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Topic: Insecurities in the natal chart ??
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lovehate122
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From: Ireland
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 03, 2012 06:20 PM
  
What would indicate where you feel the most insecure in your natal chart ? I have intense feelings of worthlessness when i look in the mirror to the point where i feel suicidal . But the feeling never lasts . I blame it on neptune in the 1st house and Moon in the 1st house . One way to get to me is to start talking about my physical appearence . My rising is Aquarius so i am constantly getting asked questions about
my race/my sexual orientation/my mood and im always being asked if im high or paying attention FROM EVERYONE ! everyone always has something to say about the way i look .
. i just wonder if stelliums are indicative of insecurities in that area IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian
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From: Your ♥
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted June 03, 2012 06:23 PM
I blame my insecure feelings mostly on Venus Conj Saturn in Cap.IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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From: Jupiter
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 03, 2012 06:36 PM
That is really sad I'm sorry you go through that.
Talking about it helps.  IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted June 03, 2012 06:42 PM
I have a Cancer moon.That's pretty much where a lot of it comes from, for me at least. I'd also say that having a packed 11th house in my case also contributes. Also, really sorry to hear that you're having these difficulties, and I hope that you'll be able to find a way to see the beauty that you do have. IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
Knowflake Posts: 330
From: PA, USA
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted June 03, 2012 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I'd also say that having a packed 11th house in my case also contributes.
I'm curious, what makes you say this RP? I also have a very full 11th house. I can tend to be insecure as well, but only about certain things, though I never thought having planets here would do make you feel like that. Do you have Saturn or Pluto here? IP: Logged |
Despina
Newflake Posts: 7
From: Dublin
Registered: May 2012
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posted June 03, 2012 11:03 PM
Sorry to hear that love hate! I suffer from depression and blame it on saturn square jupiter, mostly. I also have a t-square between saturn, the sun, and chiron, which is just yuck, but I think any number of aspects could indicate lack of self-esteem. I don't know much about the eleventh house but maybe look at chiron and saturn. With aquarius rising I'm guessing some people can't quite figure you out, which would be confounded by Neptune in the first. But who cares? You are unique, cherish that. IP: Logged |
Oliviaaa
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 04, 2012 12:47 AM
I've pinpointed most of my, as well as others, insecurities on Chiron and Saturn. What do they do in your chart?And I do believe stelliums can bring about insecurities on the houses they are in, absolutely. And it makes sense, if you think about it..
If you have so much energy in one house, you can't really ignore it. You of course focus on it more. But you can get to the point where you focus on it too much... where you feel you can't do anything right, concerning that "area". You analyze it, obsess over it... you want and demand perfection with it.
I have a stellium in the 1st and the 3rd... and, oh yesssss..
How I come off/present myself to others as well as how I communicate, have always been sore spots for me. Stelliums can bring about frustration in the house they are in, to say the least...
All that energy is hard to grasp and finesse. Here's a good article to read on it.. if you haven't already. http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/four-big-things-you-may-not-know-about-st elliums/ IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 2503
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 04, 2012 01:08 AM
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Originally posted by lovehate122:
What would indicate where you feel the most insecure in your natal chart ? I have intense feelings of worthlessness when i look in the mirror to the point where i feel suicidal . But the feeling never lasts . I blame it on neptune in the 1st house and Moon in the 1st house . One way to get to me is to start talking about my physical appearence . My rising is Aquarius so i am constantly getting asked questions about
my race/my sexual orientation/my mood and im always being asked if im high or paying attention FROM EVERYONE ! everyone always has something to say about the way i look .
. i just wonder if stelliums are indicative of insecurities in that area
OMG! I'm an aqua ascendant and I get asked the same sh!t. The one I don't get is that people will sometimes ask " are you gay?" And that makes no sense because I have a deep voice and have no fashion sense, I am not animated with my face or hands, and if you watch me my eyes will invariably follow the pretty women XD so in what form or fashion could I possibly appear gay?
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Moonfish
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posted June 04, 2012 01:22 AM
I'm pretty insecure :[ ... ok very.
