posted June 07, 2012 05:17 PM            

Hi, I see there are so many others experiencing the samething on here and it feels great knowing I'm not the only one. Well we met two years ago online on a social network he commented on something of mine he thought was funny then paid me a compliment and I did the same. He asked if I would like to go out sometime since we live in the same area I believe we talked online nonstop for for hours then we exchanged numbers and he asked me out that upcoming Friday. It was really quick lol. We were together for a few months before I got scared and ended things.

My intentions was not to date anyone at that time because I went through a horrible break up with my ex fiance and just wanted to do me for awhile so when the instant attraction happened with us it got completely overwhelming.

posted June 09, 2012 04:38 AM            

So I have this aspect with someone.
I too have done things I would NEVER have thought of doing. I too feel like I miss him even when I know I shouldn't. I feel the push pull. lol

Ok so our's is:

His saturn in 3rd house sextile my neptune in second house. (separating)
My saturn in 12 house sextile his neptune in 4th house. (applying)

I always felt as though this was not a relationship that should have happened. When I'm with him I feel guilty. When I'm not around him I miss him like crazy. Sometimes I dislike that it did. I'd rather have a simple life.

We also met online. And in the link it said that the people might not have seen each other's faces and the pull would be just as strong. Yes! That is what happened. He has only seen my baby pictures. When he did tell me he loved me, he hadn't even seen the baby pictures, nothing.

posted June 09, 2012 05:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I'll sound naive here, but of the whole I met him and had sex on the first date....did you use condoms?
Sorry that really stood out for me. (I'm a virgin waiting for marriage, I'm probaby being a butt for asking. lol)

So I have this aspect with someone.
I too have done things I would NEVER have thought of doing. I too feel like I miss him even when I know I shouldn't. I feel the push pull. lol

Ok so our's is:

His saturn in 3rd house sextile my neptune in second house. (separating)
My saturn in 12 house sextile his neptune in 4th house. (applying)

I always felt as though this was not a relationship that should have happened. When I'm with him I feel guilty. When I'm not around him I miss him like crazy. Sometimes I dislike that it did. I'd rather have a simple life.

We also met online. And in the link it said that the people might not have seen each other's faces and the pull would be just as strong. Yes! That is what happened. He has only seen my baby pictures. When he did tell me he loved me, he hadn't even seen the baby pictures, nothing.

He's not my type, he has a million flaws, and yet I'm so into him. : /
He is into me and I have a lot many flaws.

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Hi Dreaming Don't feel bad for asking that question I'm a sexually open person and to answer your question yes we used protection. It wasn't as if I had the intentions of getting laid it just naturally flowed it that direction. Even in the seconds before it was about to happen I wasn't second guessing it I was really into him.

As for your situation there is sooooo many simularities like knowing you two are a bad idea and the missing and longing when he's not there. Alnight I've been thinking about him because earlier I woke up abruptly from a dream where he was cuddling with me then whispered in my ear I love you. It creeped me out so bad because it felt so real. I was looking around and lyed there in bed just dumbfounded.

And yes the even before meeting face to face or seeing pics happened to me as well. My goodness the first date when I layed eyes on him I couldn't stop smiling. He's gorgeous. Still is...he wears a pair of jeans like no man I've ever seen. Wheew....lol sorry. Any talk of him brings flashbacks.

Anyways...when did you two meet? What is truly keeping you two from eachother?

posted June 09, 2012 02:19 PM            

We spoke for 2 hours online, but that is not new for me. I'm a chatterbox. lol

I think the first week of November 2010, we both started feeling for each other. Before that we were simple online chat aquaintances.

After when I did realize this weird pull, I tried to deactivate my account and stop talking to him. I would avoid him etc. And yet, I wanted to talk to him.

We would usually talk at a certain hour, so when he would keep me waiting, I would get impatient. That is a normal trait of mine. I hate being ignored or made to wait for silly things. So I didn't bother chatting with him and would ignore him. Then in this confusion, he suddenly blew me a kiss, online that is. And I blew it off as him trying to :* someone else but having mistakenly entered it into my chat window.

Anyway, at first I didn't think that it was appropriate because well it wasn't the right time for me to be dating etc. I had a few things regarding my career I intended on finishing before anything.

Then there was a the culture, religion, education, career and yes even social status. All those things made me worry, if I was being stupid in the mix of emotions.

But since I was anonymous to him, I could safely unload my problems and he would actually try to guide me through it. On his profile it, said he was a therapist to his friends, and so when I was having some family issues, I got online to distract myself and decided to talk to him vaguely about it. I think we got closer after that.

