posted May 14, 2012 07:57 AM            

The quincunx is like an unwrapped present. The two sides of it do not blend such as a peach and a tangerine do not blend. However, they can be out together to make a nectarine(I think the fruit is lol)

The quincunx takes two very different things and gives you the opportunity to blend them. It takes a lot of work, attention and patience to do so. However, at the end you are rewarded with a new creation you could have never have foreseen ime

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posted May 14, 2012 01:06 PM            

The quincunx is a couple of things in a natal chart. It represents a latent potential for a sudden disturbance in a relative calm. And in order to rectify the problem, one may have to be willing to - make a considerable change to bring order back in a different way. The second thing about the quincunx aspect concerns transiting planets to your natal chart.

Explanation of Transits:
Everyone has an annual Sun Cycle that transiting planets will pass through. The Sun Cycle aspects are in a direct relationship to a person's natal aspects. The Sun Cycle aspects are in clusters and are permanently positioned at different spots between January 01 and December 31 of any given year. All Sun Cycle aspect clusters come in good groups, bad groups and, in weak and strong influences. The fast moving transiting planets will pass by the conjunction and opposition aspects once and all other aspects twice per year.

Transiting planets travel down hill, starting at January 01 and move downward towards December 31. Depending on the natal aspects, the transiting Sun will hit the Sun Cycle aspect clusters at the same time every year. The remaining transiting planets will take their sporadic positions relative to the transiting Sun's position on any given day. See slowpoke answer for example of planets downward movement: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213560.html

Your Situation:
The Semi-sextile (30 degrees) and Quincunx (150 degrees) are minor aspects in any natal aspect chart. But, they are to each other like a Conjunction is to an Opposition. A little known fact about these two minor aspects is that they make their greatest impact when transiting planets aspect your Sun Cycle aspects.

If you have either a Semi-sextile or a Quincunx, this is what happens. When VE and MR are in a trine position in your Sun Cylcle aspects - P will be aligned with VE and MR in a square position, this happens once. And when VE and MR are in a sextile position accepting transiting planets - P will again be in a square position directly aligned with VE and MR, this also happens once in the Sun Cycle aspect. The transit translation is; when VE and MR are in a positive position to suggest gain - the forces surrounding P will be in a destructive position to prevent the gain from the VE and MR influences. Your transit chart may show this occurrence. So, when you are in a position to have something good happen, a counter force is poised to take it away. (as mentioned above; this is when one may have to be willing to make a considerable change to bring order back in a different way.)

If you have either a Semi-sextile or a Quincunx, this is what happens. The flip is also true, when P is in a positive position - VE and MR may be in a directly aligned negative position. This will happen, again, once for the trine and once for the sextile of P.

posted May 14, 2012 03:56 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
a quincunx (or inconjunct) is half way between a trine and an opposition so you get a little of both. Usually it starts out as something you resist, but later find out that it was a blessing in disguise.

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posted May 14, 2012 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
I like the way you put it Ami thank u much. Is quincunx a minor aspect or which is the best way to put it?

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Thank you. Hmm, I am not sure about major or minor. It is not used to calculate Unaspected Planets, so maybe minor lol

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posted May 14, 2012 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
a quincunx (or inconjunct) is half way between a trine and an opposition so you get a little of both. Usually it starts out as something you resist, but later find out that it was a blessing in disguise.

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posted May 14, 2012 06:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
Is this a happenstance mysterious aspect? Even after a while with astrology I don't get it so can someone give an example?

...Is quincunx a minor aspect or which is the best way to put it?

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No, it is a Major aspect.

I wouldn't describe the quincunx as a 'happenstance' aspect. The only thing that makes it seem this way is that it tends to bring up into conscious or outward action potentials latent unconsciously within us.

The quincunx relationship and its principles can be seen by superimposing the 150-degree points over a horoscope blank using a hypothetical equal house chart (or just start with a natural flat wheel chart Asc = 0 Aries).

Look at how a 150-degree aspect to the Asc is set at 0 Scorpio/8th cusp, OR at 0 Virgo/6th cusp. This relates the unconscious/shared concsciousness matters of the 8th to the Asc, OR the body/unconscious/health matters to the Asc.

It is best to understand all aspect geometry with this template rather than getting over-specific and creating confusion later. Different planets will render different nuances and meanings. Pluto in quincunx with personal planets can relate to 'death', but Mercury or Venus relate more to the keyword so often used, 'adjustment' (in communication, relations).

posted May 15, 2012 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
No, it is a Major aspect.

I wouldn't describe the quincunx as a 'happenstance' aspect. The only thing that makes it seem this way is that it tends to bring up into conscious or outward action potentials latent unconsciously within us.

The quincunx relationship and its principles can be seen by superimposing the 150-degree points over a horoscope blank using a hypothetical equal house chart (or just start with a natural flat wheel chart Asc = 0 Aries).

