Is Scorpio venus much like having venus conjunct pluto natally?

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polysigh Knowflake Posts: 180 From: Chicago, USA Registered: May 2011	posted April 08, 2012 05:51 PM Would the Venus in scorpio person feel and act the way a venus/pluto person would with regard to relationships? If the venus in scorpio also had Mars in scorpio? How would this play into the mix? IP: Logged
tautomer4314 Knowflake Posts: 659 From: Oregon Registered: Dec 2011	posted April 08, 2012 06:19 PM I think of it this way: The sign a planet is in is it's true essence. What it is at it's core and ultimately what rules it. Aspects and house placements add an overlay to this essence. Sometimes that overlay is very thick and can strongly mask the true nature of the placement. Othertimes, it's quite minor. So really, having an aspect or house placement does not actually change the true nature of the sign the planet it is in. ------------------ It's All Elemental ----- My Chart if relevant IP: Logged
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4490 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 08, 2012 06:25 PM quote: Originally posted by tautomer4314: I think of it this way: The sign a planet is in is it's true essence. What it is at it's core and ultimately what rules it. Aspects and house placements add an overlay to this essence. Sometimes that overlay is very thick and can strongly mask the true nature of the placement. Othertimes, it's quite minor. So really, having an aspect or house placement does not actually change the true nature of the sign the planet it is in. hmm i dont know ,i think house placements and aspects can drastically alter things, my sun is in the twelfth conjunct saturn and i am a whole lot shyer and more inhibited than a double aquarius should be. IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 08, 2012 06:35 PM Good question. Actually I am not sure about this. Some people think that Venus in Scorpio is not as intense as Venus/Pluto but I wouldn't know. But Venus and Mars in Scorpio? Chances are they're quite Scorpionic. They'd have the typical Plutonian approach in love ie intense, jealous, possessive, focused, etc. IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted April 08, 2012 06:40 PM = IP: Logged
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4490 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 08, 2012 06:43 PM quote: Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: I have both Venus in Scorpio AND Venus conjunct Pluto (my Pluto is also in Scorpio). Mwah ha ha ha. In all seriousness, YES, it's intense. I can't say whether or not it's like having Venus conjunct Pluto, since I have both, but I can say that is a VERY intense (and spiritual) approach to relationships. Pluto and Scorpio both offer the possibility of death and destruction, but also the possibility of rebuilding and renewal. haha thats heavy stuff, too heavy for a gemini mars XD IP: Logged
inthemisosoup Knowflake Posts: 409 From: Registered: Aug 2011	posted April 08, 2012 07:07 PM I can't really infer personally, either, as i also have Venus in scorpio conjunct Pluto, and in the eighth house on top of all of that. I would think that an aspect would only modify the expression of the planet's natural placement, howver, when taking into consideration an outer planet contact to a personal planet . . . I think this is a heavier, more expressive and prominent aspect than a normal aspect would be. In that sense, I would think Venus/Pluto is more intense than a simple Venus in Scorpio (which many more people have). IP: Logged
sand Knowflake Posts: 6997 From: Registered: May 2011	posted April 08, 2012 07:20 PM maybe this thread will help a little.. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/000012.html IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted April 08, 2012 07:21 PM = IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 08, 2012 07:24 PM So what about the people who have an air Mars and a Scorpio Venus (or Venus/Pluto)? Are they less intense then? IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 08, 2012 07:27 PM quote: Originally posted by sand: maybe this thread will help a little.. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/000012.html Wow that's a great thread, Lonake did a great job! Thank you for posting it! IP: Logged
