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cherryblossom
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posted April 23, 2012 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherryblossom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 23, 2012 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi cherry, sorry for your troubles.
It seems to me you need to take some time to heal yourself and reevaluate your relationship.
Give him the time and space he wants but more importantly, give those to YOURSELF.

Welcome to LL!

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posted April 23, 2012 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for your troubles. It seems to me that he needs a time out to learn to behave himself and learn to value what he has. I'm a guy.

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posted April 23, 2012 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cherryblossom:
Is it true that scorp doesn�t like to compromise and change?

yesh!

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posted April 23, 2012 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello cherryblossom! Welcome to LL

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posted April 23, 2012 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherryblossom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 24, 2012 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why do you fight in the first place?

Sounds like your man is quite insecure (cf. jealousy).

I don't think he's the cheating type. Unless his Uranus conjuncts his personal planets, but that could just mean he needs freedom in his relationships. Not one to be tied down.

I think you should just wait and see what he does. Chances are, he'll come back to you.

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posted April 24, 2012 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherryblossom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 24, 2012 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by cherryblossom:
Thanks everyone!

Well.. I can say that it's not totally his fault. I do need to make adjustments as well for him.

We're currently on a break now. It's my fault this time tho.. I'm so confused.

What should i do during this break to change his mind? It's been 3 days on our break..

Day 1: We chat a bit. He said sorry it has to be like this. He was ready to leave but it’s hard for him cause he still loves me. But at the same time he wants to get away from this evil circle where we fight constantly. I tried to be understanding and gave him space. I know I was wrong. Ive hurt him blab la bla..

Day 2: I called him to say hi. At night he texted me and gave me short call just to check if im home.

Day 3: He texted me and we chat a bit in the afternoon and at night he texted me again wanting to know if im home. He said he'll text me again tom. But that’s it. I asked, he answered. He didn’t ask or talk about anything else. I know he’s still mad.


I haven't read all of the other posts...

...but here, he is just checking up on you and keeping tabs and knowing your whereabouts. What it means, why he is doing it...etc, in relation to whether or not he 'cares' about you, idk. But he is certainly interested in tracking you.

..."if it makes you happy."

This all sounds really unfortunate, from what I have read though. No one deserves to be treated this way. And it ****** me off to no end.

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posted April 24, 2012 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, OP, I'm taking a break from some work I don't really want to do, and your post caught my eye.... so here's my two cents in the name of procrastination.

A piece of advice, a gem, in my humble opinion. A gem because it comes from a woman who finally understands "the way it is", now that she's 42.

People don't really change too often. This Scorpio man, if it's his way now to lash out with hurtful words, is not going to stop doing it any time soon. He admits he doesn't know why he does it, which probably means it's a knee jerk, emotional reaction. It's the only way he knows to deal with certain situations.

Don't believe, like I did, when I met my husband at the age of 28, that the things this man does that don't sit well with you are ever going to go away. Despite his other wonderful qualities, he will probably always be verbally abusive. And it will only get worse as he's more familiar with you and starts to take you for granted. The man I ended up marrying showed a LOT of telltale signs of who he REALLY was behind the mask. Some of those signs truly bothered me, but for whatever reason, I chose to plod onwards, on a course of marriage and home together. Well, I wrote out a retainer check to a matrimonial attorney a couple of months ago after years of becoming increasingly frustrated with him, his woe-is-me attitude (he had it before we married), his lack of verbal restraint (ditto), his passive aggressive behavior (ditto) and his need to control the smallest things in our joint household (yes, there were signs of that too, earlier).

I'm not saying that an astrological analysis of him is a bad idea. I'm just saying, maybe once you do that, whatever the outcome, you move on and leave him behind in the dust. Say a civil goodbye and look forward to having a wonderful man in your life who doesn't abuse your sensitive nature. He will come if you invite him in to your space.

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posted April 24, 2012 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you know that saying, "People tell you who they are?"... I've found that to be true. If you listen carefully enough to the things that a prospective partner says, you will know WHO they are, at their core.

OP, and every other man or woman who is getting involved romantically with someone... please listen to what these people are telling you. It's the best predictor of future behavior.

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posted April 24, 2012 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by crabbypatty:
Okay, OP, I'm taking a break from some work I don't really want to do, and your post caught my eye.... so here's my two cents in the name of procrastination.

A piece of advice, a gem, in my humble opinion. A gem because it comes from a woman who finally understands "the way it is", now that she's 42.

People don't really change too often. This Scorpio man, if it's his way now to lash out with hurtful words, is not going to stop doing it any time soon. He admits he doesn't know why he does it, which probably means it's a knee jerk, emotional reaction. It's the only way he knows to deal with certain situations.

