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Topic: [Chinese vs. Western] ASC
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vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 120 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 23, 2012 06:09 PM
according to western zodiac, my ASC is aqua and according to chinese zodiac, i have a dragon ASC ... as you know they are totally different personalities. I do relate strongly to aqua, but I feel the describtion of the dragon fits me more, and it perfectly match what other people say about me would like to hear from you all ------------------ -And it goes again ... every me and every you ~ IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 3135 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 23, 2012 07:17 PM
Each chinese sign governs 2 hours in a day,right,and according to that we find our rising?IP: Logged |
vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 120 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 23, 2012 07:36 PM
Yes ... check your rising in chinese and compare it with the western and tell me which one fits you better IP: Logged |
Sashar Knowflake Posts: 226 From: Alternate timeline future Registered: Mar 2012
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posted April 23, 2012 07:45 PM
Are there elemental alterations in the animal signs like there are for the years? If so, that may account for the differences. The animal sign being a general overview with the elemental aspect being the more detailed version. Don't know anything about Chinese Astrology. There's already so much to learn in Western. ------------------ Astrology Activism: The constant strive to not just learn the intricate details of Astrology but the desire to constantly find new ways to prove that it exists in a scientific manner. Failure to incorporate the later into your work is akin to learning how to cure cancer but not sharing it with anyone. IP: Logged |
MillyX Knowflake Posts: 35 From: canada Registered: Feb 2012
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posted April 23, 2012 07:51 PM
According to Chinese astrology,this is my ascendant:snake. But I can't find any descriptions about this ascendant.IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius Knowflake Posts: 3135 From: Saturn-free H12 ;) Registered: Aug 2010
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posted April 23, 2012 07:54 PM
Western rising fits better!IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 3551 From: Earthy MIlkshake Diner Registered: May 2011
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posted April 23, 2012 09:52 PM
ima scorp asc/ rooster hour.is rooster virgo? IP: Logged |
vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 120 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 24, 2012 01:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: ima scorp asc/ rooster hour.is rooster virgo?
Rooster's character is a mix of leo and virgo ... precise, accurate, hardworker and yet loves attention ,very dramatic and loyal IP: Logged |
vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 120 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 24, 2012 01:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by MillyX: According to Chinese astrology,this is my ascendant:snake. But I can't find any descriptions about this ascendant.
Being a snake ascendant will make your characteristics close to this : http://pages.infinit.net/garrick/chinese/snake.html IP: Logged |
MillyX Knowflake Posts: 35 From: canada Registered: Feb 2012
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posted April 24, 2012 01:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by vickymadness: Being a snake ascendant will make your characteristics close to this : http://pages.infinit.net/garrick/chinese/snake.html
Thanks What sign would the snake be in western astrology? IP: Logged |
vickymadness Knowflake Posts: 120 From: Minnesota Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 24, 2012 01:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by MillyX: Thanks What sign would the snake be in western astrology?
The chinese zodiacs are different and you can't find a western sign that's equivalent to the chinese ... But usually they state that it's akin to taurus IP: Logged |
alaz7200 Knowflake Posts: 218 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 24, 2012 05:01 PM
I was born in 1991, making me a Ram/Sheep/Goat in Chinese Astrology. The sign is usually depicted as creative and romantic, which, I am, but is also made synonymous with passivity and a docile nature, which I unfortunately, cannot attest to being a part of my character.For that reason, I never really paid much mind to Chinese Astrology, until I stumbled upon a book that offered different Ascendants for each hour of birth. This put an entirely different spin on Chinese Astrology than most Americans are offered on Chinese Buffet placemats! Upon inquiry into my Chinese Ascendant, I learned that I am an Ox Rising. Immediately, I remember thinking that my grandfather was an Ox, and about how much he and I were so similar in character in temperament. Oxen are very hardworking, loyal, authoritative, and determined individuals. I most definitely feel the Ox inherent in my personality, perhaps more so than the Ram/Sheep/Goat. In Western Astrology, I am a Libra rising, but again, there is the theme of Libra being depicted as docile and passive, which I am MOST DEFINITELY not. All in all, I'd day the Ox is more descriptive of my persona. I would render calculating your Chinese Ascendant essential to anyone looking to further their understanding of Astrology in general. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 7373 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 24, 2012 08:10 PM