Evenutally, nothing mattered. I even tried to open discussions about his religion and how it was similar to ours, during dinner etc. I would ask my family if it would be better to marry this kind of guy or that kind of guy. I was trying to ease the idea of him into my family.

So in April he told me he loved me. However this was after a fight, so maybe he just wanted to chain me with those words. Lots of men and women do that, without really meaning anything.

So as time progressed, I felt like opening up to him bit by bit. I'm sooooo cautious, and he was soo patient with me.

I stopped caring about all the points I used to worry about. But...

As I started getting more into him, he started pulling away. He started lying, hidding things, his actions. So I too stepped back. There was so much distrust in my heart. He would say things to assuage my fears but my intuition was still irked and suspicious. Then he did something that was hypocritical. I googled him up on a different site, but the profile was not in use for at least 6 months before we met.
There came a point where he asked me to not be on the dating site we met on, I agreed. I stayed off. Then he started getting moody etc....

He would take things out on me. So I made a fake profile and messaged him on the other site. He didn't reply. I was happy that he passed the test. hehe
Then one day he said he was upset depressed etc. That he wasn't in a talking mood and wanted to eat and watch youtube. I said that was fine. Then the next day he was zoned out, I hated seeing him like that. I said you can talk to anyone you want if that makes you feel better.
Guess what he did?
HE replied to the other girl on the other site, who was actually me.
I made that profile explicitly state that one should only contact me if they are serious and that I was not there to make friends. And he contacted me. That really broke my heart, but...

I learned some hard truths.

After that, I trusted nothing about him, and decided to give him up. I don't want to live a life with a fraud and be the nagging wife that makes silly profiles nad needs to keep tabs on her man. No.

So I too began to pull away, I signed back onto my original site. I started talking to other men. I let him do his thing. I replied to him using the fake profile. He only spoke of his career plans with the fake profile but I noticed he was on it frequently throughout the day. I hadn't told him anything. I kept all the info to myself. It helped push me away from him and was a HUGE turn off. HUGE.

Then I met this really nice guy, who seemed better fit for me. I started talking to him more and more. And oddly I started meeting more men that were better suited for me. I started getting this feeling that the first guy blinded me to all these other men.

I grew a bit defiant and became more and more cold to the first one. Finally he started getting upset, he thought I wan't paying attn to him etc. Then I told him he should find some other girl or moron to be with. And I guess that shocked him. He asked me what was wrong etc. I told him. All he did was "uh ok?" "ok?" "ok..."
@@ Just there was no way it would work. He shattered all the trust we had slowly built together. But the pull and push was hard.

He cried after and told me that he truly loved me. He was just tired of me being so suspicious. (Is that a common line for men who know there girls have reason to be suspicious? He did shady **** , of course I wasn't goingot trust him.) He said he wanted to see me. He wanted to fly over to meet me. He wanted to see me before he did that .... which makes me question his genuine nature in the first half of the "r/s". He didn't care for looks he said. He loved and adored me. I was the one for him. And now....
So anyway, I deemed him fickle and immature. HE would be the type of guy that would make excuses for what went wrong and blame me for everything AFTER getting caught. He reminded me of a used car salesman.

Eventually though, he gave me his password after deleting things though. HE cried for me. He told me he loved me again and again. So I thought, "Eh what the hey. Let's see where this goes." I didn't act lovey dovey anymore. I wasnt as spirited or happy go lucky like before. I just didn't feel it. I felt that he needed to prove himself to me and fix this, before he got any of that from me. I didn't want to screw with my emotions with someone that behaved as he did until he proved he was worthy. Yeah I sound like a ***** . I think I have a right to be ticked off though. Anyway, I saw that he messaged this girl a pseudo intellectual with boobs and glasses and what have you. He asked he why don't you reply when I message you. I had signed into the site in the nick of time because I saw the IM pop up, but.....the Im history had been deleted. SO while he gave me his password it was only for a false sense of security, otherwise why would he delete that if he was innocent. right? Yeah I was pretty ****** . I gave him his password told him to shove it and leave me alone. He told me that he didn't really think about it and was avoiding any argument and that's whay he deleted it. Really??? That's like I had sex behind your back I didn't mention it before because I didn't want to hurt you! I was beyond mad, not as much with him but with myself for being so stupid.

