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RegardesPlatero
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posted June 09, 2012 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*edit*

I think that I get it now.


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posted June 09, 2012 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@RP;

The numbers on the left are the degrees of the sign. If you had a planet at 3 degrees Aries, look in the column that begins with the Aries symbol.

Then, going down, you will find that the planet at 3 degrees is in the Taurus duad because, for Aries, 2 and a half degrees to 5 degrees is Taurus.

If that planet was in Taurus, however, at 3 degrees...the duad would be Gemini, you see?

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posted June 09, 2012 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
@RP;

The numbers on the left are the degrees of the sign. If you had a planet at 3 degrees Aries, look in the column that begins with the Aries symbol.

Then, going down, you will find that the planet at 3 degrees is in the Taurus duad because, for Aries, 2 and a half degrees to 5 degrees is Taurus.

If that planet was in Taurus, however, at 3 degrees...the duad would be Gemini, you see?


just to be sure that I got it:

if a number is listed on my chart as being (again, using fake numbers) 1 Libra 1'11"

is the first 1 (before the word "Libra") the degree? or is the degree the second 1, right after the word "Libra", in that example?

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posted June 09, 2012 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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also, looking at a chart, I see that a number is written like this (using just the number one as an example, which isn't the real number):

1 Libra 1'11"

so, what number do I look at?


1 degrees Libra would be the first duad. On the left, it says 0 - 2 1/2. That means 0 degrees to 2 degrees, 30'00", you see?

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posted June 09, 2012 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pandacake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 09, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
1 degrees Libra would be the first duad. On the left, it says 0 - 2 1/2. That means 0 degrees to 2 degrees, 30'00", you see?

I think so...

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posted June 09, 2012 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm curious, RegardesPlatero, not to sound condescending or anything! But I suppose you are not a numbers person...? Or maybe it is that you are not a visual person? Personally, I'm great with numbers and with visuals, so that chart reads like bold print to me.

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posted June 09, 2012 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not a numbers person.

Plus, honestly, I was hoping for a different one than I got

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posted June 09, 2012 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pandacake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ Well at least you're great with words. You can also go down or up the list with 2,5° increments.

Interesting! Mine are:
Scorpio Sun duad and Pisces Moon duad: I have Scorpio Moon and several Neptune aspects to my personal planets.
Aries Ascendant duad: I do often come across more harsh or brash than I would like. Leo Mercury.
Aquarius Venus: I suppose I am detached ...
Taurus Mars: I'm slow.

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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
(...) I won't say this certainly, but I've noticed that Aries-dwad / decanate seems to be synonymous with slightly offensive, (...)

Lol count me in.

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posted June 09, 2012 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hopefully some are better than me at explaining how to calculate duads.

RegardesPlatero, if you are still a bit confused with the link to the duad table try this one where alice Portmann explains duads
http://aliceportman.com/calculating-duad-and-dwad-charts/

If you scroll down below there is a duad program to calculate the exact degree of your duads, all you have to do is to enter the degree and sign of the planet concerned

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posted June 09, 2012 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well according the chart in my purest form I am a Gemini moon, Gemini Decan and Gemini Duad. Yeah that explains things......

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posted June 09, 2012 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Whataya mean by purest form...?

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posted June 09, 2012 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
edit

used the duad calculator!!!

I DID IT!!

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posted June 09, 2012 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pisces duad mars
scorpio duad moon
scorpio duad mercury
cancer duad AC
aries duad sun

I'm more watery than I thought lol

but I don't think this applies to me

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posted June 09, 2012 05:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ueharaa:
thank you for sharing this.
Yes It seems that people can identify a lot with their duad signs. Discovering them was to me as i I could finally put the pieces of the puzzle together in understanding my own behavior.
And just like you, my cpricorn moon is in the scorpio duad and I am very attracted to scorpio moons and I do get along very well with them (better than fellow caricorn moons) but not so much scorpio sun.
And yes I do think that if your decan and your duad don't share basic affinity it might be difficult to express it in an harmonious way.

As for appearance and first impressions, this is what impresses me the most. Duads really seem to play a very important role in it.
I remember this guy who I was convinced was a Leo or had some leo in his chart. Everything in his behavior just screamed Leo especially in the way he presented himself. Well he has no planets in Leo but it turns out that his sun is in the leo decan and in the leo duad so it seems I could very easily pick up this energy.
For your virgo moon in the aries duad, do you mean that it is conjunct your ascendant in aries, or in virgo? Or do you mean that you aries duad moon conjunct you aries duad ascendant ?


Me too! I feel the exact same way. They really clarified some things for me, that I didn't understand, like the Aries Moon thing.

I've also noticed that having double Aries (decan and duad) on my ASC explains why I appear much more fiery than I really am. I think it also contributes to how I was very prone in youth to having facial scars.

I agree, I feel like the duad in your Moon can be especially sensitive since the Moon rules our deep, innermost emotions. Two of my closest friends are Cap Moons and I have my Moon in the Cap decan too. I find some of my favorite people have Aries or Cap Moons, yet weirdly as I've said I can often not handle straight-up Aries Sun people, and I've never gotten along intimately with Cap Sun people. Maybe I feel emotionally understood when people have these Moon signs?

