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posted April 21, 2012 07:48 AM            

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Like the serious cheaters, who are in adult relationships and cheat without ending the relationship or stop cheating until caught?

I think my sisters bf is cheating. This is just for my curiosity. She knows where I stand on the issue and if I were to bring it up again it would cause a definite rift in our relationship.

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posted April 21, 2012 08:09 AM            

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Afflicted Venus. Unless it's "locked" into a grand cross...in which case the native will feel unable to break away from the unhappy relationship or even muster up the impetus to cheat.

E.g. Venus in hard aspect to Uranus would eventually cheat or break off if the relationship goes stale.

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posted April 21, 2012 09:47 AM            

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I've read that Venus square or sextile Mars can lead to infidelity if the needs aren't getting met at home because they prompt the person to "act" on their sexual impulses... they need an outlet.

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posted April 21, 2012 09:48 AM            

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Also I imagine moon, Venus or Mars aspects to Pluto will make it easier for that person to keep secrets around their sex life.

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posted April 21, 2012 10:14 AM            

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Sun in the first decan of Leo, first decan of Aquarius, third decan Gemini.

They CAN commit, not all are cheaters, but from my reading and what I've seen, there is a stronger impulse there.

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posted April 21, 2012 11:15 AM            

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Venus conj/square/opp mars, uranus, neptune.
Mars conj/square/opp uranus, neptune.
Moon conj/square/opp uranus.

Saturn and/or pluto in aspect to the moon, venus, or mars usually Increases faithfullness and loyalty.

Of the signs a prominent gemini, sag, aries, and sometime libra influence. Gemini and sag or worse in the moon and on the asc/desc axis though than in the sun, I have noticed that many times. Venus in gem or sag can be a real player too.

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posted April 21, 2012 11:31 AM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:

Of the signs a prominent gemini, sag, aries, and sometime libra influence.

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Really? You left out Leo and Aquarius, you might as well put them in there and then you have ALL of the air signs and the Fire signs! Lol, incredible.

Our own personal experiences will often shape our expectations and, or idealizations about such topics, leading to an undeniable bias.

I've seen cheaters in all the signs as we all have, and it surely has more to do with aspects than a certain prominent 'energy' of an element or sign...or I feel anyway.

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posted April 21, 2012 11:39 AM            

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Firewater, I totally Agree with you that it is much more aspects than signs, But I included those signs because I feel they have more of a propensity If they have some of those aspects in their chart also. And no it was not me who was cheated on by these signs.
Also having one of these aspects in your chart, even very close doesnt Make you a cheat. You may attract cheaters instead?? Everyone has free will and the natal chart says little about a person true soul or character, it only shows their propensity to be certain ways.
I myself have a libra stellium, venus in 5th square neptune in 8th, mars conj uranus in sag in the 7th. I have never cheated in my life... I get cheated on.

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posted April 21, 2012 11:43 AM            

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I had an astrologer named sutekh say Venus in Scorpio causes infidelity (or rather, infidelity while demanding loyalty). The longest-term cheater I knew is a Scorpio sun/Scorpio moon combo. In spite of this I don't think signs have anything to do with it. Or even placements, only aspects. Just my opinion.

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posted April 21, 2012 02:14 PM            

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Very interesting. The two biggest cheaters I know have a lot of the aforementioned aspects. And neither have any Saturn contacts with Venus.

The girl cheater has no Venus, moon, or mars aspects with pluto or Saturn.. She also has Venus conjunct Uranus. She is a cap sun, sag moon, sag Venus, Gemini rising.

The male cheater has one Venus semi square pluto and also has mars sextile saturn but those are the only aspects that would lean to faithfulness. Of aspects I read above he has
Venus square mars. Mars and moon conjunct Uranus.
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posted April 21, 2012 03:41 PM            

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Any of the personals connected to Aqua/Uranus.
Also Venus/Mars to Neptune/Pisces.
There are others.

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posted April 21, 2012 03:42 PM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Saturn and/or pluto in aspect to the moon, venus, or mars usually Increases faithfullness and loyalty.

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It's a matter of taking the relationship seriously. Also fear of loss. Maturity. Various factors.

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posted April 21, 2012 03:43 PM            

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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I have never cheated in my life... I get cheated on.

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Sorry, scrappydog

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posted April 21, 2012 03:45 PM            

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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
And neither have any Saturn contacts with Venus.

