posted May 31, 2012 05:43 PM            

I was wondering ever since, how do duads manifest themselves in our personality and inner make-up? Do we actually act more like our duads signs than the radix signs ? And how can we interpret them in synastry: with our own tropical chart, or the one of another.
Also,do you think they have a role in first impressions ?

posted June 02, 2012 02:33 AM            

I think they're very important and they enlightened me quite a great deal. I had many aha moments when studying dwads.

posted June 02, 2012 02:34 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
Scorpio Sun in the Taurus-Libra duad! That's a double Venus and I certainly have Venusian twists to my personality (vanity, superficiality, socially graceful )

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posted June 02, 2012 05:06 AM            

Alice Portman makes this differentiation:
Dwad: every subsign begins with 00 Aries

Duad: every subsign begins with 00 degrees of the sign the planet is in

posted June 02, 2012 05:06 AM            

Alice Portman makes this differentiation:
Dwad: every subsign begins with 00 Aries

Duad: every subsign begins with 00 degrees of the sign the planet is in

posted June 02, 2012 06:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hera,

Alice Portman makes this differentiation:
Dwad: every subsign begins with 00 Aries

Duad: every subsign begins with 00 degrees of the sign the planet is in

I think I do identify with Duads, yes.
Sag Sun in Libra Duad
Aqua Moon in Leo Duad
Cappy Venus in Pisces Duad
Sag Mars in Aqua Duad
Sag ASC in Aqua Duad.

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Ohhhhhhhhhhh, long live Alice Portman!!! Duads it is then!!! Yay!

My inner self (duad self) is definitely more passive-aggressive than the outer me, with a vengeful strike (Scorpio Moon), but most likely will not do anything about it (Pisces Mars). Makes sense for the procrastinator in me and my occasional indecision (Libra Asc). Sag Venus allows me to not be as jealous as Taurus Venus are usually. My MC is in the Cancer duad ^_^

posted June 02, 2012 10:47 AM            

Ceridwen, thanks for enlightening me on the differences between duad and dwads. I am than definitely referring to dUads

Hera, I like the way you put it with this inner self and outer self distinction.

I myself am a cap sun aries duad, cap moon scorpio duad, cap mercury scorpio duad, aqua venus aries duad, sag mars pisces duad and cancer ascendant in the aries duad and I've always identified with the scorpio energy (delving deep into oneself, analysing things until I get to the core of it...) and aries "combativeness" but my tropical (radix?) placements fit for me too. I don't know which is my inner self or which is my outer self, but I definitely feel that people when first meeting me pick up on my duad signs more easily than the tropical signs.

It'd be great if you could share how you think you express your duad signs compared to how you express you tropical signs.

Do you think it is more of an undertone in your behavior (which would be definitely rules by your tropical signs) or does it look more like your core behavior is your duad sign, and you express it through the tropical sign. As if for example if you're an aries sun in the libra duad, you would be expressing the libra energy in an aries way.
I have no idea if I'm being clear with what I'm writing right now.

posted June 02, 2012 11:15 AM            

It`s not always completely on spot, but often it is quite fitting.

posted June 08, 2012 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I have a book by Sakoian and Acker, "Decanates and Duads", who interprete each degree.

It`s not always completely on spot, but often it is quite fitting.

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oh, does it interpret each degree for each duad of each sign? I mean, are the interpretations different for X degree aries duad of libra and that same X degree aries duad of capricorn?

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I find that it works with who you attract, too. My Sun dwad is at 21 Virgo and I find lots of people around me have their Moons or Ascendants around there.

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posted June 08, 2012 12:12 PM            

I have a Virgo Moon, H9, in the Aries duad. I am sometimes very attracted to Aries moons, over Aries suns. Suns, I do not get along with as well but Aries moon I surprisingly get along with very well. I think this is another reason why I can be more emotionally 'intense' than a traditional Virgo Moon is supposed to be. I also think this is why on the 'guess my Moon sign based on my eyes' post, everyone thought I was an Aries moon!

I have Libra Sun, H10, in the Aquarius duad AND decan. I think this is what makes me very compatible with Aqua suns, one factor among many... coupled with 11H stellium. The way I present myself is much more in-your-face and rebellious than a traditionally harmonizing Libra, but I still do have Libran tendencies.

Finally, I have my Mercury in the Sagittarius duad. It's very enlightening to see this is why I think in an extremely future-oriented fashion. Combined with having my Mercury in H11, I'm sure this is why I have always been extremely adept with technology...and I type at lightning speed with only 2 fingers! I think having my Mercury in a fire duad adds an extra boost of energy to my thinking. I can be EXTREMELY heated and, as about.com says for a negative Sadge Merc, 'preachy' at times. As in, bossy as hell. LOL.

posted June 08, 2012 12:16 PM            

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Originally posted by ueharaa:
It's so great having so many people relating to their duds signs.

Do you think it is more of an undertone in your behavior (which would be definitely rules by your tropical signs) or does it look more like your core behavior is your duad sign, and you express it through the tropical sign. As if for example if you're an aries sun in the libra duad, you would be expressing the libra energy in an aries way?

