

w/ Pluto in close second

Pluto: 61.0 ( 2) + 8.7 ( 8) = 69.7 ( 4) / 12.3%

winning sign turns out to be Leo.

Element: Air
Mode: Fixed

Sounds about right to me.

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posted April 08, 2012 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand:
btw what do you think of strong planets like in exaltation or domicile but afflicted or in discordance.. do you think those are more hurtful towards others? or nah?

Well, obvious any sort of important placement is going to way a lot, also the same goes with aspects. This can be good or bad. You could have a lot of jupiter energy for example, but it could be due to hard aspects or bad placements. It would be a dominant energy placement, and the individual would definitely be Jovian. However, it would be of a different or difficult quality then of someone who has a lot of positive placements to things. Two individuals who are Jovian, are not going to automatically be similar to each other. It would be possible for them to both have that energy, and it would be easily recognized. Yet, they would have completely different energy and persona's themselves.

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Oh right, you still have a Venusian Sun! Here's the caaaaaake!


And yeah, I can only imagine what it's like to be so intense. The air definitely helps here, I think. Otherwise you'd be unable to detach and be objective, but I think you're quite good at seeing yourself from an outside point of view. I've noticed the desire to "evolve" and improve in Plutonians, definitely, which is a good thing. Many people don't even think about this stuff.

So, kudos to you!


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Tautomer, you can take the whole bakery buddy. Thats a lot of Pluto. Mixed in with that saturn being second strongest, you are meant to fight for what you deserve, and maybe others as well. I can totally agree with you on the Mercury/Gemini being a good front for the hidden intensity only the ones who are close to us see. Wow, you are a Scorpio mooner conjunct Pluto AND Sun in 8th House, no wonder! You needed all those Gem placements for some lightless. I dont think I can think much to say to you except the one phrase...

"With great power, comes great responsibility."


Haha, all I can say is yup! I'm very thankful for being able to be objective (although that doesn't always work). That "power" has gotten to my head a few times. I've learned to be responsible with it.

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posted April 08, 2012 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
got myself a lot of scorpio\pluto energy

for the planets:

Sun: 42.5 ( 6) + 18.3 ( 6) = 60.8 ( 6) / 9.1%
Moon: 35.0 ( 7) + 24.0 ( 5) = 59.0 ( 7) / 8.9%
Mercury: 10.0 (10) + 2.7 (10) = 12.7 (10) / 1.9%
Venus: 64.5 ( 2) + 4.3 ( 8) = 68.8 ( 5) / 10.3%
Mars: 60.0 ( 3) + 25.7 ( 3) = 85.7 ( 2) / 12.9%
Jupiter: 53.5 ( 4) + 3.3 ( 9) = 56.8 ( 8) / 8.5%
Saturn: 50.0 ( 5) + 6.5 ( 7) = 56.5 ( 9) / 8.5%
Uranus: 35.0 ( 8) + 43.3 ( 1) = 78.3 ( 3) / 11.7%
Neptune: 35.0 ( 9) + 36.1 ( 2) = 71.1 ( 4) / 10.7%
Pluto: 78.5 ( 1) + 24.2 ( 4) = 102.7 ( 1) / 15.4%
Chiron: 7.0 (11) + 0.0 (11) = 7.0 (11) / 1.1%
Node: 7.0 (12) + 0.0 (12) = 7.0 (12) / 1.1%
Total: 478.0 + 188.4 = 666.4 / 100.0%

for the signs:
Aries: 58.0 ( 5) / 8.7%
Taurus: 26.2 ( 9) / 3.9%
Gemini: 5.0 (11) / 0.7%
Cancer: 16.4 (10) / 2.5%
Leo: 41.6 ( 8) / 6.2%
Virgo: 2.6 (12) / 0.4%
Libra: 68.0 ( 4) / 10.2%
Scorpio: 158.1 ( 1) / 23.7%
Sagittarius: 68.1 ( 3) / 10.2%
Capricorn: 117.6 ( 2) / 17.6%
Aquarius: 47.4 ( 7) / 7.1%
Pisces: 57.3 ( 6) / 8.6%

my plutonian personality is usually kept away from other people but it does shine through and people always ask me if something is disturbing me or why i am so mad

i can deeply and strongly feel pluto\mars energy (they conjunct in scorpio 2 deg orb) but i never act on it on an impulse unless it concerns a person i care about that is being treated badly so im usually a quiet and reflecting person (introverted libra sun with cap asc).... and few people understand my depth of feeling untill i start shouting and throwing sharp thing at them

but thats just silly little me ....

did any one notice that there are a lot of heavy pluto\scorpio people here?

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posted April 08, 2012 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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did any one notice that there are a lot of heavy pluto\scorpio people here?

I have, and it makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Those sorts of people dig deep within themselves and within life. There is a huge drive to do so and to ignore it is a huge violation to themselves. Astrology is a major tool that can allow one to dig into the deeper parts of their life, mind, and others around them. That is a satisfying thing for a plutonian and or scorpio person. Henceforth, these types of people are going to be easily drawn to astrology.

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posted April 08, 2012 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I have, and it makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Those sorts of people dig deep within themselves and within life. There is a huge drive to do so and to ignore it is a huge violation to themselves. Astrology is a major tool that can allow one to dig into the deeper parts of their life, mind, and others around them. That is a satisfying thing for a plutonian and or scorpio person. Henceforth, these types of people are going to be easily drawn to astrology.



You nailed it!

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posted April 08, 2012 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My strongest planet is Saturn (16.1 %) Followed by Sun (14.6%) and a close tie between Moon and Venus for third (10%). I wish it was something a little more cheerful, but I can’t say I’m surprised about Saturn, I’ve faced a lot of restrictions in my life, externally and self-imposed…

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posted April 08, 2012 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
uranus and venus,i'm a distant romantic.

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posted April 08, 2012 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tautomer, looks like we have a lot in common chart wise.

My most dominant sign is Scorpio at 20.5% and Pluto ranks number one in planets at 16.2%. Saturn also happens to be my second place planet with 14%. Mercury comes in third at 10.7%.

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posted April 08, 2012 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by the89freespirit:
Tautomer, looks like we have a lot in common chart wise.

My most dominant sign is Scorpio at 20.5% and Pluto ranks number one in planets at 16.2%. Saturn also happens to be my second place planet with 14%. Mercury comes in third at 10.7%.


I have the same dominant energies.

Scorpio sign wise (23.8%)
Mecury (16.6%), Saturn (14.5%) and Pluto (12.5%) planet wise.


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