I have never been so stupid with a man in my life. Never. How did this happen to me? How?
I started doubting myself. I decided to call it quits for real, but he kept messaging me. Anyway, he would write me songs, make promises, but I didn't believe him; I humored him sure. Deep down I wanted to believe him. So the pain of this aspect is relevant to me. I lost trust in men--didn't have much to begin with--, lost trust in myself and my judgement, felt I wasted precious time on him with my emotions. It was horrible. So while he wanted to ignore things and act like nothing happened I wante to work on them even if it was messy otherwise no deal. He wouldn't try; he'd get upset that I kept doubting him and kept bringing things up and that I made him feel caged up. I was beyond exhausted. I don't need that right? SO I ended it. He became nauseous and started vomiting all night. In the morning, I got a message that he was really sick. He wanted to watch a movie with me online, talk to me that day. He wanted to spend all day with me. I felt bad, so I did talk to him. I told him what to take to get better. We spoke that day and the next to. He begged me to reconsider. He said he would do anything. (But why should I believe him this time? I needed to breathe.) Oct31st, ignored his messages this time. After 2 weeks his messages tore away at me and I was worried about him. So I replied to that days message. Again it started, again then it ended. Sigh. Same stuff. Same issues, Same block. April 1st 2012. This last time he told me he hated me that he wished he never met me, the same line I used on him a few months ago. ( I used to tell him I hated him in a coy way to tell him I loved him. That was when things were going well. But when I used these lines together, I was serious and upset. I really did wish we never met; he brought me a lot of emotional pain. I'm a scorpio moon too. It was excruciating.) SO when he said that to me March 31st that was it for me. If he doesnt want this relationship and I'm trying ot get out, then we should stop. I apologized for the grief I caused and wished him luck in life on APril 1st. April 3 he apologized and said he hated fighting with me, but he didn't say anything like I wish you luck in life. The next day when I didn't reply, he asked me if I received his message. After 3 days I decided to let him leave without wondering when I was going ot reply. I told him, "yeah, I got it. thanks."
That was april 7th 2012.
I have not made contact with him since and neither has he.

I have thought about him every single day since though. When I'm not busy, I think of him and it makes me sad and then angry. So I have to keep busy to avoid my emotions. It's been a productive time for me. I'm glad.
On youtube, he favorites music and things that relate to us. He favorites breakup songs and things. I know he is somewhere deep down thinking of me, but what's the point right?

posted February 02, 2013 02:52 AM            

This is someone that no matter what I do I can't get this to end.. yet I can't let it go either..
No matter what happens we keep reconnecting.

I take it we have some karma to work out together.. I know it has to do with relationships..
I think we are learning how to handle relationships better, as neither of us have a healthy record..

But between us we just kinda know if we don't somehow make it right.. the other person will leave...
We have been on non speaking terms off and on.. until one person gives and makes contact and makes it right... which is no more than a few weeks..

I admit it's emotionally draining and I wouldn't wish this on anyone..

posted February 02, 2013 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by sexyaqua30:

Hi Milky...wow that's how I feel. When I say dangerous I don't mean in a violent way but more so we're the type who because of the karmic feeling (strong connection) or never being on the same page at the sametime regardless of our current circumstances that *I'm taken in a relationship way* doesn't mean anything to us because we want eachother (meaning if one or the other is taken or both we're likely to ignore the clear don't touch boundaries and be with eachother because the chemistry is so strong). We want what we want which is eachother regardless of the consequences. I've never felt that careless with anyone. Also dangerous meaning if we keep running from eachother we won't find a solution and we won't learn from our own karmic past. Things are surreal when I'm with him the rest of the world just doesn't matter but at the sametime it's freaking scary being close to him.

Everytime I think I'm at a point I can move on he reappears either through a call, text, email...something with, "I want to see you. When are you going to come visit me? I won't be able to keep my hands off of you. I miss you. Please stay with me. Let's go out my treat. Do you want to take the dogs out to the park? Let's be like we use to".....then all over again we're like a couple and my cap venus can't take the relationship feeling without the set in stone you're my woman.

I'm the one who moved miles and miles away. I'm the one who met someone else. I'm the one who had to had to end things with "someone" else because I travel miles and miles back just to be in his arms....I should of regret cheating but didn't regret being with my ex I regret having to go back which now is the reason he's freezing me out because I told him I couldn't stay that what we're doing is wrong and that this is not the way to go about it. It's as if he gets a kick out of knowing I can't say no to him.

Even in the middle of love making I stopped and said I can't do this and he kept wanting me to say why when he knew full well why and he did the most sneakiest smile and started making the sex painful but in a good way.

