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Moonfish
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posted April 16, 2012 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Though these are definitely not romantic placements in Synastry, to my understanding (out of all the other planets that aspect saturn) venus conjunct/opposite is the most cable to keep a couple together. Is this true for anyone who has exprienced it, whether it's you or a couple you know?

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posted April 16, 2012 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Um, my parents have that, father's Saturn opposite mother's Venus. But it also conjuncts her Moon so that probably changes things.
They are divorced and their marriage was.. definitely not happy.

Some people have good experiences with Saturn but I think it depends greatly on the natal chart and other aspects in synastry.


I hope it will be a good experience for you though

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posted April 16, 2012 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mine's a Trine, whatever that implies.

From Cafe Astrology:

The Saturn person acts to stabilize the Venus person's emotions. One another's devotion to the relationship is generally respected. Mutual dependence, mostly in a positive way, characterizes this relationship. This is one indication of a long-term, significant relationship. While this aspect does not indicate romantic attraction in and of itself, if a relationship does develop, there is likely to be a strong commitment and a feeling that each person can rely on the other. Structure and security in your relationship will be important. You can count on each other, and you both take the relationship seriously. You are likely to make sacrifices for one another without even thinking twice.

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posted April 16, 2012 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My parents have this by a 6' orb and they're never gonna divorce, no matter how unhappy they are. But this is more due to them both having Pluto in the 7th. My mum says she'd rather drown in the unhappy marriage rather than letting him go and seeing him be happy with a younger model.

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posted April 16, 2012 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think so. Once they commit, if ever.

This is definately the love shy position but it is SO great for stability/commitement. The ultimate marriage aspect. Sometimes theirs a coldness and venus percieve theyre not obtaining a sufficient quantum of affection from saturn.
It's terrible for spontaneous/sudden attraction which sometimes a relationship needs. The individual I adored we had it, though eventually Ms.Venus Square Uranus came along with him and another girl in their synastry and it played out. </3 Their kinship swapped to romance, it was quicker and seemingly more passionate/playful.
Of course it won't be stable. There are pros and cons to each aspect.


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posted April 16, 2012 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A little more background information on the venus opposition saturn aspect.

From the book understanding Astrology through relations by Ronald Davison:
"If the Venusian partner places a high value on integrity and dependability, she will appreciate her Saturnian mate. This contact tends to favor the long term build-up of an affectionate link between two partners but of itself it is hardly a combination promising ecstasy. The good aspects encourage loyalty but often Venus has to supply most of the affection, while Saturn, even if equally affectionate, may have difficulty in demonstrating his affection outwardly or may lack gentleness in expressing it, though he is likely to have a sober regard for the sterling merits of his partner. Ptolemy speaks well of the conjunction as a combination promising happiness and constancy but it has been observed that on occassion, Saturn's apparent coldness can evoke in Venus such a feeling of restricting and of not being appreciated that the partnership may never flourish. Saturn may be tempted to demand too much from his partner. It may sometimes happen, especially with the conjunction, that Venus has a great deal to learn from Saturn and when Venus is attracted to an older person, his greater experience may be the means of steadying the emotional responses of Venus and helping her to develop a sound all-round sense of values. Sometimes Venus will develop an affection for a Saturn person who for some reason does not return her love or whom she subsequently finds is inaccessible to her.
When the planets are in adverse aspect or either is debilitated Saturn may in some way be the means of denying pleasured to the Venusian partner. The opposition can even prevent a friendship forming, but if other contacts bring two people together, a relationship may exist in which Saturn is prepared to sacrifice love for the sake of financial gain and to take everything Venus is prepared to give without making any noticeable return. Saturns lack of consideration and constant neglect may eventually dampen the gaiety of Venus and exhaust the Venusian capacity for giving affection, while Saturn may consider it his duty to adhere to certain rigid principles of behavior that make no concession to his partner's special need for love and attention.
Saturn may try to discourage any excessive show of feelig from the partner (WHICH IS TRUE. I DID THIS.) who consequently feels denied a natural outlet for her emotions. Venus is always the one who suffers more, though Saturn may feel ill-used by the less responsible or even frivolous attitude of his partner, who does not appreciate all the hard work being done to provide a firm foundation for the relationship. Saturn may have to carry a good deal of the responsibility in such a partnership and while a good aspect between the two planets can signify a ready acceptance by Saturn of the burdens he may have to carry, the adverse aspects can bring about a situation where Saturn can begin to wonder whether it is all wroth while and Venus feels discouraged by what seems to be undeserved criticism from her partner, perhaps associating him with outside circumstances that may cramp her style and limit her freedom."


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posted April 16, 2012 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Nice of you to post that, DS.

Moonfish, good luck with your relationship! Cute Pic!

My husband's Saturn is exactly conjunct my Venus (sorry if I'm turning blue in the face from repeating that so much here) and I believe it has held us together through hard times.

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posted April 16, 2012 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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My mum says she'd rather drown in the unhappy marriage rather than letting him go and seeing him be happy with a younger model.

There’s commitment for ya…lol

My Saturn/Jupiter conjunction opposes his Venus and his Saturn trines my Venus. We’ve known each other for over 20 years and we’ve tried so many times but just can’t seem to make it work. We do stick to each other like glue though, which can be good or bad depending on what else is going on in the natal. In my case, natally he can’t handle the perceived confinement, so either way we lose because we can’t stay together but we can’t be separated for long either.

