posted May 24, 2012 10:30 PM            

I have done articles on various planets and asteroids and what they do when they touch other planetary bodies. Pholus explodes what it touches. If Pholus touches Chiron( the planet of pain), the person will explode with pain. This explosion can be verbal or written. However, you will know as it will be like projectile vomiting . I have known people with Pholus conjunct Ceres(unconditional love). They explode love in a way that is utterly amazing. You feel as if you are sitting under a shower of acceptance.. Jupiter expands what it touches and makes it sunny and optimistic. If Jupiter touches Venus, the person’s love nature is expanded. This is a beautiful feeling for those of us on the receiving end. You will feel Jupiter conjunct Venus as it’s love feels very encompassing . You feel showered with warmth. Saturn restricts, cools, and makes insecure what it touches. If Saturn touches the Sun, your identity suffers and you have low self esteem.

Neptune dissolves what it touches. If Neptune touches one’s Sun, one may have poor boundaries. One’s self becomes amorphous. Neptune conjunct the Sun is classic for addictions as one’s self has a great deal of pain. A self was meant to be solid, not diffuse. A diffuse self is a mentally ill self. One must look at the House placement of Neptune, too. Neptune will dissolve the domain of the House in which it resides. If Neptune is in the first house, one’s identity suffers from lack of boundaries and angst about who one is. If Neptune is in the second house, one may not see the way in which to provide for one’s material needs. Neptune makes foggy what it touches. It makes the way to deal with the house in which it resides, unclear. One may feel as if one cannot grasp the ways and means to conquer the affairs of the House, such that one can live with equanimity, in this sphere of life. Please, check out each house and what it rules to see how Neptune would impact it. If you care for me to write about each house, specifically, let me know and I will.

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posted May 24, 2012 10:32 PM            

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posted May 24, 2012 10:53 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I have sun in the twelfth which is similar to sun Neptune, I think these two are extremely painful cards to be dealt. I wouldn't say it dissolves your self exactly, I still inwardly have a very strong personality and ego to rival any fire sign's, but it sure takes a beating. I feel like I have never been encouraged the way I see others receive it, so I have low self confidence and people wonder why that is, and I am left feeling. misunderstood.the only bright spots for sun Neptune or sun in twelfth is compassion and the self reliance you develope after you l

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Yep, have you seen my articles on 12th House planets?

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posted May 24, 2012 10:56 PM            

One must address the 12th House planets. Only service and sacrifice works

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posted May 24, 2012 11:10 PM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yea I know, I love helping people, I really do, but there's suffering there as well, for people take advantage of my good nature and don't appreciate the things I do.

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Totally! It is hard. There is no way around 12th House planets. People with them live a different slice of life due to them. Which House has Leo on the cusp?

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posted May 25, 2012 12:27 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Oops, forgot. Right now, t.Neptune is in conjunct with my n.Saturn. I have Saturn at 2 degrees Pisces. I thought it would be much worse, but so far, not so bad. If anything, I find myself taking things not so seriously, and I'm heavily focused on looking at things one day at a time. All the forward-thinking stuff and far-ranging planning I would always do seems to be gone. Or at least I don't worry about it so much. Don't know if that's all a factor of the conjunction, or not. I find it a bit easier to feel spiritual, too. n.Saturn is in my 11th house, though.

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posted May 25, 2012 12:30 AM            

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posted May 25, 2012 12:42 AM            

I'm all for simplicity, but this is a bit oversimplification to the point of losing meaning, IMHO.

Granted, my Sun is in a tight conjunction with Pluto as well, (2*) but my sextile to Neptune's actually even closer. I'm just still not able to throw down with this interpretation.

I WILL throw in on the 12H-Sun discussion, however. I DO believe these individuals have a harder-than-usual time with setting boundaries, given their innate desire to help others. Of course, this can lead to a hell of a downfall, given the advantage that's (often) taken, and the greater than average need for solitude which is rarely granted, since they're always caretaking.

There's a similar effect for 12H-Venus, but it operates somewhat differently, and obviously more regarding interpersonal bonding than the development of a strong sense of self.

posted May 25, 2012 12:43 AM            

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Originally posted by CosmicKarma360:
Ooohhh... You must be pretty serious. Gosh, n.Saturn in the 12th doesn't sound like a total picnic, either. Do you get depressed much?

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posted May 25, 2012 01:03 AM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I have Neptune in the 7th, 8th if I use whole signs.

This coupled with Mars in the 12th (which I love your article on by the way!) is the reason I am SO clueless when it comes to handling my relationships or courting processes with men. I mean I am lost. I've just been sticking to being neutral because I am never sure when someone likes me, and just afraid to say (I intimidate people without realizing it) or they are being friendly, or what their intentions are... I get blamed for overanalyzing a lot but only if they understood WHY!

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posted May 25, 2012 01:33 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yea haha I just feel like saying to hell with dating or relationships. I really am damned if I do damned if I don't, I'm either too clingy or I don't care enough,I try too hard or I don't try hard enough, I call or text too much or I don't enough, I'm too affectionate or not affectionate enough, haha I think ya'll get the point XD.

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posted May 25, 2012 01:49 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I can relate,even though I don't have any of the placements you mentioned but my Venus is badly afflicted.I feel like I'm damned if I do and damned if I don't when it comes to dealing with women.

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Where's your Venus placed, Aquaguy?