posted May 12, 2012 12:16 AM            

Her Venus is trine Mars. Exactly trine Neptune and opposite Pluto. And did I mention she has Venus in Taurus in the 5th H.

Also her Mars is conjunct Neptune and her Moon is square Venus to top it all off. So she is sexually impetuous emotionally.

Here is her chart:

posted May 12, 2012 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Planet Queen:
I'll interpret my friends chart because she is bonafide alluring she is very busty only gets sexual attention and she is in the sex industry that pretty much says it all.

Her Venus is trine Mars. Exactly trine Neptune and opposite Pluto. And did I mention she has Venus in Taurus in the 5th H.

Also her Mars is conjunct Neptune and her Moon is square Venus to top it all off. So she is sexually impetuous emotionally.

Here is her chart:

Plus she has Jupiter in the 5th H and that is also her chart ruler as well.

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Her chart is also HEAVY in earth, specifically her Capricorn stellium. Do you think this is a factor in her sexuality too? Taurus is in it's natural planet of Venus and if I remember correctly, Capricorn is dignified in Mars and so with these two in trine, this is very favorable for the love and sexual expression.

Earth=Sensuality

posted May 12, 2012 12:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Lazyscarecrow:
Her chart is also HEAVY in earth, specifically her Capricorn stellium. Do you think this is a factor in her sexuality too? Taurus is in it's natural planet of Venus and if I remember correctly, Capricorn is dignified in Mars and so with these two in trine, this is very favorable for the love and sexual expression.

Earth=Sensuality

Also, on a lesser note, I know a couple of earth dominant women who are busty/curvy in build...if they are not an Earth sign sun then they have it in their Moon or Rising.

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posted May 12, 2012 01:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
[B]I've seen the Ve/Ne sq work for sure (!) The only poss downside is being lost in a haze sometimes, your vision of your own attractiveness might be foggy, you might be bashful to admit your charms preferring some modesty/mystery. Allure strengthened when either is angular. That's just isolating this aspect.

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This is REALLY fascinating to me, because I have this square... and I've always had image issues. I never believed I was attractive, and I never understood why people would tell me I was. I took a long time and some growing up before I just started accepting it, but I'd agree with this "haze and fog" business to the max.

posted May 12, 2012 01:47 AM            

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Originally posted by beccathelion:
This is REALLY fascinating to me, because I have this square... and I've always had image issues. I never believed I was attractive, and I never understood why people would tell me I was. I took a long time and some growing up before I just started accepting it, but I'd agree with this "haze and fog" business to the max.

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Same here, and I have Venus square Saturn too. It has taken me a LONG time to work it. I still can't even look at myself dancing in the mirror when I'm home alone, but I'll act a fool out in a club. I'm nitpicky about my body and yet I console myself with food. Ursh.

posted May 12, 2012 03:23 AM            

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posted May 12, 2012 05:18 AM            

She has that, plus the ruler of her 2nd house (physical substance/ body) is trine her 1st house ruler (appearance, how she connects to the world) exactly, with her 1st house ruler being in 5th house as well.

posted May 12, 2012 05:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Ann7:
I'm guessing how one persons placement aspects another persons chart would have to do with whether or not you found each other attractive/ alluring?

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Absolutley. We are all people so different,, thanks god,, of course we also feel different about what we found attractive/alluring

posted May 12, 2012 07:01 AM            

when a man's chart is heavy on mars , that will give him a raw animal magnetism thus a high sexual allure , same goes for a woman with a chart heavy on venus, that will give her an exuding femininity and sensuality...

and also , pluto/venus aspecting ASC

I would say also mercury aspecting pluto or BML or both , gives a mesmerizing voice which adds the topping to the cake

posted May 12, 2012 07:26 AM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
In SOME cases 8H Mars can make one pretty sexually alluring, high sex drive and intensity with romance; but it can also make one have mixed feelings concerning sexuality, sometimes you have the high sex drive but you might feel the need to squelch it, also you could attract the wrong kind of attention and obsessive attractions depending on the rest of the chart.

