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Topic: Are air signs bullies?
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sand
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posted May 20, 2012 09:59 PM
  
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Imagine that... the house of Gemini and Libra. LOL.
^so ur saying those r the culprits?  IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted May 21, 2012 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
^so ur saying those r the culprits?
I don't know about sole responsibility but they definitely deserve credit. IP: Logged |
Aquacheeka
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posted May 21, 2012 12:23 PM
I've been bullied by Geminis, but I've also been bullied at work by a Pisces (she bullied everyone). However the biggest bully I know presently, I have no idea what his sun sign is. I've also been bullied by a Scorpio with a Leo moon.All-in-all I'm going to have to say I haven't noticed this with air signs in particular, no. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted May 21, 2012 01:39 PM
Lol, I didn't mean that air signs are serious bullies. Air signs can't be, like serious anythings.Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if all the serious bullies were non-air IP: Logged |
Beautiful Disaster
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posted May 21, 2012 01:49 PM
I have noticed it also.IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted May 21, 2012 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by Beautiful Disaster:
I have noticed it also.
Okay, hi  Cool. Are you a pisces or a scorpio, or a cancer? like me? IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted May 21, 2012 07:28 PM
Aquacheeka made me think of something, RAS. Maybe you already declared it and I didn't catch on but what kind of bullying do you see/experience with air signs?I suppose I don't get bullied by anybody... maybe I'm the bully and never knew it. (Gem ASC, Aries Sun, Taurus Moon) IP: Logged |
Geminisquared
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posted May 23, 2012 09:31 AM
anyone can be a bully, usually they're either jealous of that particular person or they are just plain insecure. So yeah air signs can be bullies along with earth and water signs too lol..IP: Logged |
sc0rpioRising
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posted May 23, 2012 10:06 AM
All the girls that had bullied me in my life had one thing in common... they were all librans.... sorry not categorising all of them in one but thats my experience.IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted May 23, 2012 10:33 AM
^Lots of air females throughout high school were bullies or, at least, have bullied someone in some way. Gossiping, two-facing, even fist fights...air with the right placement of water and fire.My Libra bestest friend was a big bully in elementary. She has an unaspected Libra sun as an air singleton, Cancer-Leo cusp Mars. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted May 23, 2012 10:36 AM
Speaking of which, what air signs have been harassing you, Rassy? Or even what sex?IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted May 23, 2012 11:33 AM
The only bully I can think of is a Cap Sun. In elementary school, she shoved a kid's head into a fire extinguisher, simply because he "annoyed" her. She also says and does sh*tty things to people around her, now as an adult. Once she told everyone at her friend's birthday party that her friend had HPV and that she shaves her mustache... again, simply because she decided she was "annoying."IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted May 23, 2012 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by amowls**:
The only bully I can think of is a Cap Sun. In elementary school, she shoved a kid's head into a fire extinguisher, simply because he "annoyed" her. She also says and does sh*tty things to people around her, now as an adult. Once she told everyone at her friend's birthday party that her friend had HPV and that she shaves her mustache... again, simply because she decided she was "annoying."
Damn... 'roid rage?
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PixieJane
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posted May 23, 2012 04:50 PM
It occurs to me that while I've experienced bullies, it was rare in the extreme that I got to know them well enough to even know their sun sign (let alone any specifics). Just how is it that others here are privy to such info about their tormentors?  I could see it in the case of sibs and such, but I'd think it would be a lot more useful to compare their charts in their entirety (which should be known or easily found out in such a case). That is to say I think the planets in each other charts would have more to say on how they interacted than just a general star sign treating everyone around them with contempt. IP: Logged |
amowls**
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posted May 23, 2012 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Damn... 'roid rage?
