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sexyaqua30
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posted June 06, 2012 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think i might have discovered why i can't seem to shake my aqua ex (the one i've been pushing away). Sometimes out of nowhere i get caught up just daydreaming about him. Other times i cry because the love i have for him is so overwhelming but i try and shut the feelings out but to no avail. Then there are times it's as if i can feel him thinking about or longing for me too.

Whenever we meet again it's as if the hairs on the back of my neck stand up and i can't seem to shake that damn smile off my face. In the beginning i ran then he ran then i ran and well we always seem to meet at the middle at the wrong time when the other is already taken, when the other has moved out of state when the other is just not ready for anything serious.

I'm so sick of being afraid to just tell him i love him and that i want him forever but the fear of rejection is crippling. I thought i was losing my mind until i discovered we have saturn trine neptune in our compatability chart and here is what it said......of course i'm aware that other factors affect a chart but this made things make sense.

" If you are working on a synastry chart and you find this connection look for the deeper ties to the personal planets. By noting and examining the ties to the personal planets, you can obtain some idea of how the current relationship is manifesting for each individual and how they can approach the healing that needs to take place in the current life. The lovers meet again to clear negative karma and to rekindle their love, however briefly the actual relationship may last. If a person finds this passionate love in the current life but runs from it, he or she is running from their own personal evolution. We can learn a great deal from dangerous relationships. When that special love comes upon us and we indulge in it for a brief time and then choose to escape because the fear is too strong, then we are choosing to turn our back on love. Avoiding these heavy karmic Saturn-Neptune relationships is akin to avoiding life itself. If we avoid love and strangle it within our hearts and souls, not allowing it to blossom and grow, then we will face the same person again in the future under a similar, or perhaps even more complicated, situation.

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The Saturn-Neptune connection will not resolve itself on its own, both souls must be willing to work hard to heal together. To confront the 'danger' takes a very evolved soul and often I see one soul who is ready to deal with the karma and rekindle the relationship yet the other soul is not ready. This can be unbearably painful for the person who is ready to tackle the work. I should mention here that even if the relationship ends quickly, the two lovers will often continue to long for each other no matter who they are with or how far apart they are. That is how strong and binding this aspect is within a relationship." http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html

This is just a snippet of course but i was wondering if there are any other people out there who've had this aspect in a compatibility chart and if so what has been the outcome?

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posted June 06, 2012 04:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FYI this is the link for the above quote, http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html , in the future please add links to material you didn't write.

Curious what the Venus aspects are for each person, natally?

I had this opp. His Saturn conj his SN, my Neptune conj his NN, exact - we're 8 yrs apart. Our Venuses conj in synastry, but natally his is sq Uranus, mine is sq Pluto. His Uranus conj my Pluto. Created an intense draw and we did work a lot out with each other. However, his Uranus was sq my Moon/Venus and my Uranus squared his Sun/Moon, it was a hectic pace and didn't last.

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posted June 06, 2012 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Squares and oppositions, potentially the conjunction, depending upon other aspects.

Not the trine, sextile, or other soft aspects. That's not the dangerous / painful / difficult / restricted / insecure, just overall BAD effects of the Saturn-Neptune connection.

Trust me on this one. I have personal experience with several aspects. Squares and oppositions are THE most difficult, the conjunction is extremely powerful, and trines and sextiles are nice, or just not very 'visible'.

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posted June 06, 2012 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seaofjoy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have saturn conjunct neptune exact in my natal, as does my man, we have our saturn and neptune conjunct exact - tbh, because they are slow moving planets it is possible to have it with many, does your satur/neptune touch either of ur luminaries? or mars, venus, ac? mine touches my moon & my moon conjuncts my man's sun which is aspected to his neptune and saturn

i must say, intense relationship as, it is a constant struggle of contradictions, we both have a lot of pisces & capricorn too - my chart ruler is capricorn, but together, we have struggled & healed a lot of old wounds, i think to make this work, you have to take a leap of faith ... it's a constant struggle between keeping on track with our individual ambitions and goals & merging together into one for a greater spiritual cause. all up, so confusing, but i'm so addicted.

i totally get what u mean about pushign away but feelign connected, have you checked if you have VERTEX connections/8th house/pluto?

