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Delilah
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posted April 29, 2012 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Their anniversary is today and there's something about them that makes me hope that they will have a happily ever after story. I've grown up and I'm not jealous of the future Queen. Lol.

Anyway, I was looking at their charts and noticed a few things that point to their spouses. One thing is the sign on both of their Descendants. William has Gemini placed here, which is an air sign, and Catherine is Libra Rising (air sign). Catherine has the fire sign Aries on her Descendant and William is a fire Rising, Sagittarius. William's Moon in his 7H, Libra's traditional house, points to Catherine's Rising sign. However, Catherine's Sun placed in her 4H reflects William's Sun sign, Cancer. Not only that, but her Sun opposites her Moon, the traditional ruler of the 4H, in her 10H. Could this point to her husband's importance?

Looking at the aspects that Catherine's Moon makes to her planets, it also squares her Saturn and Pluto. Perhaps this explains why people were so intrigued by the Prince's choice in marrying a "commoner". He broke with age old tradition, or rather she was/is the break from it. Thinking about it, he wanted her to be sure about what she was getting into (Saturn= reluctance, slow decision making). With Saturn and Pluto in her 1H, I think, makes her stronger than she looks.

Also, about her Moon, it conjuncts her North Node. Maybe they are meant to be? She has definitely helped him to come out a bit more and kind of accept the press for what it is and use it to his advantage. He doesn't need the publicity, but the charities that he has helped to shine a light on could use all of the help that they can get.

Looking at her Juno, it's in her 3H. This placement is telling, but not as much as connecting it to traditional astrology. Her Juno is in Sagittarius and in the house that traditionally rules Gemini, which rules William's DSC. Okay, Sagittarius is the traditional ruler of the 9H. William and Catherine met while in university and higher education is one of the things that the 9H rules. Back to the 3H, they did move in the same circles (community and communication) and people definitely talked. We could also speculate that this placement would reflect a couple who enjoy being with each other because there is a sense of familiarity; they feel that they can trust each other enough to open up about their childhoods.

One last thing about Catherine's chart, her Sun squares her Saturn and Pluto. Aside from William's MC being in Scorpio, these two planets are not very revealing when it comes to the significant signs in William's chart. However, these planets do further explain who he is (not the royal part). I don't doubt that there is a sense of fatedness/karma between them. But looking at the aspects, I see that she was going to marry someone she felt was a soulmate and that his standing in life would be important, possibly suffocating for one of them, their heritage would play a part, and that their lives would drastically change. With Saturn and Pluto in her 1H, it means that her life would change in the way that people see her and there would be no going backwards even if she wanted to. As a Libra Rising, with these two planets in the same sign and house, a wide audience would see her as beautiful and charming- two words that are hardly ever not associated with princesses.

As for William's chart, his Juno is in the same sign as Catherine's Sun, Capricorn (doesn't conjunct in their synastry). Possibly, for a man, Juno in the 1H means that he will look for a woman who is interested in being a wife and would be a good reflection of himself. Is she not? In the 1H, it is in Aries' traditionally ruled house and Catherine's DSC is ruled by this sign.

I'm finding that this kind of predictive astrology does not work the same way as for men. What I said for Catherine's chart is a bit more than I can say for William's.

As I was saying about his Juno placement, it's in the 1H in Capricorn. Juno's ruler, Saturn is in his 9H in Libra (Catherine's Rising sign). His Juno is conjunct his Part of Fortune which could also point to destiny and things changing for the better. They both have a Saturn connection. For William, its placement in his 9H points to meeting in a place of higher education. For both, this is a karmic connection.

On to his Moon, it trines his Pluto and Jupiter. Watch any docu-series about the couple and they usually say the same thing: she has helped him to relax. Pluto is the change and Jupiter is the peace. Also, they are learning from each other in how to deal with the media and royal/worldly etiquette. In his chart, Jupiter and Pluto conjunct in his 9H. In Catherine's, they are not far apart in her 1H and 2H. Aside from her Libra ASC, I don't see either planet revealing in important signs of major planets or angles when it comes to predictive astrology.