Venus in aspect to Pluto is a biggie also. Especially Venus conjunct Pluto, which blends the two almost as one entirely new entity: a love nature which blends with the obsessive, passionate intensity of Scorpio. It can make you smolder and it can make some people intensely attracted to you. On the negative side I have read some with this aspect and other stress aspects have attracted stalkers and negative sexual attention WITHOUT trying.

Also, having the chart ruler/ASC's ruling planet conjunct Venus could sorta be the same but not as immediate. It'd still have some effect in making one seem desirable.

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I have Venus conjunct Pluto, in Scorpio, in the 12th house to boot, and I wouldn't describe myself as "alluring", or at least not in a good way. I'm constantly bothered by unsavory sorts of characters that you really would not want to be with, bad news sorts of people that would bring you down and ruin your life: thugs. I attract filthy, disgusting perverts, which gets on my nerves because I don't do anything to encourage that. It's to the point that I avoid going anywhere alone as much as possible.

I'm not attractive to the good, decent kinds of people, not for friendship or dates or anything else. At this point, I'm disinterested in dating, so that works out, but good people aren't interested in getting to know me at all. I cannot keep friends; it's literally impossible. I'm constantly shut out of leadership roles that I want, and that depresses me.

I have an 8th house position, but it's not Mars.

posted May 12, 2012 10:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
Sweet scorpion,

Are you a bona fide genius? You can tell us.

You just made me tear up because you hit the nail on the head so perfectly.

(Edited for brevity. She told it how it is, no point belaboring the issue. )

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Thanks Faith! Who knows, I could be. Never got that IQ test done but maybe I should in the future, haha. But in actuality I'm just super passionate about astrology too.

posted May 12, 2012 10:27 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I have Venus conjunct Pluto, in Scorpio, in the 12th house to boot, and I wouldn't describe myself as "alluring", or at least not in a good way. I'm constantly bothered by unsavory sorts of characters that you really would not want to be with, bad news sorts of people that would bring you down and ruin your life: thugs. I attract filthy, disgusting perverts, which gets on my nerves because I don't do anything to encourage that. It's to the point that I avoid going anywhere alone as much as possible.

I'm not attractive to the good, decent kinds of people, not for friendship or dates or anything else. At this point, I'm disinterested in dating, so that works out, but good people aren't interested in getting to know me at all. I cannot keep friends; it's literally impossible. I'm constantly shut out of leadership roles that I want, and that depresses me.

I have an 8th house position, but it's not Mars.

I have a grand trine in water, including my chart ruler.

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Does the Venus-Pluto conjunction touch your ASC? Is it within 3-5 degrees of it?

It seems that could be why you are attracting men you see as bad: weirdos, criminal-types, etc. etc. Since traditionally the 12th house can also rule prisons. So I'm trying to get a feel for this one and it seems that could be why you are attracting unsavory types, with the Venus-Pluto conjunction in the 12th of wards and prisons. Venus-Pluto conjunction, square and opposition even in other houses can make men leer at you and become obsessed with you in abnormal ways. So I feel you could have a double-whammy with the energies of this conjunction so concentrated in the 12th house, which is a difficult house to begin with.

I think one thing you need to focus on is the ability to make GOOD relationships and how to deal with not having any right now. Water grand trine makes you seem more on the sensitive-emotional side and you should try to let other people see that. I myself am very interested in being friends with these watery types. There ARE people out there who can be helpful friends too, who will try to understand your problems in life. For a long time I believed that I was unable to have any friends and was very bitter about the circumstances. I have 11H Jupiter in Scorpio, which can make Jupiter very dogmatic about what it believes. 11H is the house of not only dreams but friends/groups. But when I used Scorpio to let GO of these beliefs and regenerate, I did not suffer from the dogma anymore and began to have more and more friends.