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posted June 06, 2012 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lonake:
FYI this is the link for the above quote, http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html , in the future please add links to material you didn't write.

Curious what the Venus aspects are for each person, natally?

I had this opp. His Saturn conj his SN, my Neptune conj his NN, exact - we're 8 yrs apart. Our Venuses conj in synastry, but natally his is sq Uranus, mine is sq Pluto. His Uranus conj my Pluto. Created an intense draw and we did work a lot out with each other. However, his Uranus was sq my Moon/Venus and my Uranus squared his Sun/Moon, it was a hectic pace and didn't last.



Hi. My apologies for not quoting. First I'm going to post my chart then our compatiblity and his will follow. *Some sites list me as aries rising others as taurus rising.


Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0

Sun Aquarius 29.37 Ascendant Aries 10.10

Moon Sagittarius 29.24 II Taurus 16.47

Mercury Aquarius 4.25 III Gemini 13.19

Venus Capricorn 24.31 IV Cancer 6.08

Mars Libra 19.09 V Cancer 29.50

Jupiter Scorpio 10.17 VI Leo 29.20

Saturn Libra 21.57 R VII Libra 10.10

Uranus Sagittarius 4.28 VIII Scorpio 16.47

Neptune Sagittarius 26.38 IX Sagittarius 13.19

Pluto Libra 26.49 R Midheaven Capricorn 6.08

Lilith Sagittarius 16.21 XI Capricorn 29.50

Asc node Cancer 22.05 XII Aquarius 29.20


Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value Sun Sextile Moon 0.13 252 Sun Trine Saturn 7.40 5 Sun Square Uranus 4.51 -17 Sun Sextile Neptune 2.59 43 Sun Trine Pluto 2.48 50 Moon Conjunction Neptune 2.46 319 Moon Sextile Pluto 2.35 71 Moon Conjunction Midheaven 6.44 118 Mercury Conjunction Venus 9.54 6 Mercury Square Jupiter 5.51 -3 Mercury Sextile Uranus 0.02 218 Venus Square Mars 5.22 -10 Venus Square Saturn 2.34 -82 Venus Square Pluto 2.18 -49 Mars Conjunction Saturn 2.48 79 Mars Conjunction Pluto 7.40 46 Mars Opposition Ascendant 8.59 -0 Saturn Conjunction Pluto 4.52 133 Uranus Trine Ascendant 5.43 9 Neptune Sextile Pluto 0.11 57 Neptune Conjunction Midheaven 9.29 4 1410 -161 1249

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posted June 06, 2012 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Compatibility Chart

j Aspect l l Orb/Value Sun Trine Jupiter 3.11 83 Sun Opposition Saturn 1.37 -96 Moon Opposition Jupiter 2.58 -76 Moon Trine Saturn 1.24 88 Mercury Conjunction Mercury 3.34 69 Mercury Square Ascendant 1.47 -125 Venus Opposition Mars 1.50 -82 Mars Trine Sun 3.07 98 Mars Trine Venus 0.15 103 Mars Sextile Neptune 1.21 46 Mars Conjunction Pluto 2.31 80 Jupiter Conjunction Ascendant 4.04 79 Saturn Trine Venus 2.33 59 Neptune Opposition Jupiter 0.12 -62 Neptune Trine Saturn 1.22 50 Pluto Square Mars 0.28 -98 Pluto Trine Jupiter 0.23 57 Pluto Sextile Saturn 1.11 40 852 -539 313