If anyone's interested I would like to say more and if you have anything to add on, please do. If it's confusing, I need a nap and will come back later to clarify anything. Just felt like getting back into astrology this morning.

*Edit: William's ASC is in Sagittarius, not his DSC.

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posted April 29, 2012 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice couple but wont last long. They are gonna divorce in a few years. They share both in synastry and composite bad aspects. Also the karmic points.

William married a commoner because his mother was like that. Kate reminds him a lot of his mother Diana. Thats why he chose her.

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posted April 29, 2012 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Deliah
Did you have a typo?
Is her moon conj his NN?
Thanks!
I will come back and study later. Great topic!

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posted April 29, 2012 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Both share the same karmic lesson: developing the emotional level. Moon conjunct NN.
Their Vertexes are in trine. But does not make any aspects with personal planets.
Catherine has an empty 5th house. Will's is full. Houston, we have a problem! He wants kids and can bear them, she not much. Lets hope though with Pisces on the cusp. Even though its also Aqua and Aqua is not much into children. The Royal House is not angry for nothing.

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posted April 29, 2012 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nice couple but wont last long. They are gonna divorce in a few years. They share both in synastry and composite bad aspects. Also the karmic points.

Yeah, I wonder what will happen once her Venus goes direct @ age 33. This should be major because 1) Venus rules affection. 2) It is the ruler of her alleged rising sign. 3) This union, in pSynastry, is linked by a Venus-Venus trine.

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Kate reminds him a lot of his mother Diana. Thats why he chose her.

In basic numerology & astrology they're miles apart. Diana is Cancer, Kate is Capricorn. Diana was born on the 1st, Kate is born on the 9th. The #1 is all ego: willful, combative, dominant. Sometimes I wonder whether this is a "bad" number for women to be born under. This because it gives a personality that invites drama & harsh treatment. The #9, of course, is as far from #1 as you can get on the number scale. While not necessarily a pushover, the #9 unlike #1 doesn't view relationships as a competition against the mate for dominance.

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posted April 29, 2012 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
In basic numerology & astrology they're miles apart. Diana is Cancer, Kate is Capricorn. Diana was born on the 1st, Kate is born on the 9th. The #1 is all ego: willful, combative, dominant. Sometimes I wonder whether this is a "bad" number for women to be born under. This because it gives a personality that invites drama & harsh treatment. The #9, of course, is as far from #1 as you can get on the number scale. While not necessarily a pushover, the #9 unlike #1 doesn't view relationships as a competition against the mate for dominance.


Kate's Moon is in CANCER. In a man's chart, Moon represents THE WIFE and the MOTHER. Numerology and basic astrology have no bussiness here. Will's ideal female type is CANCERIAN. In relationships, Kate acts like a Cancer at an emotional level. Diana happend to be a Cancer. Will wanted a woman who resembles his mother in all matters. Is Kate lucky? Maybe. She married a Prince. It will last? I say no, but lets hope so.

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posted April 29, 2012 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Will wanted a woman who resembles his mother in all matters.

Is this why he went for a short but long haired brunette with a tertiary education??

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posted April 29, 2012 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, I'm not really looking at the synastry of their charts so much as I am looking at their charts as individuals in relation to PREDICTIVE astrology. This is what interests me most- determining the spouse in the natal chart.

Ami, no. Her Moon conjuncts her N.N. in the case of the natal chart, but her Moon does loosely conjunct his N.N.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Nine:
Is this why he went for a short but long haired brunette with a tertiary education??

Do you think Will saw Diana only as a hotty blonde mum? Catherine and Diana are very similar but NOT appearance but in ATITTUDE. Moon DEALS with EMOTIONS not with appearance. Venus deals with that. Will liked Catherine because she was sweet, kind, caring about others, just like Diana did and she has the same grace and elegance. Academic education has nothing to do here. Neither appearance.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah:
Ok, I'm not really looking at the synastry of their charts so much as I am looking at their charts as individuals in relation to PREDICTIVE astrology. This is what interests me most- determining the spouse in the natal chart.