Look at how a 150-degree aspect to the Asc is set at 0 Scorpio/8th cusp, OR at 0 Virgo/6th cusp. This relates the unconscious/shared concsciousness matters of the 8th to the Asc, OR the body/unconscious/health matters to the Asc.

It is best to understand all aspect geometry with this template rather than getting over-specific and creating confusion later. Different planets will render different nuances and meanings. Pluto in quincunx with personal planets can relate to 'death', but Mercury or Venus relate more to the keyword so often used, 'adjustment' (in communication, relations).

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What probable nuances and meanings can you decipher with my mars and venus which is a quincunx to pluto? Hope my birth data helps.

4.17pm
boston mass
june 17 1977

posted May 15, 2012 03:42 PM            

You have VE and/or MR quincunx (150 deg) your P. You, also, have MY semi-sextile (30 deg) your VE and/or MR.

You are not alone: most people have their own share of Quincunxes and Semi-sextiles.

I mentioned earlier, that these aspects play a large roll in your transits. Your VE and MR are in a cluster of aspects during the course of the year. So every year around the same time you can expect these clusters to happen. I have made note of the month and day - of any given year and what you can expect in terms of aspect influences. The progression of these aspect clusters are unique to your date of birth.

If you can follow the transiting Sun, you will find these aspects during the following month and days.
Note: 101 = Jan. 01 of any year; 1231 = Dec. 31 of any year.

Qunicunx (VE and/or MR 150 deg. P) influences:

101 - 105 the transiting Sun will: (trine VE and/or MR) square P

126 - 204 the transiting Sun will: (square VE and/or MR) trine P

628 - 707 the transiting Sun will: (sextile VE and/or MR) square P

729 - 808 the transiting Sun will: (square VE and/or MR) sextile P

1228-1231 the transiting Sun will: (trine VE and/or MR) square P

Semi-sextile (MY 30 deg. VE and/or MR) influences:

126 - 204 the transiting Sun will: trine MY (square VE and/or MR)

225 - 306 the transiting Sun will: square MY (sextile VE and/or MR)

729 - 808 the transiting Sun will: sextile MY (square VE and/or MR)

829 - 908 the transiting Sun will: square MY (trine VE and/or MR)

Please note, that on 729 - 808, both your MY and P influence your VE and/or MR at the same time.

What does all of this mean?

These are the days that you should pay closer attention to what you say and do, because the potential for having a reversal of fortune is greater at these particular times of the year This does not mean that bad things will happen, but the potential does exist.

Fortune Times:

The following month and days of any year suggest that, if you apply yourself, the potential for success with little stress is possible.

the transiting Sun on: 327 - 421

the transiting Sun on: 527 - 626 !!

the transiting Sun on: 929 - 1025 !

Best of Luck

posted May 15, 2012 06:41 PM            

The signs associated with the quincunx are VIRGO and SCORPIO….

THE VIRGO PART OF THE QUINCUNX

The ‘Virgo’ part of the quincunx refers to how this aspect is innately uncomfortable to start with, and so it inspires you to constantly move things around, rearrange our circumstances, re-negotiate terms, and adjust our affairs in the area of life related to the quincunx. The quincunx allows us to take a critical look at things, and then identify that with it not working well in our situation and what is counter productive. It then helps us, through an investigative process of trial and error, to work on figuring out the best solution to the discomfort in our lives. Or, at least how to adapt to this discomfort with out letting it impede our chosen path too much.

As you would expect, the ’Virgo’ part of the quincunx has to do with health issues, and figuring out the best way to deal with the practical reality of our daily lives. Things not working well with our bodies and health can sometimes be a source of embarrassment or shame. Like having a skin problem, or digestive issues that cause gas. These are not serious or life threatening, but most people would do everything in their power to ‘fix’ the problem. Quincunxes work like this. They are niggling malfunctions that may be embarrassing or uncomfortable to the extent that we can’t stand to ignore it anymore. So we investigate different face creams and acne treatments, and start taking digestives enzymes, and doing yoga to improve our digestion.

THE SCORPIO PART OF THE QUINCUNX

The ‘Scorpio’ part of the quincunx inclines people to be supersensitive to undertones, and weird vibes in situations. They can sense it if someone has inappropriate intensions, or perhaps they even feel uncomfortable about themselves in some way. And may worry that their own feelings are ‘inappropriate’ or embarrassingly unusual. The same thing when picking up on other people’s energy… Sometimes quincunx people can attract awkward vibes from others. This can relate to taboo issues, and things we’d rather not admit to. Like sexuality for instance….In this sense the quincunx can actually be quite a ’sexy’ aspect (in synastry or the natal chart). When this aspect is present in the natal or synastry, the people involved may feel somewhat uncomfortable with the intensity of their own attraction for another, and yet there is immense fascination and curiosity there… and a tendency to want to 'dig deeper' with that person. The aspect also has a type of enigmatic charisma nataly, like the person has something interesting and exciting hidden below the surface.

posted May 15, 2012 06:42 PM            

The WORST parts of the quincunx aspect are feelings of shame or embarrassment about not fitting in right in some way, or that you don‘t make sense in terms of the conventional view on things… This can be a very painful and lonely feeling. Before these people have leaned to deal with their natal quincunxes they may feel lame or ineffectual in the area of life related to the quincunx. Some examples might be…. Not fitting in socially (quincunx to 11th house ruler)…Not being good with money when all your friends are, or being unhappy with your body (quincunx to the 2nd house ruler)… feeling like the odd one out in your family (quincunx to the 4th house ruler)… and the list goes on.