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posted April 06, 2013 03:10 PM            

Sun Trine Sun Orb 2.47
Mercury Trine Sun Orb 1.28
Venus Square Saturn Orb 0.30
Mars Sextile Uranus Orb 0.09
Mars Square Pluto Orb 1.34
Jupiter Trine Sun Orb 0.18
Jupiter Trine Jupiter Orb 2.55
Saturn Sextile Saturn Orb 0.02
Uranus Square Venus Orb 1.08
Neptune Trine Saturn Orb 3.03
Pluto Sextile Saturn Orb 0.43
My BD 11/17/1982
His BD 7/14/1978

I feel like this relationship is very intense and a strong need to push him away. I don't think he feels the same though. I am a Scorpio so I usually like intense and he is a Cancer. He does lots of disappearing then comes back to talk to me. It hasn't really gone to far because we are both unavailable. I also feel that my feelings are strong but he has no feelings for more then a classic Cancerian booty call. He came on strong at first but pushed away and keeps me at a safe distance. While I was the one keeping him at a safe distance at first. We have both mentioned feeling a karmic connection at some point. We are defiantly not looking to be together in a relationship, but somehow we just stay talking to each other. Also I have had dreams about us being together that were so vivid and real feeling. Only after waking and looking around I realized they were only dreams and I am alone. Definite sense of longing that I have never had before with anyone else.

posted September 17, 2014 06:43 PM            

It's hell. We care so much for each other and had an amazing relationship. A year into it (connected at the hip, spending every free moment together 24/7) he looked me in the eye and said he didn't want to open his heart to me (that he didn't feel safe in doing so). Neither of us saw the breakup coming and neither of us are dealing too well with it.

posted September 18, 2014 12:58 AM            

There's nothing 'dangerous' about a relationship where the chart synastry shows Saturn trine Neptune. That is a harmonious aspect.

As to the site you quote, well blarney comes in all forms.

Ultimately you have to decide to let go of someone once you've convinced yourself there is something & someone better. If a Saturn-Neptune aspect in your synastry with your ex is the cause of where you are stuck, then you would appear to have no choice in the matter.

Astrology doesn't rule our lives -- at least it doesn't have to. It just gives us a starting set of energies that both support and challenge us.

BTW I have had relationships of various sorts that involved Saturn opposite and square Neptune in the different synastries. It is NOT true that the karma is entangled with both of you so that it requires both people to resolve it. YOU and YOU ALONE are always in charge of your own karma, which is defined purely by what you cannot let go of or allow to be as it is.

I am no longer involved with any of the people with whom I shared the Saturn-Neptune synastry. None of them are essential parts of my life anymore and I am quite happy.

posted April 30, 2015 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
FYI this is the link for the above quote, http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html , in the future please add links to material you didn't write.

Curious what the Venus aspects are for each person, natally? ....

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Thank you sooo much for bumping this Venus2tinkerbell !

I've been feeling some acute deep emotional pain recently..., {oops wrong chart, deleted materials}

Reading the pages about Saturn-rx made things more clear for me.

I have Saturn-rx Scorpio opposite my Venus Taurus.

Dena Moore, author of those excerpts taken from her book, Dangerous Love, Sacred Love... http://www.dangerouslove-sacredlove.com/

There's going to be an intense "Scorpio Full Moon, 14+degrees" on Sunday May 3, 2015. Just happens to fall within 2 orbs of my S-rx/V opposition. Also neatly coincides with the May 4th anniversary of my father's death in 2008. {We had been estranged for many years, and our relationship had been remote-- I do understand that he loved me.}

-impact of the father, Saturn-rx http://www.throughnightsfire.com/LoveandSaturnRetrograde.html

QUOTE "Coming face to face with a person who can penetrate the defenses could throw the native into a whole new world, one where the navigation equipment is broken and the ego structure begins to crumble in the light of real love...."

-erecting walls, creating defenses, Saturn-rx http://www.dangerouslove-sacredlove.com/ErectingwallscreatingdefensesSaturnretrograd e.html

-disillusionment & developing compassion http://www.dangerouslove-sacredlove.com/DisillusionmentanddevelopingcompassionSaturn. html

posted April 30, 2015 07:18 PM            

I hope you are able to make time for yourself this weekend and on Monday. I hope you can set aside all obligations, even work, so you can do what you want to do with your time, and let yourself feel what you're really feeling.

posted May 03, 2015 10:34 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Thank you so much, Venus2tinkerbell, for your kind words of support and your wisdom. I am grateful.

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