Ami, no. Her Moon conjuncts her N.N.



Wills descendant is in Air element. Catherine is a Libra rising, an air rising. But because his rising is close to the next sign, Will's also was seeking for a Cancerian partner, his almost descendant. So he got Catherine who's Sun happens to be in Capricorn and who's Moon is in Cancer.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an empty 5th house and moon in Cancer.I had no trouble having children. You can't go by an empty 5th house, I don't think.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have an empty 5th house and moon in Cancer.I had no trouble having children. You can't go by an empty 5th house, I don't think.




I meant trouble in DESIRING children. He wants to have kids, she not so much.

I really wonder if they are gonna get the chance to rule UK one day. Moon and NN in 10th gives a strong position in public area but we must forget Charles and Harry.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
An empty 5H is not predictive of how many children you will have. Just look at the aspects that the ruler makes. Her 5HR sextiles Mercury and Venus. Furthermore, they have two planets in their composite 5H.

Will's Moon also squared his Mars, which means that there was trouble where his mother was concerned. He may have been looking for someone who was just as empathetic as his mother, but someone who could also hold up under so much pressure and stress much better. I think that because they have been together for so long reveals that they have what it takes to work things out. Even Joanne Woodward and Paul Newman had major red flags in their synastry, but their marriage lasted longer than what most could dream.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As for an empty 5H and not wanting children, my 5H is empty and yet I do want children. I just don't want to have children with just anyone.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I have an empty 5th house and moon in Cancer.I had no trouble having children. You can't go by an empty 5th house

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posted April 29, 2012 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah:
An empty 5H is not predictive of how many children you will have. Just look at the aspects that the ruler makes. Her 5HR sextiles Mercury and Venus. Furthermore, they have two planets in their composite 5H.

Will's Moon also squared his Mars, which means that there was trouble where his mother was concerned. He may have been looking for someone who was just as empathetic as his mother, but someone who could also hold up under so much pressure and stress much better. I think that because they have been together for so long reveals that they have what it takes to work things out. Even Joanne Woodward and Paul Newman had major red flags in their synastry, but their marriage lasted longer than what most could dream.


Paul Newman and wife were "civilians". Catherine is a ROYALTY now just like Diana became. Royal life is not EASY at all more if you are commoner. Have you forgotten how Diana died and why? The pressure is too high. Diana was lucky to have children. Her only mistake was to dare divorcing Charles. Catherine loves William but if she cannot fulfill the Royal House conditions, the marriage wont last. Diana has two reasons: not loving Charles AND the pressure.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I mean, on the flip side I have Moon in the 5th and I don't want children. The condition of the house ruler is important. My 5th is in Libra, Venus squares Saturn.

Their composite 5th house has Moon and NN.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Diana did love Charles. It was Charles who did not love her. Ever hear about the interview where she was asked if Charles came back to her begging on his knees for her to come back to him whether she would? She said yes. Why take a man back if you don't love him and there's nothing more to be gained other than a new start? She came from money and had her own.

Joanne and Paul were as close to royalty as America could get and were not civilians in the eyes of their fans. Working in Hollywood then and now could put an unbearable strain on any marriage because, like the royals, there were/are standards imposed on the couple.

Catherine has Pluto in her 1H, which gives a person an extraordinary amount of strength. She's had years to get used to the tabloid fodder and look at the way she handles the paparazzi now.

Anyway, this is beside the point. I don't want to go further into this as it's doing nothing but derail the topic.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah:
Diana did love Charles. It was Charles who did not love her. Ever hear about the interview where she was asked if Charles came back to her begging on his knees for her to come back to him whether she would? She said yes. Why take a man back if you don't love him and there's nothing more to be gained other than a new start? She came from money and had her own.

Joanne and Paul were as close to royalty as America could get and were not civilians in the eyes of their fans. Working in Hollywood then and now could put an unbearable strain on any marriage because, like the royals, there were/are standards imposed on the couple.