The BEST parts of the quincunx aspect are the transformations that occur as a result of the work and adjustment that this aspect generates. And the amount of learning, wisdom and growth that goes with it… People with quincunxes often have a sophisticated understanding of the areas of life connected with their natal quincunx aspect. This is because they have often looked at these issues from EVERY possible angle and investigated and experimented with various different ways of dealing with these issues in their daily lives. There is nothing like a weird uncomfortable feeling to inspire you to figure things out and make changes, and the wealth of knowledge and understanding gained from this is the ultimate boon to be received from the quincunx.

posted May 15, 2012 07:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Robin Goodfellow:
What probable nuances and meanings can you decipher with my mars and venus which is a quincunx to pluto? Hope my birth data helps.

4.17pm
boston mass
june 17 1977

Thank you.

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Robin,

The quincunx aspect results from dividing the 360-degree zodiac by a non-whole number (2.4 or 2&2/5), therefore it is a standout and holds a lot of 'life lesson' within it. It generally indicates the evolution from one stage of a pattern to another, including developing a skill. This is particularly true with Pluto quincunxes, as in your case.

Venus-Mars quincunx Pluto:
Venus-Mars in Taurus quincunx Pluto in Libra indicates needing to learn to make adjustments in your sense of romance to accommodate appropriate interest. Learning to find appropriateness of privacy/respect. Finding healthy expression of sexuality and romance. This quincunx can take the alternating impulses of inhibition and inappropriate/fruitless expression of romance/sexuality.

The trick is patience, because you've got Venus in Taurus showing you the way. The two other factors, Mars-Pluto are in fallen positions here and will get you in trouble when you are feeling especially forceful. Divert that life force into something empowering, healthy, creative for you, rather than flirt with or attract someone whose character is exploitive.

There is a lot of creative potential inherent in this aspect and it is important to learn how sexual energy can be given creative outlet.

The Pluto quincunxes are slow moving and not as easy an 'adjustment' as the inner planets. You'll probably hit a point in your life (if you haven't yet) at which your previous sense of romance and sexuality has to die and give birth to something different. Unfortunately this is one of those quincunx combinations that can seem to attract exploiters until you learn the empowerment lesson inherent in it. Not as major as squares and oppositions, but it could only take one incident or close call to provide the lesson. Just don't flip over into suppression/avoidance patterns.

posted May 15, 2012 07:43 PM            

In your case turn the Venus-Mars end around exactly opposite as if it were at your Asc and see how Pluto is in the 6th house position (hypothetical). The empowerment part is about healthy habits and what is healthy for your body (6th theme), not merely exciting or pleasurable.

Understand that being attractive is something that YOU possess. Don't project it onto others 'they are so wonderful, magical'... and learn to use this power in a way that is healthy for you.

This one can involve some trouble in the bonding dept. It is important to understand Pluto quincunxes with far-sighted vision, as a process that involves a challenge that has to be overcome.

People with this kind of aspect can get into issues with bonding: either expression or accepting affection feels like too heavy/intense/personal a bond so you don't... or too eager and attract problems with healthy, balanced expressions of sexuality until appropriateness is well understood within yourself. That means what is appropriate for your needs, not just what is considered socially 'appropriate.'

posted May 16, 2012 01:18 AM            

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Originally posted by lalalinda:
a quincunx (or inconjunct) is half way between a trine and an opposition so you get a little of both. Usually it starts out as something you resist, but later find out that it was a blessing in disguise.

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posted May 16, 2012 06:13 AM            

Thank you for this thread on and information regarding quincunxes. The only aspect my 12th house natal Libran Pluto has is a tight quincunx with my 5th house Pisces Sun. It's an aspect I've sensed is important but which I haven't really been able to "get ahold" of. Your information's given me a bit more to mull.

posted May 16, 2012 09:10 AM            

When expressed well, there is a potential with this aspect to reach a deep level of understanding about very different sides of yourself, together with a sensitivity and an awareness of how to function in an unorthodox way. You learn to rely on your ability act intuitively and shift with the flow of energy between the planets which enables you to see multiple perspectives. You can literally see things from many angles - nothing is absolute. This field of uncertainty can open your perspective and understanding in extraordinary ways if you trust it and navigate it using your intuition to adjust course when obstacles arise.