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Very good insight. I was just thinking the same thing. Duads add another dimension of important energy to our planet's sign and decan. I feel like the decan and duad blend into one, but sometimes not so smoothly... so it can be difficult having a duad in Aqua for example, and then a decan in Scorpio. The two don't blend so your inner energies might have trouble being expressed.

posted June 08, 2012 01:25 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I love the duad concept. I think it adds an extra, special dimension to the planets!

I have a Virgo Moon, H9, in the Aries duad. I am sometimes very attracted to Aries moons, over Aries suns. Suns, I do not get along with as well but Aries moon I surprisingly get along with very well. I think this is another reason why I can be more emotionally 'intense' than a traditional Virgo Moon is supposed to be. I also think this is why on the 'guess my Moon sign based on my eyes' post, everyone thought I was an Aries moon!

I have Libra Sun, H10, in the Aquarius duad AND decan. I think this is what makes me very compatible with Aqua suns, one factor among many... coupled with 11H stellium. The way I present myself is much more in-your-face and rebellious than a traditionally harmonizing Libra, but I still do have Libran tendencies.

Finally, I have my Mercury in the Sagittarius duad. It's very enlightening to see this is why I think in an extremely future-oriented fashion. Combined with having my Mercury in H11, I'm sure this is why I have always been extremely adept with technology...and I type at lightning speed with only 2 fingers! I think having my Mercury in a fire duad adds an extra boost of energy to my thinking. I can be EXTREMELY heated and, as about.com says for a negative Sadge Merc, 'preachy' at times. As in, bossy as hell. LOL.

I love the duads. I think they are very telling about the important undertones of our planets. Overall, mine are so true. I won't list all of them but I really identify with all!

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thank you for sharing this.
Yes It seems that people can identify a lot with their duad signs. Discovering them was to me as i I could finally put the pieces of the puzzle together in understanding my own behavior.
And just like you, my cpricorn moon is in the scorpio duad and I am very attracted to scorpio moons and I do get along very well with them (better than fellow caricorn moons) but not so much scorpio sun.
And yes I do think that if your decan and your duad don't share basic affinity it might be difficult to express it in an harmonious way.

posted June 08, 2012 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Very good insight. I was just thinking the same thing. Duads add another dimension of important energy to our planet's sign and decan. I feel like the decan and duad blend into one, but sometimes not so smoothly... so it can be difficult having a duad in Aqua for example, and then a decan in Scorpio. The two don't blend so your inner energies might have trouble being expressed.

I feel like duads are our deep, inner 'soul' energies for the planet, and can come out in the most unexpected, subtle ways. EX, I just said I have Virgo Moon contacting my ASC in the Aries duad, and most people think I am an Aries (or fire) Moon. So maybe it affects the way you express the planet's core energies, or maybe it can even affect appearance if it touches your rising sign's ruling planet, or the ASC itself.

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Oh, that makes sense, actually. I'm a Virgo rising (Capricorn decanate, Capricorn duad). I don't -think- I give off 'Capricorn'. But with my Virgo 12H Venus, it's Virgo decanate / Sag dwad. I guess I DO give off a Sag nature. I attract a LOT of Sag-influenced types: Sun, Moon, and ASC.

Definitely worth further investigation.

posted June 09, 2012 01:30 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Hera,

Alice Portman makes this differentiation:
Dwad: every subsign begins with 00 Aries

Duad: every subsign begins with 00 degrees of the sign the planet is in

I think I do identify with Duads, yes.
Sag Sun in Libra Duad
Aqua Moon in Leo Duad
Cappy Venus in Pisces Duad
Sag Mars in Aqua Duad
Sag ASC in Aqua Duad.

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posted June 09, 2012 01:39 PM            

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Lol, what do u mean by Tau-Libra dwad?? Which one is it lol?

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posted June 09, 2012 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Finally, I have my Mercury in the Sagittarius duad. It's very enlightening to see this is why I think in an extremely future-oriented fashion. Combined with having my Mercury in H11, I'm sure this is why I have always been extremely adept with technology...

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I wouldn't attribute that to the Sag dwad at all. That's your 11H Mercury, straight-up. The Sag gives a more philosophical bent, need for freedom, and you probably communicate in a bigger way than you would with a (Scorpio? Libra?) Mercury. Gesturing, wittier, probably have some foot-in-mouth moments, too. More blunt than you'd otherwise be.

I know that's how my Aries-dwad colours my Scorpio Mercury. My best friend is an insult comic. Most are offended, even with how charismatic he puts it across, though they don't say it, knowing he doesn't -mean- to offend. I attribute my ability to throw it right back at him to the Aries-dwad. It's (one of the reasons) why we work so well together. That double Sag can be something fierce - especially as his Sag Merc is -also- Aries-decanate.

I won't say this certainly, but I've noticed that Aries-dwad / decanate seems to be synonymous with slightly offensive, a bit over-the-top, but very charismatic, dry humour. Especially when it's coupled with Sag. I've seen that across the board - mainly in men, occasionally in women.

posted June 09, 2012 02:12 PM            

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how do you find yours?

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posted June 09, 2012 02:15 PM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
If you're asking about finding out your dwads, I just posted a link about two comments up.

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::headdesk:

found you post, but I'm confused

the "duad" thing on the left--is that degrees? as in, what degree your sun is?

also, looking at a chart, I see that a number is written like this (using just the number one as an example, which isn't the real number):

1 Libra 1'11"

so, what number do I look at?