Catherine has Pluto in her 1H, which gives a person an extraordinary amount of strength. She's had years to get used to the tabloid fodder and look at the way she handles the paparazzi now.

Anyway, this is beside the point. I don't want to go further into this as it's doing nothing but derail the topic.


Until she married William, Catherine was kind of left alone by paps. She was seen like is seen Chelsy, Harry's ex gf. Nothing serious. But now things has changed. Being a royalty is no joke. Not in the eyes of the Queen.

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posted April 29, 2012 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one said that it was. And this has nothing to do with the topic.

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posted April 29, 2012 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah:
Their anniversary is today and there's something about them that makes me hope that they will have a happily ever after story. I've grown up and I'm not jealous of the future Queen. Lol.

Anyway, I was looking at their charts and noticed a few things that point to their spouses. One thing is the sign on both of their Descendants. William has Gemini placed here, which is an air sign, and Catherine is Libra Rising (air sign). Catherine has the fire sign Aries on her Descendant and William is a fire Rising, Sagittarius. William's Moon in his 7H, Libra's traditional house, points to Catherine's Rising sign. However, Catherine's Sun placed in her 4H reflects William's Sun sign, Cancer. Not only that, but her Sun opposites her Moon, the traditional ruler of the 4H, in her 10H. Could this point to her husband's importance?

Looking at the aspects that Catherine's Moon makes to her planets, it also squares her Saturn and Pluto. Perhaps this explains why people were so intrigued by the Prince's choice in marrying a "commoner". He broke with age old tradition, or rather she was/is the break from it. Thinking about it, he wanted her to be sure about what she was getting into (Saturn= reluctance, slow decision making). With Saturn and Pluto in her 1H, I think, makes her stronger than she looks.

Also, about her Moon, it conjuncts her North Node. Maybe they are meant to be? She has definitely helped him to come out a bit more and kind of accept the press for what it is and use it to his advantage. He doesn't need the publicity, but the charities that he has helped to shine a light on could use all of the help that they can get.

Looking at her Juno, it's in her 3H. This placement is telling, but not as much as connecting it to traditional astrology. Her Juno is in Sagittarius and in the house that traditionally rules Gemini, which rules William's DSC. Okay, Sagittarius is the traditional ruler of the 9H. William and Catherine met while in university and higher education is one of the things that the 9H rules. Back to the 3H, they did move in the same circles (community and communication) and people definitely talked. We could also speculate that this placement would reflect a couple who enjoy being with each other because there is a sense of familiarity; they feel that they can trust each other enough to open up about their childhoods.

One last thing about Catherine's chart, her Sun squares her Saturn and Pluto. Aside from William's MC being in Scorpio, these two planets are not very revealing when it comes to the significant signs in William's chart. However, these planets do further explain who he is (not the royal part). I don't doubt that there is a sense of fatedness/karma between them. But looking at the aspects, I see that she was going to marry someone she felt was a soulmate and that his standing in life would be important, possibly suffocating for one of them, their heritage would play a part, and that their lives would drastically change. With Saturn and Pluto in her 1H, it means that her life would change in the way that people see her and there would be no going backwards even if she wanted to. As a Libra Rising, with these two planets in the same sign and house, a wide audience would see her as beautiful and charming- two words that are hardly ever not associated with princesses.

As for William's chart, his Juno is in the same sign as Catherine's Sun, Capricorn (doesn't conjunct in their synastry). Possibly, for a man, Juno in the 1H means that he will look for a woman who is interested in being a wife and would be a good reflection of himself. Is she not? In the 1H, it is in Aries' traditionally ruled house and Catherine's DSC is ruled by this sign.

I'm finding that this kind of predictive astrology does not work the same way as for men. What I said for Catherine's chart is a bit more than I can say for William's.