The girl cheater has no Venus, moon, or mars aspects with pluto or Saturn.. She also has Venus conjunct Uranus. She is a cap sun, sag moon, sag Venus, Gemini rising.

The male cheater has one Venus semi square pluto and also has mars sextile saturn but those are the only aspects that would lean to faithfulness. Of aspects I read above he has
Venus square mars. Mars and moon conjunct Uranus.
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Yea it sounds like the Uranus factor here. Classic.

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posted April 21, 2012 04:08 PM            

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What if someone has:
Moon conj Venus and Saturn
Venus conj Saturn and Mars
Saturn conj Mars
Mars conj Neptune
Neptune conj Uranus
and Pluto sextile Mars, Saturn, and Neptune?

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posted April 21, 2012 04:17 PM            

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The Saturn would likely override cos it is plastered there.
But Mars/Venus is oversexed in conj.
What sign is the Mars/Neptune in cos that one looks iffy.
Wait, if there's a Neptune/Uranus then is it in Cap? Is there a Mars/Uranus?
If Neptune is in Cap, then it'd be ruled by Saturn, and Saturn is conj Mars. So they're still connected.

Looks solid, but evaluate the H5/DSC as well.
Neptune/Uranus conj isn't a factor on its own.

And take into account the sign of the personals.
For example Venus/Saturn sounds solid, but in Aquarius the person may screw around while bemoaning never finding the *one.* I know a Venus/Sun/Saturn in Aqua like that. Mars in Cap. Typically Earth/Water are the faithful signs, as opposed to Air/Fire which aren't so clingy/traditional.

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posted April 21, 2012 04:51 PM            

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The Saturn would likely override cos it is plastered there.
But Mars/Venus is oversexed in conj.
What sign is the Mars/Neptune in cos that one looks iffy.
Wait, if there's a Neptune/Uranus then is it in Cap? Is there a Mars/Uranus?
If Neptune is in Cap, then it'd be ruled by Saturn, and Saturn is conj Mars. So they're still connected.

Looks solid, but evaluate the H5/DSC as well.
Neptune/Uranus conj isn't a factor on its own.

And take into account the sign of the personals.
For example Venus/Saturn sounds solid, but in Aquarius the person may screw around while bemoaning never finding the *one.* I know a Venus/Sun/Saturn in Aqua like that. Mars in Cap. Typically Earth/Water are the faithful signs, as opposed to Air/Fire which aren't so clingy/traditional.

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They're all in Capricorn 9/10H(Placidus) all in 10H using Equal.
Empty 5H
Pluto in 7H.

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posted April 21, 2012 05:11 PM            

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You also have to keep in mind that CAPRICORN, *not* Saturn, is v.sensual. So factor that in.

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posted April 21, 2012 05:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
You also have to keep in mind that CAPRICORN, *not* Saturn, is v.sensual. So factor that in.

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So.. leaning towards unfaithful? :l

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posted April 21, 2012 05:17 PM            

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You tell me (!)

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posted April 21, 2012 05:18 PM            

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Someone with lots of sexy aspects that craves a lot of sex, and also variety, is more likely to cheat!

So venus/pluto, venus/mars, mars/pluto, and venus/uranus, mars/uranus.

If you want to add in magi astrology, then include Venus/Juno, Mars/Juno, Pluto/Juno, Uranus/Juno, Chiron/Juno.

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posted April 21, 2012 05:21 PM            

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Lonake - how did you make the blue loveheart?

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posted April 21, 2012 05:22 PM            

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Oh, then we can add in Sun/Venus too. I agree.
Sexual attraction in synastry is the same as aspects that add to a sexy factor in the natal. Good point

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posted April 21, 2012 05:22 PM            

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: bheart :
^ no spaces in between

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posted April 21, 2012 05:25 PM            

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My question is, is it really cheating? Or is monogamy a flawed construct? It all seems like a Scorpio double standard - demanding sexual fidelity at home while prowling the night for action. The slutty Scorpio mom who gives it up to all comers, but is enraged & neuters the young once they bud sexually.

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What if someone has:
Moon conj Venus and Saturn
Venus conj Saturn and Mars
Saturn conj Mars
Mars conj Neptune
Neptune conj Uranus
and Pluto sextile Mars, Saturn, and Neptune?

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Cheater for sure. Loose sexual boundaries.

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