inthemisosoup Knowflake Posts: 409 From: Registered: Aug 2011	posted April 08, 2012 07:29 PM quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: So what about the people who have an air Mars and a Scorpio Venus (or Venus/Pluto)? Are they less intense then? Still intensely emotional and attached to their S/O, just more detached externally. Their intense feelings are tempered with airy aloofness . . . they are more comfortable with space in a relationship, but probably are often conflicted by that very same sentiment. Maybe less inclined to power games/manipulation. Aspects to the Mars would of course modify what I'm saying. IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 08, 2012 07:31 PM quote: Originally posted by inthemisosoup: Still intensely emotional and attached to their S/O, just more detached externally. Their intense feelings are tempered with airy aloofness . . . they are more comfortable with space in a relationship, but probably are often conflicted by that very same sentiment. Maybe less inclined to power games/manipulation. Aspects to the Mars would of course modify what I'm saying. Thank you for your insight. IP: Logged
RegardesPlatero Moderator Posts: 4367 From: Registered: Sep 2011	posted April 08, 2012 07:51 PM quote: Originally posted by Doux Rêve: So what about the people who have an air Mars and a Scorpio Venus (or Venus/Pluto)? Are they less intense then? I'd say maybe less intense in terms of drive/motivation, but intense emotionally. If we're talking about romantic relationships, it's not to say that they might want sex less, but that they might be less "heavy" about it, if that makes sense. They might think about it more in a detached or intellectual way than would a water Mars. Air anything isn't super-intense, at least in my experience with airy people and airy placements. That's not to say that airy people are cold or unfeeling, just that it's not in the same way as, say, water. An air Mars might me motivated more by intellectual stimulation or ideas or something else cerebral, whereas a water Mars might be more motivated by emotion. IP: Logged
Doux Rêve Moderator Posts: 2167 From: Registered: Dec 2010	posted April 08, 2012 07:58 PM I agree Regardes, thank you for your input! It's interesting because I have a water Mars and an air Venus but I am not too sure how that plays out for me because it's kind of confusing. IP: Logged
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4490 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 08, 2012 11:12 PM quote: Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: I have an earth Mars, plus a grand trine in water, so I can dig it :-p but I can see how an airy Mars would go nuts, to be fair... lol i like the passion of scorpio placements,i dated a girl who had mars conjunct pluto and they were both in scorpio and she had a sexdrive as high as any guy ,so that was cool lmao, and i liked her but she was so closed off and suspicious that it killed things for me. IP: Logged
Astra Knowflake Posts: 424 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 09, 2012 01:11 AM quote: haha thats heavy stuff, too heavy for a gemini mars XD Lol. I have a gemini mars along with venus opposite pluto in scorpio. Both pluto and venus also aspect my mars, which makes things interesting. Haha. I had a roommate who had venus in scorpio. She was the biggest b***h that I have ever known. She loved drama and would start fights with her boyfriend just so she could have drama in her life. It almost seemed like she didn't think a relationship was real unless there was a lot of drama, game-playing, accusations and possessiveness involved. She displayed the worst qualities of this placement. I'm sure other venus in scorpios are better able to control their jealousy. I think venus in scorpio is intensity in its purest (for lack of a better word) form. Venus/pluto is VERY intense, but is modified based on sign placement. For example, a venus in Leo sextile Pluto in Libra will behave differently than a venus in Gemini square Pluto in Capricorn. Both will have scorpionic qualities, but will be modified in some way. IP: Logged
Capriquarius unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 01:28 AM "Pluto intensifies whatever it touches." That means it makes a Venus in [insert random non-Scorpio sign here] more intensely a Venus in [insert random non-Scorpio sign here]....whether it intensifies the positive or negative aspects will depend on..well, the aspect lol. But a Venus in [insert random non-Scorpio sign here] with a Pluto aspect will never be the same flavor/color/etc as a Venus in Scorpio. quote: Originally posted by polysigh: If the venus in scorpio also had Mars in scorpio? How would this play into the mix? This would result in a Mars-type personality, since Mars is "comfortable" in Scorpio as a co-ruler whereas Venus is in detriment. A fighter/warrior/conqueror, not much of a lover. IP: Logged