Not even roid rage, just stereotypical "mean girl" personality. Think Regina George. She even had a sugary-fake voice. Anyway, as someone who is mostly Air and Fire, I have never bullied anyone. I'll put people in their place but only if they attack first. Growing up I never went out of my way to make people feel bad (I have a Pisces Venus, it breaks my heart) and I used to stick up for people who were bullied. I wasn't bullied either, probably because I never gave the reaction that bullies wanted. The first few months of middle school some girls tried to bully me but I just shrugged and didn't give them the time of day so they left me alone (it helps being a cerebral type). IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted May 23, 2012 06:26 PM
I thought most people noticed it, so I didn't really bother to explain much. Sorry about that. My fault.What I meant was that, after you've known an air sign for a while, they turn detached and prefer teasing you more than anything else. It's like they like to be distant rather than close. I didn't mean that they seriously bully you or anyone. It's all just teasing and poking fun, but in a way that's slightly hurtful. It's not serious at all. Just seems to me like a way to not have to get too close to someone. I really like Aquacheeka's thread. That is pretty much what I am talking about. Except that I mean it in the sense that they do it in their relationships. Not just with significant others, but close friends, too. I feel that just the same way they can make fun of society in a sort of crude way, they can also make fun of you and everything you stand for in kind of a crude way, because they don't take anything seriously. I did not mean they go shoving people into lockers. Bahahaha. I could actually, never see an air sign doing that. Maybe the most extreme kind of hurting they do is the fact that they're sweet at first, and then once they have you and they know you're attached to them and that you guys are close, they start the teasing. Nobody's been bullying me. Awww thank u RedScorp lol. I love my air sign friends. They are very very caring. They've also not hurt my feelings. The teasing is just being playful. It's not serious. It's just I've been trying to understand their tendency to stay distant for a while now. I actually appreciate that sometimes. Because I have always been able to feel comfortable in not feeling co-dependent or attached with my air sign friends. It's very comforting, because I feel I can keep my own identity and not lose myself. Usually, as a cancer, or I dont know what else it is in my chart, maybe venus square pluto, I dont know, I get TOO close to people. I attach myself too much, I merge with their identity too much, and lose my sense of self in the process, and honestly feel quite claustrophobic and stop contacting them for long periods of time. But usually with air signs, that doesn't happen that way. I tend to get closest to geminis, and sometimes I'll admit it can get quite sappy. They all give me nicknames after the first few weeks of talking to me and it does get sappy to the point of making me want to throw up sometimes haha, but then they stay distant. I just wish they didn't tease to remain distant, and did it in other ways instead. I'm really glad they try to stay distant. No, really! You're probably like "Oh, she's lying. She's a cancer. Why would she want that." But I would get claustrophobic otherwise! I think cancers want to be close to people, but then they run away because they dont know how to regulate the amount of closeness so that it says at an objective, practical level where both people retain their identities. I think air signs are good at bringing objectivity to everything, including putting boundaries on an overly emotional way of bonding in relationships. I just wish they didn't tease to remain distant, and did it in other ways instead. IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted May 23, 2012 06:36 PM
Okay, is there really no one out there who thinks this whole thread is kinda pointless? Or just, missing the point entirely? Why not say, 'Are Water signs abusers?' How about, 'Are Fire signs violent?' And, 'Are Earth signs sex addicts?' C'mon, guys. Part of why we do the astrology we do, investigating with the tools we use, to get as deep as we can, is so that we DON'T overgeneralise. Forgive me for saying so this bluntly, but this kind of 'let's lump a huge section of the zodiac into one category' crap is what's led to the propagation of newspaper horoscopes and othersuch nonsense. /end rant. Now. If anyone wants to SERIOUSLY evaluate, say, relational aggression in a chart, I'm all for that, and have no current hypotheses. And if we want to wrap up the 'bullying' argument, why not just look at Toro placement, and the Mars/Pluto and Mars/Saturn MPs and call it a day? -A.
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RunAroundScreaming
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posted May 23, 2012 06:44 PM
How come nobody says that on Aquacheeka's thread? I mean, I wouldn't want anyone to, because I think that's a brilliant observation she made. But, I don't appreciate the rant.IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted May 23, 2012 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I think Taurus and Libra end up being competitors because they're both ruled by Venus.
I totally second this. One of my best friends and I had a total Spy Versus Spy relationship all throughout our adolescence. Every now and again, it still pops up, but, oh, man ... back in school .... One of my close girl-friends is a Taurean, too. Oddly enough, we met through my husband, as he was dating her when he and I got back in touch and started dating. Everyone knew about everyone, though. He and I were long-distance, and he'd only recently moved to LA to be closer to her. Suffice it to say, they weren't right for each other, but she and I were FAST friends. It was scary! We still are. Even after she and my husband had a terrible falling out 2 years ago, she and I tried to keep in touch until it just became too complicated. Now, finally, we have everything all sorted out again. She's an astrologer, too, so we had a lot of fun exchanging stuff. We have a lot of respect and genuine love for each other. She's a bit like an older sister to me, (nine years my senior) and appreciates I'm always straight with her. My 2H Sun's dwad is Taurus, and (Scorpio) Moon's dwad is Leo. Her 8H Leo Moon's dwad is Taurus, with her 5H Taurus Sun's dwad in Libra. Yeah. We were clearly going to be friends - good friends, at that - sisterly type bond - even if we started out being 'competitors'. Such seems to be the case with my Taurean friends. -A.