Don't believe, like I did, when I met my husband at the age of 28, that the things this man does that don't sit well with you are ever going to go away. Despite his other wonderful qualities, he will probably always be verbally abusive. And it will only get worse as he's more familiar with you and starts to take you for granted. The man I ended up marrying showed a LOT of telltale signs of who he REALLY was behind the mask. Some of those signs truly bothered me, but for whatever reason, I chose to plod onwards, on a course of marriage and home together. Well, I wrote out a retainer check to a matrimonial attorney a couple of months ago after years of becoming increasingly frustrated with him, his woe-is-me attitude (he had it before we married), his lack of verbal restraint (ditto), his passive aggressive behavior (ditto) and his need to control the smallest things in our joint household (yes, there were signs of that too, earlier).

I'm not saying that an astrological analysis of him is a bad idea. I'm just saying, maybe once you do that, whatever the outcome, you move on and leave him behind in the dust. Say a civil goodbye and look forward to having a wonderful man in your life who doesn't abuse your sensitive nature. He will come if you invite him in to your space.



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posted April 24, 2012 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sorcha     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to agree with crabbypatty on this one. Everything she said is pretty much what I would have said. People have to be motivated to change themselves and usually (though not always), it's through painful experiences that we make the decision to do so. If he says "I don't know" then he probably doesn't but it's up to him to decide to "know", not you.

I also agree that having a look at his astrological chart will lend you some insight in to his character, but it's not going to change who he is and you will know who a person is by the most consistent way they treat you.

Some of this may be hard to hear but I would consider it before making any further decisions and use this break to take stock of what *you* want instead of asking him what *he* wants.

Best of luck to you

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posted April 24, 2012 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, and him not being willing to change anything to suit your needs means he's self centered now and will probably continue to be.

You asked whether Scorpio's don't like compromise and/or change. I am a Scorpio but I have heavy Libra and Aquarius influence, so in my case, change is something I embrace, and compromise is something I always strive for. So, to answer your question, it depends on other elements in the person's chart, I think.

Don't give up on Scorpio men. I know one with a Pisces moon who would probably take your breath away.

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posted April 24, 2012 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by crabbypatty:
Oh, and him not being willing to change anything to suit your needs means he's self centered now and will probably continue to be.

You asked whether Scorpio's don't like compromise and/or change. I am a Scorpio but I have heavy Libra and Aquarius influence, so in my case, change is something I embrace, and compromise is something I always strive for. So, to answer your question, it depends on other elements in the person's chart, I think.

Don't give up on Scorpio men. I know one with a Pisces moon who would probably take your breath away.



Haha, I'm a Libra with scorpio influences. I am with you 120% on the compromise and change part.

And yes, not all scorpio men are bad..just gotta meet the right ones.

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posted April 24, 2012 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just speaking as an old man since I neither have Scorpio or Libra influence. Never ever hook up with a man hoping that he is going to change out of love. People have will power when in love, but love can fade and return. But the bottom line is men of all stripes are fundamentally men. Either not accept them because they are distasteful or odious, or learn to live with all their faults, for whatever they are worth. Most men are headstrong and stubborn creatures, and yes there are exceptions. But if he is bossy now, count on him being bossy forever. I know too many women who marry men out of love hoping that they will change after marriage. It invariably ends in disaster.

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posted April 24, 2012 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This guy is not complex or insecure. He's a gentle, passive soul.

He loves you and doesn't want to hurt you. But he's given this relationship all he has to give. He's trying to tell you, but you won't listen to him. Where he was once sweet he's turned bitter. It's a hope, a prayer, a wish you will spit him out. But you won't.

Hear what he is saying to you. Release him.

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posted April 25, 2012 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
This guy is not complex or insecure. He's a gentle, passive soul.

He loves you and doesn't want to hurt you. But he's given this relationship all he has to give. He's trying to tell you, but you won't listen to him. Where he was once sweet he's turned bitter. It's a hope, a prayer, a wish you will spit him out. But you won't.

Hear what he is saying to you. Release him.


It could be the case.
I went through this with a Scorpio man, and i could not understand why he suddenly became so mean. But yea, he wanted ME to realize the truth. Scorpio man are like that.

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posted April 25, 2012 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherryblossom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 25, 2012 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont really want to get into details, but in short it was a strange platonic love for 2 years. Basically we were friends, but only because he thought i was too young for him. We were very close and helped each other through a lot. But we were too close given the fact that nothing ever happened between us. So finally I wanted us to get together, but again, he didnt. He started lying and was very mean and rude to me for weeks. And he did this despite the fact the he knew how much it hurted me. He never had the courage to discuss things in a normal way. But thats it. Since then, we basically not in touch anymore. Really sad story, cause i still miss him

* of course,it doesn't mean though that your relationship cant be saved. But it mainly depends whether your guy want to work out things...

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