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Lonake
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posted May 12, 2012 10:35 PM
  
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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
I have Mars Conjunct Midheaven
Moon Square Mars
Sun Square Mars
These 3 the most. It ups your Mars go-getter/feisty quotient, which sounds a bit fiery  But on their own they're not the strongest indicators. But hard Mars aspects like these, esp conj a prominent angle do add to the Fire quotient.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted May 12, 2012 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
All I know is - They hate Aries people with a passion one would not expect from a fireless person, ironically.... (Although, if their Sun is in Air - there is *hope* - ever so slight.. but it's there!). Since I have an Aries Sun, I cary garlic around the fireless folk.. just in case I'm attacked, or 'back-stabbed', as that is their more preferred style 
Ooh. Sorry to hear that  I know some Fire voids that have strong Air, Sun + other personal planets. They admire Fire dominant people. But after a while they seem burnt out and need a break. Nevertheless the general attraction remains. The one that has the worst time of it has an Earth Moon & he keeps attracting Fire Moons lol. Poor guy.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted May 12, 2012 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
However,fire is hard to compensate.
What about Cardinal dominant? I've heard that it gives a fiery quality. What say you?
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Doux Rêve
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posted May 13, 2012 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by TrueTaurus:
Doux Rêve, so you have a Gemini Rising? I imagine gemini risings to be the life of the party, no? Are you guys very social at first, but prefer to chill in more low key surroundings and have conversations, than say, go clubbing?
I am an introvert.
I seldom go to parties and I'm definitely a loner. I can *appear* social and friendly, but I'd rather stay home or go out with one good friend. I have a Scorp stellium in the 6th and a Virgo Moon which override my ASC though. Plus Saturn is in the 11th so large groups of people are not my strong point.
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think water is worse and fire is next.
About Water void being unable to have a sensitivity to others' feelings: in my opinion they are still capable of empathy and can have strong feelings, but they may find it hard to express them or accept them. I still think Fire void is harder because in today's society drive and ambition are of utmost importance, and if you lack those you're pretty much set up for failure or underachievement. Feelings and sensitivity on the other hand are hardly desired traits, because they can hinder professional achievement. I do respect your opinion on this though, Ami!
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Originally posted by Lonake:
What about Cardinal dominant? I've heard that it gives a fiery quality.
I don't think it's similar to the Fire element, when I think of people heavily influenced by Cancer, Capricorn or even Libra, they don't seem that firey. They're more like quiet initiators, they know what they want and they take action to get it but it's not in-your-face like the firey types.
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Lonake
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posted May 13, 2012 04:31 AM
You're right, it's not in-your-face. Maybe they were referencing the take action quality then.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted May 13, 2012 04:44 AM
^ Probably!IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted May 13, 2012 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
What about Cardinal dominant? I've heard that it gives a fiery quality. What say you?
Fire and Cardinal are cousins,but one couldn't mistake one for the other
Both possess vision and the guts,but if anything Cardinal is more poised,controlled energy.
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Rosalind
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posted May 13, 2012 05:16 AM
Fire Void is the worst. These people lack action, are very shy and not very driven. They have issues in starting something and finish it. In this case progress and evolution are slow. Its not impossible though. Even with Fire Void they might have nice placements in chart that can help them be successful and happy in life.
The least worst is Air of course. Fire, Earth and Water Void are pretty diffucult. Fire means action, Water means emotions and Earth means reliablity and stability. People who lack AIR usually their have their own world in their mind and they are harder to understand because their mind is very complex. People who don't have Air void have a clear thinking, they know exactly what to do and they do not need to analyze much. But even with a chaotic mind you are still driven .In case of people with Fire Void, even if they have that clear thinking, they are not that spontaneous in getting things done. They have a some sort of fear in making mistakes, they fear that what they want its not possible. Next worst after Fire is Water. Water Void are pretty much for themselves, they are detached from others and they are capable on pass upon many to have their goal accomplished.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted May 13, 2012 08:16 AM
I don't think earth is that bad.It is not totally easy but seems to be the easiest of the 4.------------------
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Odette
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posted May 13, 2012 08:25 AM
The lack of earth can be worse for men, since it can point to difficulties in being self-sufficient. Society expects men to be independent financially & in other ways.. and to stand on their own two feet.The expectation is there to some extent, when it comes to women, but it is not as pronounced.
For instance - it's still more socially acceptable for a woman to be a 'stay at home' parent and to rely on her husband financially. But it wouldn't be as socially acceptable for a man to rely financially on his wife or gf. He would be called a mooch or a freeloader. ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted May 13, 2012 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
The lack of earth can be worse for men, since it can point to difficulties in being self-sufficient. Society expects men to be independent financially & in other ways.. and to stand on their own two feet.The expectation is there to some extent, when it comes to women, but it is not as pronounced.
For instance - it's still more socially acceptable for a woman to be a 'stay at home' parent and to rely on her husband financially. But it wouldn't be as socially acceptable for a man to rely financially on his wife or gf. He would be called a mooch or a freeloader.
True. I never thought of this. I am a woman, obviously. I have a career but I stayed home with children so never had the stress of being the main bread winner. How do you view the other voids, gender wise? ------------------
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affy
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posted May 13, 2012 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Rosalind:
Fire These people lack action, are very shy and not very driven. They have issues in starting something and finish it. In this case progress and evolution are slow. Its not impossible though. Even with Fire Void they might have nice placements in chart that can help them be successful and happy in life....
....In case of people with Fire Void, even if they have that clear thinking, they are not that spontaneous in getting things done. They have a some sort of fear in making mistakes, they fear that what they want its not possible.
Being a Fire Void, I totally agree with this. The ability to start something but not finish it is something I suffer with all the time.
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Ami Anne
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posted May 13, 2012 12:14 PM
Randall is a Fire Void who has accomplished a lot. I asked him about it. He said you have to work really hard to overcome a Void. What is funny is that the Voids can be the most successful in their Void area if they persist and persist.In fact,many earth voids are super successful,, financially. The overcoming of the void would produce a superstar in the area of the Void but the goal would be hard fought.------------------
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Moonfish
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posted May 13, 2012 12:22 PM
the only fire sign I have is Mercury Sag 9H. I also have Sun conjunct Mars that trines my Asc. I think the squares are more energetic, but I'm still pretty active nevertheless. but yes the aspects in your chart should help fill the void :]IP: Logged |
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