posted April 13, 2012 06:27 PM            

I totally agree with the description on 12th house Pluto. As someone with this placement, I really do have a difficult time unburdening myself without feeling ashamed. I think Moon conjunct Chiron has a lot to do with this as well.

The double life part... yes, I agree with that to a degree. I think, depending on how Pluto touches the rest of the chart and other aspects + placements, most everyone with Pluto in the 12th does have a secret side. And one we can easily become ashamed of if we observe it after a while. I can attest to this... I have always feared my inner darkness. I have an extremely dark side, despite the gag-worthy cliche term. Sometimes it has manifested as a daredevil that comes out at the most inappropriate times. Other times it has come out as being, as you happened to say, inappropriately sexual. It has been difficult dealing with Pluto's 12th house energy, especially because it makes a loose conjunction, I think, to Venus in Scorpio.

Anyway, I think the biggest struggle, as I've said, for people with this placement is to deal with the darkness and the monsters they keep inside, and controlling it when it has to come out.

posted April 13, 2012 06:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Sashar:
Sorry. I didn't mean to be asking for a reading or anything. I just thought it was odd that I had Pluto amongst those other planets in the 10th... yet my career/social life is basically nil (also no contact with either parent). Thought maybe the 10th might signify something else because I've got no clue where that energy is going or directed at.

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That is kewl. I wanted to look more into it

posted April 13, 2012 06:32 PM            

Having said that, Pluto is actually my favourite planet (YES PLANET, not a dwarf) and I think that's because at some point I realized it was better to surrender to my destiny than fight it. There's no arguing with Pluto anyhow.

We still have our disagreements and right now we're not exactly on speaking terms because I'm working through the worst break up of all time and I'm angry and feeling super rejected. But eventually once I'm through it, I know it will be because of Pluto that I'm stronger and wiser and a better version of myself so in the end I have to say that I love Pluto.

posted April 13, 2012 06:32 PM            

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This was beautiful writing! Awesome.

I totally agree with the description on 12th house Pluto. As someone with this placement, I really do have a difficult time unburdening myself without feeling ashamed. I think Moon conjunct Chiron has a lot to do with this as well.

The double life part... yes, I agree with that to a degree. I think, depending on how Pluto touches the rest of the chart and other aspects + placements, most everyone with Pluto in the 12th does have a secret side. And one we can easily become ashamed of if we observe it after a while. I can attest to this... I have always feared my inner darkness. I have an extremely dark side, despite the gag-worthy cliche term. Sometimes it has manifested as a daredevil that comes out at the most inappropriate times. Other times it has come out as being, as you happened to say, inappropriately sexual. It has been difficult dealing with Pluto's 12th house energy, especially because it makes a loose conjunction, I think, to Venus in Scorpio.

Anyway, I think the biggest struggle, as I've said, for people with this placement is to deal with the darkness and the monsters they keep inside, and controlling it when it has to come out.

Many of my favorite celebrities had this placement, such as Marilyn Monroe and Kurt Cobain. As we can see with Marilyn, her dark side with the addiction to pills that eventually assisted in her overdose/suicide. She had a tremendously abusive childhood as well... I have noticed that is a reoccurring theme with Pluto in the 12th. Some kind of childhood abuse. Feeling abused. Wanting to escape in childhood. Kurt Cobain's childhood ruined his life, basically...according to what we have heard him say. He attests he was abused.

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Thank you Sweet scorpion! I did not know that about Marilyn and Kurt. Pluto is very potent and it does not like the 12th House which is amorphous. I really think one needs to find one person to whom one can tell ALL one's secrets. I get this from a chart I did where the girl had 4-5 12th house planets. I was the first person to whom she told her truth.It set her free.

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posted April 13, 2012 07:16 PM            

I definitely identify with being the leader and ultimately I want to be in charge of everything. In my mind I have a vision for how I want everything to ideally be and function and I am strongly compelled to do that. Of course I will back off when I need to but the urge is still there.

My pluto conjuncts my scorpio moon and trines my cancer midhaven and mars, so it's energy is amplified quite a bit by those aspects.

I am ALWAYS self improving, self inventing, and rebuilding myself from the ground up. I am aware of everything in my own mind and once I see it I can't unsee it. I am deep with everything I do and don't understand at all what it feels like to stop thinking.

posted April 13, 2012 08:34 PM            

Right now I think Im really getting my lessons hitting me... T.Pluto in my H9 and T.Saturn in H7 (but about to leave) phew..

All of my relationships are a struggle from my family to friends to lovers.. Nothing ever seems to go smoothly. I hate to fight to stay on top at times.
I have had some really bad relationships, but they still served its purpose.. I have learned not to get into those types of relationships any more.. I can see them coming...
But this whole thing with fishy.. This has been the most life altering thing ever... All the other relationships altered my actions.. This one has changed my thinking..
Whats really a relationship, what I need and want... Not to settle just because....

posted April 14, 2012 01:35 PM            

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Pluto in the Second House
By amiann | Published: January 26, 2012 |

If you want to understand Pluto, picture a tidal wave. It will have it’s way. You are told to move toward a wave if it seeks to drown you. The same applies to Pluto. One must move toward Pluto, with submission. Pluto is meant to teach us lessons. We don’t like our lessons, just as we don’t like our vegetables. We want dessert. However, too much dessert makes one stodgy and immobile. As such, when Pluto comes to you, submit. If Pluto is in the 2nd house, one will learn lessons in the material world. One may have grown up with material insecurity such as in housing and basic finances. One may not have been able to relax, as one did not know if one’s basic needs would be met. With Pluto in the 2nd house, these insecurities may last for a lifetime, even if one becomes wealthy. Pluto’s influence stays with one, forever, in one form or another