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posted April 16, 2012 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my bf and i have a venus/saturn both ways. opposite at 4 degrees and trine at 1 degree. both of us have a lot of good saturn placements in our chart anyway and are 'cold, responsible people' by nature, so i find this aspect to be very stable and supportive of the relationship. it feels like i can completel depend upon this person and rely on them being there long-term. he will often make plans for us months in advance, which shows the interest in being around down the line. i am the venus and definitely benefit from his more mature and stable saturn.

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posted April 16, 2012 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jooles     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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both of us have a lot of good saturn placements in our chart anyway and are 'cold, responsible people' by nature, so i find this aspect to be very stable and supportive of the relationship.

That's the deal. In my case, we both have prominent Uranus aspects in our natal.

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posted April 16, 2012 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Doux Rêve
Oh, and how long did there marriage last if you don't mind me asking?

Thank you :]

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posted April 16, 2012 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Capriquarius
Wow that strong huh? Honestly, i don't know if I stay in an unhappy relationship no matter how many saturn aspects i share w/ someone (i have venus square uranus natally)

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posted April 16, 2012 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Desiring Shadows
Thanks for the info DS!

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posted April 16, 2012 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Faith
Thank you so much :]
Its okay, how do you feel about your marriage? Are you usually happy or miserable?

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posted April 16, 2012 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@jooles
Wow, what other aspects in your synastry w/ him do you think might cause that?

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posted April 16, 2012 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Starmoon
Thanks starmoon that's very encouraging

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posted April 16, 2012 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted April 16, 2012 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LuckyLeo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had this conjunction with a boyfriend… it was a very close conjunction - conjunct by just minutes. I was completely in love. I‘m a Capricorn rising, so I guess I’m comfortable with Saturn since he’s my chart ruler and all. However….we did break up. But I think the fact that we stayed together for as long as we did is testimony to the strength of this aspect because the synastry was ALL difficult aspects. Without this aspect I don't think we would have made it even a week!

I think you will learn a lot about yourself and about what it means to be in love with this aspect. How does it feel to you so far? How long have you been together, may i ask?

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posted April 17, 2012 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@LuckyLeo
Very interesting :] do you guys still bump into eachother?

I've known him for 2 years, and been dating for a week. We're both pretty shy so I didn't think we'd push passed a friendship. Even after knowing him for years the guy was stlll scared to even hug me lol. It wasn't until I started showing my true feelings that it gave him enough confidence to ask me out. He's still shy, i think it's because he has Venus Retrograde. But overall I think our relationship can be a serious one :]

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posted April 17, 2012 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@Doux Rêve
Oh, and how long did there marriage last if you don't mind me asking?

Thank you :]


Um, 17 years.

They were madly in love at first, but things degraded fast.


But you guys seem to have a nice synastry, easy aspects to smooth the ride.

So hopefully it will work out just fine for you


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posted April 17, 2012 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
@LuckyLeo
Very interesting :] do you guys still bump into eachother?

I've known him for 2 years, and been dating for a week. We're both pretty shy so I didn't think we'd push passed a friendship. Even after knowing him for years the guy was stlll scared to even hug me lol. It wasn't until I started showing my true feelings that it gave him enough confidence to ask me out. He's still shy, i think it's because he has Venus Retrograde. But overall I think our relationship can be a serious one :]


Can you tell us his sun sign? No pressure.

To answer your question, my Venus-conjunct-Saturn marriage has gotten better over time, we usually get along very well.

I think every commitment involves some sacrifice, but Saturn can be especially demanding, and I'm not thrilled about making all of these sacrifices. I think as women age, they tend to be more insistent on having things as they want them.

Yeah so, I've had to work hard at breaking down certain agreements (?) that I made when I first got married.

Saturn will hold you to them a loooong, looong time.

It's like an infinite, sometimes painful hug.

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posted April 17, 2012 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by jooles:
There’s commitment for ya…lol

My Saturn/Jupiter conjunction opposes his Venus and his Saturn trines my Venus. We’ve known each other for over 20 years and we’ve tried so many times but just can’t seem to make it work. We do stick to each other like glue though, which can be good or bad depending on what else is going on in the natal. In my case, natally he can’t handle the perceived confinement, so either way we lose because we can’t stay together but we can’t be separated for long either.


Such an interesting story!

It sounds like what I went through with a guy when I was younger, and I just realized that his Saturn is trine my Venus (5* orb), trine my Venus-Neptune midpoint (1*) orb.

We still have mutual friends, and I have wondered if we'll ever talk again, since we've been at weddings and funerals together since we stopped talking.

Why did we stop talking? We couldn't take the on-off nature of the relationship, this feeling that we needed each other but somehow weren't right for each other. We could never be casual friends, after trying for years.

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posted April 17, 2012 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Can you tell us his sun sign? No pressure.

To answer your question, my Venus-conjunct-Saturn marriage has gotten better over time, we usually get along very well.

I think every commitment involves some sacrifice, but Saturn can be especially demanding, and I'm not thrilled about making all of these sacrifices. I think as women age, they tend to be more insistent on having things as they want them.

Yeah so, I've had to work hard at breaking down certain agreements (?) that I made when I first got married.

Saturn will hold you to them a loooong, looong time.

It's like an infinite, sometimes painful hug.


Wow, as a scorpio I kinda like the idea of him wanting to hold onto me, at the same time I don't want to feel limited x.x

He's a Gemini :]

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posted April 17, 2012 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Saturn will hold you to them a loooong, looong time.

It's like an infinite, sometimes painful hug.


This resonates with me so much.

@Moonfish, Gemini? Oh careful, he may get scared by your powerful emotions! Unless he's Plutonian himself.

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