Moon pisces 12H inconjunct Venus and Chiron
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Oliviaaa
Knowflake Posts: 181
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 04, 2012 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
OMG! I'm an aqua ascendant and I get asked the same sh!t. The one I don't get is that people will sometimes ask " are you gay?" And that makes no sense because I have a deep voice and have no fashion sense, I am not animated with my face or hands, and if you watch me my eyes will invariably follow the pretty women XD so in what form or fashion could I possibly appear gay?
Can I ask if you have any planets in the first.. and if you do, what are they? IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 2503
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 04, 2012 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by Oliviaaa:
Can I ask if you have any planets in the first.. and if you do, what are they?
Aqua venus conjunct ascendant IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
Moderator Posts: 2895
From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted June 04, 2012 03:47 AM
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I'm curious, what makes you say this RP? I also have a very full 11th house. I can tend to be insecure as well, but only about certain things, though I never thought having planets here would do make you feel like that. Do you have Saturn or Pluto here?
Neither. I struggle a lot with friendships, and don't really feel loved (see "do any other 11th housers struggle with friendships" thread here on Astrology 2.0). I don't feel secure with people. My Cancer moon is in a different house, but it's a very, very sensitive sign. Honestly, even though it's said to be in its home in this sign, I really wish that I didn't have this placement sometimes. IP: Logged |
Desiring Shadows
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From: UNITED STATES, BABY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 04, 2012 04:09 PM
Naturally I'm not at all an insecure person. In fact I think I am positively more self-cofident than anyone around. I've always had faith in my abilities.
But then..
one horrid day...
I became self-aware and focused on the negativity and BLAHH struck! Also, life experiences... My natal is nevertheless still a blueprint of who I am though!
Seriously doubting its anything 11th house related (no offense) but that just doesn't make any sense to me. An afflicted saturn 1st house. Neptune may be where you just have absolutely no idea the reality of it. So a 1st house neptune could go either way.
Where you feel insecure would be chirons placing or natural low-self worth afflicted planets in the 2nd/..etc  IP: Logged |
Despina
Newflake Posts: 7
From: Dublin
Registered: May 2012
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posted June 04, 2012 06:55 PM
Desiring Shadows, I'm intrigued by the concept of afflicted planets in the second house. I have saturn there, opposing chiron in the eighth (0 degree orb!). I realise the second house is to do with values, but hadn't thought about it in terms of how we value ourselves. Is that what you're getting at?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: Pluto/house next to NickiG
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted June 04, 2012 07:55 PM
Do you have anything that squares your ASC? Is Chiron conj your ASC or in the 1st house. Insecurity may be Saturn conj the Sun, Moon or Venus.------------------
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RegardesPlatero
Moderator Posts: 2895
From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted June 04, 2012 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by Despina:
Desiring Shadows, I'm intrigued by the concept of afflicted planets in the second house. I have saturn there, opposing chiron in the eighth (0 degree orb!). I realise the second house is to do with values, but hadn't thought about it in terms of how we value ourselves. Is that what you're getting at?
oooh that is interesting I hadn't thought of it that way either, but I do have Mars and Neptune in the 2nd, in Capricorn. Feeling useful, needed, and like I contribute is a big deal with me. When I do feel happy with myself, it's when I feel like I've been those things. Dun dun dun Despina and Desiring Shadows, maybe you're both onto something here!
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Desiring Shadows
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From: UNITED STATES, BABY
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted June 05, 2012 05:29 PM
Thats most definately what I'm trailing with. Neptune & Chiron were in my 2nd house opposing saturn in the 8th when I felt incredibly low about myself. My friend and I kind of formed a bond. It happened to both of us nearly the same time---rather memorable. These aspects were all located in our SR chart the year it happened. So theres my little hypothesis. Hahaz.
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Belage
Knowflake Posts: 566
From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 05, 2012 05:33 PM
For insecurities, look to Saturn and to a lesser extent chiron placements.IP: Logged |
Geminisquared
Knowflake Posts: 578
From: nyc
Registered: Nov 2011
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posted June 06, 2012 05:26 AM
sun,mercury and venus square jupiter.
I'm just overly critical about everything.
No one is perfect, so most of my insecurities stem from not being good enough. I think when people criticize your appearance or even point out features its just jealously and insecurity. You made yourself believe there is something wrong your appearance , while you probably look great. You should have low esteem for others, not yourself IP: Logged |
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