As I was saying about his Juno placement, it's in the 1H in Capricorn. Juno's ruler, Saturn is in his 9H in Libra (Catherine's Rising sign). His Juno is conjunct his Part of Fortune which could also point to destiny and things changing for the better. They both have a Saturn connection. For William, its placement in his 9H points to meeting in a place of higher education. For both, this is a karmic connection.

On to his Moon, it trines his Pluto and Jupiter. Watch any docu-series about the couple and they usually say the same thing: she has helped him to relax. Pluto is the change and Jupiter is the peace. Also, they are learning from each other in how to deal with the media and royal/worldly etiquette. In his chart, Jupiter and Pluto conjunct in his 9H. In Catherine's, they are not far apart in her 1H and 2H. Aside from her Libra ASC, I don't see either planet revealing in important signs of major planets or angles when it comes to predictive astrology.

If anyone's interested I would like to say more and if you have anything to add on, please do. If it's confusing, I need a nap and will come back later to clarify anything. Just felt like getting back into astrology this morning.



This analysis is totally WRONG. No offence, but it is. Especially regarding Juno and angles.

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posted April 29, 2012 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is something really biting your butt, isn't there?

You could easily leave this thread as you have no valuable information to share. But no, you choose to start arguments with most who have commented.

There is something wrong with everything that you have said and you're not taking kindly to the fact that a number of people have pointed this out. Please go troll another thread and leave me alone. I have no problem with going to any of the mods or Randall about this. So, please have some dignity and leave me alone by not making further comments.

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posted April 29, 2012 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Juno, the MARRIAGE asteroid in her chart is in Sagittarius. His ASC is in Sagittarius. That means WILLIAM background is different than hers. Has nothing to do with the place they met. Vertex is the one that indicates fated events. The place where they met is COMMON place not different. Juno in third house, means a partner who talks a lot and is intelligent etc, a Gemini type. Will's descendant is SURPRISE in in Gemini.
Now, his Juno is in Cappy. Catherine's Sun. In first house means that their relationship was INITIATED by HER. I have this position and all my relationships were initiated by me. Now, first house being the house of Aries, Will's wife should be a fiery and impulsive Cappy with a childish look. Catherine DSC is in ARIES and she has a childish face regardless her age.

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posted April 29, 2012 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rosalind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Delilah:
There is something really biting your butt, isn't there?

You could easily leave this thread as you have no valuable information to share. But no, you choose to start arguments with most who have commented.

There is something wrong with everything that you have said and you're not taking kindly to the fact that a number of people have pointed this out. Please go troll another thread and leave me alone. I have no problem with going to any of the mods or Randall about this. So, please have some dignity and leave me alone by not making further comments.




First: I'm not trolling. Second: I thought you want to learn ASTROLOGY. Third: Why are so agressive and rude? What is your problem? Don't you want to learn? And also, you said that some of my arguments are off topic. We do discuss here about William and Kate, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge astrology matters right?

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posted April 29, 2012 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Delilah:
[b]There is something really biting your butt, isn't there?

You could easily leave this thread as you have no valuable information to share. But no, you choose to start arguments with most who have commented.

There is something wrong with everything that you have said and you're not taking kindly to the fact that a number of people have pointed this out. Please go troll another thread and leave me alone. I have no problem with going to any of the mods or Randall about this. So, please have some dignity and leave me alone by not making further comments.




First: I'm not trolling. Second: I thought you want to learn ASTROLOGY. Third: Why are so agressive and rude? What is your problem? Don't you want to learn? And also, you said that some of my arguments are off topic. We do discuss here about William and Kate, Duke and Duchess of Cambridge astrology matters right?[/B][/QUOTE]

I am learning astrology and you are the one who is being aggressive. I have fixed my mistake with an "*Edit". I recommend that you read all of your comments towards others to see your own aggression. How could I possibly take kindly to you disrupting the thread and saying that my entire analysis is wrong? I admit that there are a few typos, which I will correct, but not enough for the entire thing to be wrong. Maybe you should learn a little about traditional astrology to see where I am coming from before you say that I am entirely wrong. Sorry, but you should.

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