That's an interesting story about your Leo friend - I have the exact same circumstance and I am a lot like an Aqua! My personality is extremely Aquarian (along with Scorpionic). I never knew why beyond having H11 planets why, but it turned out I have the same circumstance, Sun in the Aqua duad AND decan. It really does add this underlying Aqua tone to me. I can see how that'd be the same for your Leo friend.

For my Moon I have it in the Aries duad, Cap decan, square my Ascendant. It's adding a lot of Arian feelings to who I am, also to my Moon.... since the ASC and the Moon seem to stress these energies in the potent square. It can make me emotionally repressed and then, explosive.

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posted June 09, 2012 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I wouldn't attribute that to the Sag dwad at all. That's your 11H Mercury, straight-up. The Sag gives a more philosophical bent, need for freedom, and you probably communicate in a bigger way than you would with a (Scorpio? Libra?) Mercury. Gesturing, wittier, probably have some foot-in-mouth moments, too. More blunt than you'd otherwise be.

I know that's how my Aries-dwad colours my Scorpio Mercury. My best friend is an insult comic. Most are offended, even with how charismatic he puts it across, though they don't say it, knowing he doesn't -mean- to offend. I attribute my ability to throw it right back at him to the Aries-dwad. It's (one of the reasons) why we work so well together. That double Sag can be something fierce - especially as his Sag Merc is -also- Aries-decanate.

I won't say this certainly, but I've noticed that Aries-dwad / decanate seems to be synonymous with slightly offensive, a bit over-the-top, but very charismatic, dry humour. Especially when it's coupled with Sag. I've seen that across the board - mainly in men, occasionally in women.

-A.



Yeah, I agree. I just think having it in the Sagittarius duad makes me 'expand' on those 11H qualities, which makes me also very philosophical, but having a tendency for 11H traits to show up very prevalently in my Mercury; since Jupiter makes larger and more prominent what it touches. So maybe having it in this Sadge duad would make my H11 traits very pronounced in the way I think!

I am an extremely deep thinker too. I think as you said, the Sadge duad definitely contributes to this. Philosophy and psychology come so naturally to me. I also have a very blunt sense of humor, and kind of eccentric too, combine Sadge with Aquarius and I guess that's the result. I can be very... lewd at times, LOL. I have no problems swearing up a storm casually and then just as easily going back to normal. I see cursing most of the time as no biggie and it really rubs some people the wrong way. I have a semi-abrasive sense of humor and can make very dark jokes, but I have a knack at cracking people up when I get in a funny mood.

You hit the nail on the head when you said that this duad and house placement can make me way straight-forward compared to other people with Scorpio Mercury. I actually get kind of annoyed/offended when other Scorp Mercury people take a long time to think and respond to my questions, since I like a steady rapport and it makes me a little antsy to wait and wait for someone to reply to what I say. So I've noticed I am definitely unlike other Scorpio Mercury people in this regard.

Yeah, I think Aries duad really adds something charismatic but sometimes in-your-face and a little offensive or startling to someone. Emotionally and on the surface I can be this way. I have my ASC in the Aries duad and decan, and my chart ruler Jupiter is in the 11th house conjunct Venus. People are sometimes shocked or totally fascinated with the unique way I dress, yet in a way where I remain looking good while I do it. I can be very straight-forward in the way I present myself and have no qualms about dressing in a way most people in my regular town would consider eccentric. At least I look great doing it!

I think the Aries duad on my Moon makes me inclined to be emotionally explosive and a little feral compared to other Virgo Moon people. If so, that explains A LOT about why I am not really easily guessed to be a Virgo Moon. In the respect to charisma, I can be quite charming when I want to be too. My Moon squares my ASC and I can hide behind fiery charm and confidence but inside I can be rather neurotic and cold.

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posted June 09, 2012 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
guess what sign is my sun duad...

SCORPIO.

I don't dislike Scorpio as a sign, but man...Pluto there, Venus there, they're in the 12th and conjunct, AND my sun duad is there? Ha...I have both Libra-on-steroids AND Scorpio-on-steroids in my chart.

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posted June 09, 2012 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
^Whataya mean by purest form...?

The lack of Decan or Duad dilution,therefore a stronger manifestation of my Gemini moon.

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yeah I was right, it doesn't represent a part of your personality, just the sign you're attracted to in each placement ...(e.g): moon in gemini in the scorpio duad; you are attracted to people with scorpio moons and I think that explains why a tight conjunction less than 2 degrees between the same two planets in a synastry is very strong
http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques/100930.html

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posted June 10, 2012 04:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Duad-to-natal synastry is much more powerful and often more compulsive than natal-to-natal synastry and is the precursor to natal synastry. If the duad or dwad
connections to each other's natal are not there, you are just not very drawn to that person regardless of how powerful your natal to natal synastry seems.

If there are exact degree connections in duad to natal synastry, then the relationship and/or association tend to be close. It will strongly respond to transits over that
degree.


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posted June 10, 2012 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer Venus in Sag Duad... Well,that explains a lot...

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