So Scorpio can make one regenerate and let go. You should try to use its regenerative powers to cleanse yourself of these 'thugs'. It might be something you are subconsciously projecting due to misdirected Venusian energies from the 12H placement in combo with Pluto. For example, Angelina Jolie has 12H Venus and she always attracted strange men and had a lot of affair and bad crushes. But she eventually moved on from this and found a stable relationship. Her Venus was also in water so it was very emotional for her too, obviously; and in HER case, SHE was the one who went insane/went bad from the union, not the guys she attracted. I've read in books that (not sure if it's true or not, since biographies can lie but oh well) at one point, with the whole Billy Bob thing, she had to go to a mental ward because she had a nervous break down about him. And it seems in your case too, 12H Venus can make you wanna go a little crazy sometimes, right? It can be maddening to deal with.

I'm curious to see if you have any H11 Scorpio planets. This could lead to feeling unhappy about friends as well. I was almost thinking it'd be more appropriate for you to have H11 Pluto. If the conjunction isn't near your ASC, does your chart ruler aspect either or both planets at all? And also, is Pluto on the 'dark side' of the 11H, as in 1-4 degrees away from it?

posted May 12, 2012 10:39 AM            

In my chart, I have

-Venus in the 10th semi-square Mars and also semi-square Pluto.
-Eros conjunct my North Node in the 8th house.
-(dont know if this is a factor but someone mentioned it) Psyche is conjunct my ascendant
-Venus square Uranus in the 1st house.
-I don't have a Mars-Neptune aspect, but Neptune is the ruler of my 5th and it is in the 2nd house.

Also, according to my midpoints report, my Mars-Pluto midpoint is exactly conjunct Venus, but so is my Mars-Saturn midpoint because I have a Saturn-Pluto conjunction. I don't know if that would dampen the Mars-Pluto-Venus effect.

Also in the report Mars=Venus/Uranus midpoint, it squares it exactly.

For allure, I think of the 'power to attract'; keyword power, so that makes me think of Pluto. I would think that many Plutonian people would have that allure, (many but not all of them). I think there has to be other aspects besides simply having a strong Pluto. But probably Pluto in the 1st might have some allure. Also Venus in the 1st or 10th (or conjunct the Ascendent or Midheaven) would probably add to allure.

posted May 12, 2012 12:11 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Since Eros conjunct the Ascendant makes a person more alluring. What about Amor,Psyche, Aphrodite,lilith, lust,and Nymphe. Would they have a similar effect as the planets aspects to Venus, just to a weaker degree because their asteroids?

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Venus in Scorpio
Pluto in Scorpio
Eros in Scorpio
Sappho in Scorpio
Cupido in Scorpio
Lilith in Scorpio

Jupiter in Cancer
Lust in Cancer
Diana in Cancer
Chiron in Cancer

MC in Taurus
Amor in Taurus

Nymphe in Virgo

AC in Leo
Aphrodite in Leo

Amor is opposite the Scorpio group. Exact with Pluto.

All the scorpio is in a 13 degree spread.

All the scorpio sextiles Saturn and Neptune, with Uranus to a slightly lesser extent. Trines my Jupiter, Lust and Diana.

Nymphe Sextiles both the Cancer and Scorpio groups although a little loose.

Aphrodite on my AC square the Scorpio group and semi sextile the Cancer group.

Sun Virgo 29th
Moon Gemini 29th
Mercury Libra 4th
Mars Libra 1st

This bunch squares pretty much everything in my chart save the Scorpio.

My Cancer group opposes my Capricorn Saturn, Uranus, Neptune.

I don't know if I'm alluring or not. I'm still single so I can't be that alluring eh?

I've been asked some questions that are generally kept between two people who are seeking to get physically intimate with each other, in public group settings. I was a little surprised at the forwardness in such cases.

posted May 12, 2012 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Hm... Venus conjunct Neptune seems like it could be good for the emotional appeal. People would feel like they could pour out their hearts to you without feeling awkward. Or maybe your sympathies and affections for others are easily roused; it could go both ways for this one. I DO know that people with a strong Venus-Neptune are often very drawn to relationships... they often have elevated expectations or see something mystically desirable about being in a partnership. It's an inexplicable desire to give oneself to another that can over take them. So I believe in your case, perhaps since the conjunction landed in your 5th, your romantic partners and people interested in you could be hit hard by this conjunction on their end as well.