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posted April 14, 2012 01:37 PM            

both the Pluto in 10th/11th describe a lot about me, my mother has played a huge roll in my life because my father hasn't been there for almost any of it. (didn't even know who my father was until i was 13, and have seen him countable times since) so me and my mother have had an intense relationship, but she's always been super supportive and helpful so i thank her for everything she's done. But as for public image and dreams, i want to make some positive impact on the world and music.. there's so much depression, war, government secrecy, etc that plagues the world's positivity and i want to help turn that around somehow, i'm not in it for the money. I'm already a club/special event DJ, and i'd like to produce music that gives people the inspiration and hope to conquer whatever comes in their future, and if i ever get a public image where i can make a difference, I'd like to shine some more light on these problems.

posted April 14, 2012 01:41 PM            

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my scorpio Pluto is on the 10th/11th house cusp conjunct MC. Pluto is also opposite taurus Moon, square aquarius Sun, and sextile mercury/venus/saturn/neptune (all of which conj. capricorn ascendant)

both the Pluto in 10th/11th describe a lot about me, my mother has played a huge roll in my life because my father hasn't been there for almost any of it. (didn't even know who my father was until i was 13, and have seen him countable times since) so me and my mother have had an intense relationship, but she's always been super supportive and helpful so i thank her for everything she's done. But as for public image and dreams, i want to make some positive impact on the world and music.. there's so much depression, war, government secrecy, etc that plagues the world's positivity and i want to help turn that around somehow, i'm not in it for the money. I'm already a club/special event DJ, and i'd like to produce music that gives people the inspiration and hope to conquer whatever comes in their future, and if i ever get a public image where i can make a difference, I'd like to shine some more light on these problems.

Pluto is transiting conj natal Uranus & Ascendant, soon it will conj. Neptune and oppose Jupiter as well. big things are happening!

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posted April 14, 2012 01:43 PM            

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there's so much depression, war, government secrecy, etc that plagues the world's positivity and i want to help turn that around somehow, i'm not in it for the money. I'm already a club/special event DJ, and i'd like to produce music that gives people the inspiration and hope to conquer whatever comes in their future,

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posted April 25, 2012 02:13 PM            

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Pluto in the 9th House
By amiann | Published: January 28, 2012 |

The question behind the 9th house is ?What is the purpose of life? What is my purpose ?? People with a strong 9th house crave the answers to these questions as one craves chocolate or cheesecake.These individuals are not content with a superficial lifestyle. They will be the ones to take cocktail party talk to the next level. They are quintessential people of depth, as they see below the surfaces of things, but not in an 8th house way which is to plumb the depths of emotions and passions. They plumb the depths of existence, which is quite different. They may major in philosophy. If they don?t, they study it. They are not content to be the cheerleader or the rah rah girl, even if their looks beguile this. The 9th house Pluto native is a person of profundity, first and foremost.

Pluto shakes up the house in which it resides. A person with an 9th house Pluto may struggle with which philosophy to embrace. He may be in a commune one year and the head of a corporation, the next. He may study all religions, and probably has. If you want a one stop shop for talk on world religions, make it a 9th house Pluto, as he has probably been there and done that. This native will not stop until he finds rest, in his personal philosophy/religion/spirituality. It is his quest and the tidal waves of Pluto will not stop until he finds it.

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posted April 26, 2012 12:09 PM            

personality has undergone major transformations, I've a tendency to throw myself in at the deep end with whatever i do...drastic changes in relationships and work...id say i never like things too easy...preferring a challenge...cant seem to help it, perhaps to my detriment.

im often accused of stripping personalities down, i will see through and highlight any ego crap...i really cant help it...doesnt usually lend itself well to building and maintaining relationships if they take it personally (hard not to, i suppose). however i feel if a person is open to growth i can be of service.

posted April 26, 2012 12:40 PM            

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Interesting. my natal pluto is retro in first house scorpio. however using whole signs it resides in 2nd house scorpio. it is exactly conjunct vesta and is opposing mars and square to jupiter. it is sextile to neptune and semi sextile to moon...

personality has undergone major transformations, I've a tendency to throw myself in at the deep end with whatever i do...drastic changes in relationships and work...id say i never like things too easy...preferring a challenge...cant seem to help it, perhaps to my detriment.

im often accused of stripping personalities down, i will see through and highlight any ego crap...i really cant help it...doesnt usually lend itself well to building and maintaining relationships if they take it personally (hard not to, i suppose). however i feel if a person is open to growth i can be of service.

It's probably unrelated but I've had recurring dreams of tidal waves for the last few years and 2012 is feeling very sink or swim so far lol

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posted April 26, 2012 01:38 PM            

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I have pluto in the 7th....u just described my 8 yr marriage perfectly lol kind of scary. Makes me not wanna get married again -too many ups and downs for me. Time will tell I suppose.

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I KNOW.Pluto is a major bummer. Some houses seem worse than others.

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posted April 26, 2012 02:41 PM            

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I KNOW.Pluto is a major bummer. Some houses seem worse than others.

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It's only a major bummer when you don't acknowledge it or work with it . Pluto demands attention and that you clean up your messes. If you don't it will explode your messes for you, and take out anything in the process that gets in the way of the big boom.

posted April 26, 2012 02:47 PM            

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It's only a major bummer when you don't acknowledge it or work with it . Pluto demands attention and that you clean up your messes. If you don't it will explode your messes for you, and take out anything in the process that gets in the way of the big boom.

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True BUT if you have it in the marriage house and you want to get married, it would be hard.

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