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Desiring Shadows Moderator Posts: 810 From: UNITED STATES, BABY Registered: Jan 2012
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posted April 24, 2012 10:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: [b]Western[/B]
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sand Knowflake Posts: 3551 From: Earthy MIlkshake Diner Registered: May 2011
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posted April 24, 2012 10:16 PM
wondering if i may inject something else related to chinese ascendants-ish? it's the same hour/pillar/palace/house. enter your deets here (the 2nd one, calculate zi wei dou shu chart ) http://www.destinyandluck.com/ look at which star falls into your destiny/ life palace. that's equivalent to house 1 in western. then look it up here. http://en.superfate.com/channel_luck/ziwei/index.php?sid=7 the one below is mine. i am scorpio rising with pluto conj asc. i feel it is more accurate than the animal coz although i relate to leo it is my moon and my sun is in the virgo decan of taurus. i do not feel virgo at all tho. out of the 12 enummerated only look at number 1 btw.. III.16 The Power Star (Qi Sha »7épé») The representative of this star is Huang Fei Hu. He is the god of fight and handles power and fierce. He is impetuous and always in danger of something. His face is square and long, his height is high and body health is good. He doesn’t like to be restricted by others. And the anger and happiness for him can be identified easily. Star Name Dou Fen Five Element Yin/Yang Master Good/Bad/Delight/Taboo Chi Sha South Six Fire Mental Yin Jiang Star Focus on slaughter. Yet it will become power only when combining with Zi Wei I Characteristics of the Star 1.Figure and Temper (1)Figure Long and squire face, high height, strong body, short-tempered, likes to compete with others, possessing independent spirit (2) Temper Likes to adventure, rebels many things, straightforward, impatient, display unpredictable temper easily. 2.Character (1)Turning point 1. It is easy to change the situation and damage the original aspect 2. The habit of fine start and poor finish (2) Loneness Noteworthy conduct and independent character (3) For female It is not good for female, especially if the female wants to procreate. (4)Xing Hua 1.Lucky Star: Like to sit lonely and it is not necessary for it to have lucky stars. 2. Sha Star Ⅰ. It can suppress the Sha Star, yet it needs time and efforts to conquer. Ⅱ. Be careful to commit a crime. (5)Luck The luck for this star is not very well. (6)Career Have good luck in career. II Explanation of the Palace
1.Life (1)Unsteady emotion, needs to be educated. (2) Good at managing money. (3) The probability of big change is high. (4) Suitable for soldier, police or military officer III Logic 1. Si Hua Tian Fu»palais»: No Si Hua Tian Xiang»général»: Assist emperor star and does not provided any opinions. Chi Sha »7épé»: A warrior that gives no thought to life and death. Happiness and power are regarded as external things. Chang Qu: There is only Ji and with no happiness (Lu) 2.When the Chi Sha »7épé» gets into life palace, all the stars might be influenced and have bad luck. The reason is that the one is capricious and not good at managing money, blundering in attending to business, easy to lose one's head. IP: Logged |
yuting Knowflake Posts: 614 From: Hong Kong Registered: Oct 2010
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posted April 25, 2012 02:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by vickymadness: according to western zodiac, my ASC is aqua and according to chinese zodiac, i have a dragon ASC ... as you know they are totally different personalities. I do relate strongly to aqua, but I feel the describtion of the dragon fits me more, and it perfectly match what other people say about me would like to hear from you all
Not sure what you mean by Chinese Asc. I have studied a bit about bazi (the 4 pillars) and ziwei (Chinese astrology). I dont think they have an ascendant for either. For bazi, your core personality is the day ruler (ri zhu, or the top character of the 3rd pillar), and the strength of your day ruler is governed primarily whether it is supported or opposed by the month ruler (ie the strongest element among fire, water, metal, wood and earth in that month, bottom character of the 2nd pillar) as well as its relationship with the other 6 characters excluding the month ruler. The time of birth is reflected by the 4th pillar (in relation with the day/3rd pillar) As for ziwei, the primary character is reflected by the star(s) in your 1st house (house of self), supplemented by the star(s) in the 2 houses trining the house of self and the house in opposition
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