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Nice input, i also agree that you write very well beyond your years, good job! Anyway, do you think that these venus conjunct people have this tendency to just be interested in anyone who seems to be interested in them? Since they are so fascinated with the idea of being in a relationship?

posted May 12, 2012 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
[...] It seems that could be why you are attracting men you see as bad: weirdos, criminal-types, etc. etc. Since traditionally the 12th house can also rule prisons. So I'm trying to get a feel for this one and it seems that could be why you are attracting unsavory types, with the Venus-Pluto conjunction in the 12th of wards and prisons. Venus-Pluto conjunction, square and opposition even in other houses can make men leer at you and become obsessed with you in abnormal ways. So I feel you could have a double-whammy with the energies of this conjunction so concentrated in the 12th house, which is a difficult house to begin with.

I think one thing you need to focus on is the ability to make GOOD relationships and how to deal with not having any right now. Water grand trine makes you seem more on the sensitive-emotional side and you should try to let other people see that. I myself am very interested in being friends with these watery types. There ARE people out there who can be helpful friends too, who will try to understand your problems in life. For a long time I believed that I was unable to have any friends and was very bitter about the circumstances. [...] 11H is the house of not only dreams but friends/groups. But when I used Scorpio to let GO of these beliefs and regenerate, I did not suffer from the dogma anymore and began to have more and more friends.

So Scorpio can make one regenerate and let go. You should try to use its regenerative powers to cleanse yourself of these 'thugs'. It might be something you are subconsciously projecting due to misdirected Venusian energies from the 12H placement in combo with Pluto. [...]12H Venus can make you wanna go a little crazy sometimes, right? It can be maddening to deal with.

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First, I really want to thank you for your time; I really appreciate your intelligent response.

I do have Venus hitting my chart ruler. My chart ruler is trine Venus, Pluto, and the Moon.

I don't know honestly why I attract those types of people. They disgust me and I don't want them in my life. I don't speak to them if they speak to me. I don't dress in a revealing way--and I've been bothered even when I've worn pants, a long coat, and was sick, when I looked horrible. And I certainly don't approach them first. I wish that I knew how to get them away from me--they are disgusting and I don't want them in my life, I want them gone and far away from me.

My sun and Mercury are in the 11th, as are my MC and South Node. Loaded house there. I also have a t-square in my chart involving my cardinal sign planets. (I have a grand trine in water, too--I have both configurations in my chart).

As for people seeing my emotional side, I've learned from experience that people just don't like it. It's a defective part of me that people find unpleasant and repulsive. It honestly leads to some hidden and buried resentment on my part because I hate having to be a robot just to be tolerated, and I hate that I have to try to be content with shallowness and superficiality in a lot of relationships just to participate socially, which frankly I find a waste of my time and unsatisfying. I don't want a stormy, unpleasant relationship, but I would want a REAL and healthy friendship, not a surface-level one or an unhealthy one.

I would like to have friends, to believe that I could have friends, but based on how others are towards me, I don't know how to even begin to use the regenerative side of Scorpio in that way. I would be very interested in learning how to do that, but I have no clue how to really apply that idea in real life. I don't know how to get clean, decent, good people interested in friendships with me, the kinds of friendships that I actually want in my life (deep, meaningful ones that are healthy) and more importantly, how to make the friendships last and not royally muck them up. I don't understand how to meet people's demands and expectations. I don't know what they want from me.

posted May 12, 2012 06:16 PM            

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Originally posted by vickymadness:
I noticed not all the mars-conj-venus people are alluring , only the ones who got their cojunction in Water or Air were the literally alluring ones ...

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Alluring doesn't necessarily mean attractive. Did you mean attractive, or did you actually mean alluring?

The reason why I say this is because while my Mars/Venus is in Air... I'm not particularly attractive, but for some really weird reason guys like me... a lot. So much so that I feel uncomfortable talking about it because I feel like I'm bragging about it. But no, really it's really weird. They fall all over me, in flocks, and I'm ugly as a mule (imo).

posted May 12, 2012 08:10 PM            

Being alluring could definitely come in handy...