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PixieJane
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posted May 23, 2012 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
they turn detached and prefer teasing you more than anything else. It's like they like to be distant rather than close. I didn't mean that they seriously bully you or anyone. It's all just teasing and poking fun, but in a way that's slightly hurtful
That's very different from bullying, but if it hurts your feelings I suppose I can see the confusion. I do that a lot, and me and my Aquarian BFF have played a lot of practical jokes together (and her jokes and snarkiness are often very Aquarian in nature). While I think my Sag has more to do with my joking around, my Libra placements do appreciate witty (but usually good natured) snarkiness, play on words, and unexpected twists. This can include poking a little fun at someone, but I find it pleasant when friends do that back at me. Me and my Aquarian BFF are constantly teasing each other and end up laughing over it. Given that we enjoy it it's hard to understand that others may find it hurtful or threatening though we have noticed that not everyone can handle it (and we usually try to leave those people out of our playful teasing). And the fact we find it fun to play with mental concepts and the like that way it helps us laugh and bond together. Of course my Sag Mars (and Moon) can make me more blunt than I should be at times...That is to say we don't do it to keep people at a distance but to amuse each other and bring us closer together. Of course we reserve that for close friends and the like as we expect they'd understand our humor and not be hurt by it (if a stranger said some of the things my Aquarian BFF said to me I'd take extreme offense, but it's funny coming from her because I know how her mind works and I know it's just fun and she wants me to laugh with her). And we do take things seriously, but it's nice to just relax and laugh about things sometimes...being thinkers we tend to get depressed about the insanity we see in society and if we didn't find ways to laugh then we'd cry. quote:
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as a cancer
Ah yes, I have a close Cancer friend and I learned not to tease him because I never knew when a chance remark might make him retreat into his shell and shun me for a long time. Unfortunately I recently found I have to also be careful of disagreeing with him in any way (which is generally way too confining for an air sign of any kind) and so I don't know if we're going to remain friends (at least close friends). If getting along with him means nodding and smiling without doing anything to threaten his feelings and self-worth then that means I can't find him fun to be around and that means from my perspective he's the one keeping me at a distance (though if I went ahead in teasing and/or debating him figuring he needs to develop a thicker skin then he'd just retreat from me and say I was the one keeping him at a distance). IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted May 23, 2012 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Usually, as a cancer, or I dont know what else it is in my chart, maybe venus square pluto, I dont know, I get TOO close to people. I attach myself too much.
Bingo. That's the ticket right there. YOU attach yourself too much, given your Water Sun, and Venus square Pluto. I've personally not experienced this behaviour outside of Fire Moons, and typically, then, largely Sag. Some Libran men can be quirky, but they usually have a Uranian influence to further that. Bottom line, it looks like it's more the way you're relating rather than any kind of stereotypical 'they are doing to me' syndrome. Check yourself, as they say. -A.
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IndigoDirae
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posted May 23, 2012 08:47 PM
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
How come nobody says that on Aquacheeka's thread? I mean, I wouldn't want anyone to, because I think that's a brilliant observation she made. But, I don't appreciate the rant.
I'm unfamiliar with 'Aquacheeka's thread' to be honest. -A. IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted May 23, 2012 09:38 PM
PixiJane, it's not so shocking to me that it would hurt my feelings and make me want to stop talking to them.It's just confusing to me. I don't find it funny lol. It's disorienting to me if anything. You not being able to disagree with someone? That's ridiculous. Do you think it might be maybe the way you're saying that you disagree? IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae
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posted May 23, 2012 10:18 PM
'That's very different from bullying, but if it hurts your feelings I suppose I can see the confusion.'What PixieJane said. Seems more to me like a sensitivity issue rather than an 'Air signs are bully' overgeneralisation statement. -A. IP: Logged |
MessyLilLeo
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posted May 23, 2012 11:27 PM
I was just browsing some of this and thinking "not so much", and then I remembered my little Gemini bestie from high school. I used to think it was so funny, but she would single out guys and pick on them. One was a little fella, he probably weighed around 80 lbs, and she would shove him into his locker and stuff. The other guy she picked on, I think she liked him. He would always blab about his tae kwon do skills, and she would get really rough with him and say really demeaning things! Otherwise, she was just a gem (ahaha, no pun intended) to know!IP: Logged | |
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