laurenbabiiee7 unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 03:48 AM i also have venus in scorpio 8th house with venus conjunct pluto, pluto in scorpio as well in 8th house too! my horoscope often says i have the ability to trap men under my spell ; ) pretty sexy huh....alot of people tell me i come off sexy even when i don't try this can be very good and veryyyyyyy bad at the same time....considering tho my mars is in saggy this adds an extrememly playful nature to me but nontheless when i fall for somebody i fall for them hard and may think about that person for yeaaaaaaarrrrsssss until i finally get over them, i can still date others even though that one guy may still be in my head though..they say its in fall here but i personally think its amazing you feel everything good about love!! but thennnn it has its downs which we wont get into lol IP: Logged
laurenbabiiee7 unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 03:53 AM and to answer somebodys questions about air mars with venus/pluto scorpio my bf has libra mars and venus conjunct pluto both in scorp and he is pretty possessive but also tends to be aloof like somebody said..i feel like he has a hard time realllly expressing how hard or how much he feels with the aloof mask but nontheless these ppl are still very loyal it'll just add a little lightness to their lovin same as if mars wuld be in fire sign it wuld add lightness and fieryness to their way of expressing love IP: Logged
Nyah Knowflake Posts: 191 From: Europe Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 09, 2012 04:16 AM quote: Originally posted by inthemisosoup: Still intensely emotional and attached to their S/O, just more detached externally. Their intense feelings are tempered with airy aloofness . . . they are more comfortable with space in a relationship, but probably are often conflicted by that very same sentiment. Maybe less inclined to power games/manipulation. Aspects to the Mars would of course modify what I'm saying. I can relate but I have Cap Moon/Venus square Pluto instead of the conjunction + an air Mars. Not much Scorpio in my chart but aspects that would explain my intense emotional nature. It's love, hate, destruction, passions and obsessions... I feel like my inside is burning, but the outside stays cool (until I explode). My Uranus in Scorpio is stationary (R), that may also boost everything a little bit. ------------------ Ascendant: Gemini Sun: Pisces Moon: Capricorn Mercury: Pisces Venus: Capricorn Mars: Aquarius IP: Logged
Lonake Moderator Posts: 8763 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted April 09, 2012 04:17 AM quote: Originally posted by inthemisosoup: Still intensely emotional and attached to their S/O, just more detached externally. Their intense feelings are tempered with airy aloofness . . . they are more comfortable with space in a relationship, but probably are often conflicted by that very same sentiment. Maybe less inclined to power games/manipulation. Aspects to the Mars would of course modify what I'm saying. Hehehehe. I have Air Mars conj Air Pluto & Earth Venus sq Air Pluto. This was fun to read, thanks IP: Logged
laurenbabiiee7 unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 04:30 AM one more thing lol....i can alawys sense how a person may feel/act in a relationship..if i ever get the sense theyre very lighthearted when it comes to relationships i tend to keep distance for fear they will see my crazy obsessive side that i cant help lol i'm complex i can like two people at the same time but i don't like to date im either in relationship or im not IP: Logged
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4490 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012	posted April 09, 2012 04:37 AM quote: Originally posted by laurenbabiiee7: i also have venus in scorpio 8th house with venus conjunct pluto, pluto in scorpio as well in 8th house too! my horoscope often says i have the ability to trap men under my spell ; ) pretty sexy huh....alot of people tell me i come off sexy even when i don't try this can be very good and veryyyyyyy bad at the same time....considering tho my mars is in saggy this adds an extrememly playful nature to me but nontheless when i fall for somebody i fall for them hard and may think about that person for yeaaaaaaarrrrsssss until i finally get over them, i can still date others even though that one guy may still be in my head though..they say its in fall here but i personally think its amazing you feel everything good about love!! but thennnn it has its downs which we wont get into lol lol that's kinda scary! IP: Logged
laurenbabiiee7 unregistered	posted April 09, 2012 04:55 AM whats scary? its sexy!! sexualastrology.com labels my combo as the naughty lover muahahah im never crazy tho like if a guy wants to leave so be it...there are many more fish in the sea IP: Logged

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