His Chart

Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0

Sun Aquarius 16.02 Ascendant Scorpio 6.13

Moon Capricorn 12.30 II Sagittarius 5.02

Mercury Aquarius 0.51 III Capricorn 8.03

Venus Aquarius 19.24 IV Aquarius 13.26

Mars Cancer 26.21 R V Pisces 16.20

Jupiter Gemini 26.26 R VI Aries 13.53

Saturn Leo 28.00 R VII Taurus 6.13

Uranus Scorpio 16.18 VIII Gemini 5.02

Neptune Sagittarius 17.48 IX Cancer 8.03

Pluto Libra 16.38 R Midheaven Leo 13.26

Lilith Cancer 2.06 XI Virgo 16.20

Asc node Libra 7.15 XII Libra 13.53

Planet Aspect Planet Orb/Value Sun Conjunction Venus 3.21 316 Sun Square Uranus 0.16 -87 Sun Sextile Neptune 1.46 94 Sun Trine Pluto 0.35 71 Sun Opposition Midheaven 2.37 -99 Moon Sextile Uranus 3.49 8 Moon Square Pluto 4.08 -22 Mercury Opposition Mars 4.30 -70 Mercury Square Ascendant 5.22 -9 Venus Trine Jupiter 7.02 10 Venus Opposition Saturn 8.36 -7 Venus Square Uranus 3.05 -48 Venus Sextile Neptune 1.35 109 Venus Trine Pluto 2.46 52 Venus Opposition Midheaven 5.58 -47 Jupiter Sextile Saturn 1.34 54 Jupiter Opposition Neptune 8.38 -4 Uranus Square Midheaven 2.53 -16 Neptune Sextile Pluto 1.11 42 Neptune Trine Midheaven 4.23 9 Pluto Sextile Midheaven 3.12 4 769 -409 360

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posted June 06, 2012 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Check it out, same set up. You with Venus sq Pluto. Him with Venus sq Uranus.

"Other times i cry because the love i have for him is so overwhelming but i try and shut the feelings out but to no avail."
--Venus sq Pluto here, I have so been there. You both have Venus/Saturn, what is the worst thing that could happen if you told him how you felt. I'm kinda guessing it feels like the end of the world but I might be wrong. Then you both have the aloof Aqua/Cap thing goin on. He's gonna be hard to pin down with the Aqua Sun sq Uranus, you have the same but his is in sign and much tighter. Is it possible you 2 are looking for obstacles, cos if not you'd be working around them to be together, just my thoughts.

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posted June 06, 2012 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so confused by all of that.

Could you post some charts or links or something? Synastry? Composite? Anything?

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posted June 06, 2012 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
I'm so confused by all of that.

Could you post some charts or links or something? Synastry? Composite? Anything?

-A.


Here's our birthday information

Me: 2/18/82 time 9:21am bham, al
Him: 2/4/78 time 11:59pm Brookyn (Manor), NY

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posted June 06, 2012 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Check it out, same set up. You with Venus sq Pluto. Him with Venus sq Uranus.

"Other times i cry because the love i have for him is so overwhelming but i try and shut the feelings out but to no avail."
--Venus sq Pluto here, I have so been there. You both have Venus/Saturn, what is the worst thing that could happen if you told him how you felt. I'm kinda guessing it feels like the end of the world but I might be wrong. Then you both have the aloof Aqua/Cap thing goin on. He's gonna be hard to pin down with the Aqua Sun sq Uranus, you have the same but his is in sign and much tighter. Is it possible you 2 are looking for obstacles, cos if not you'd be working around them to be together, just my thoughts.


I'm afraid of the final rejection. By that I mean I'm afraid when I tell him how I feel he will already be at a point in his life where he's moved on from me emotionally or the fear of finding out I'm the only one feeling all giddy and he's just scratching the surface. The thought of that is too much to bare. Never been afraid before to just blurt things out (sag moon) but with him I can't.

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posted June 06, 2012 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn Trine Neptune is NOT heavy karma, it is a karmic reward aspect. It will not create even a 0% chance of danger on its own.
It is an aspect of spiritual purity and righteousness.

Always look at Pluto and Nessus hard aspects to personal planets for dangerous relationships.

Indigo wrote:
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Trust me on this one. I have personal experience with several aspects. Squares and oppositions are THE most difficult, the conjunction is extremely powerful, and trines and sextiles are nice, or just not very 'visible'.
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100% correct.

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posted June 06, 2012 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
Saturn Trine Neptune is NOT heavy karma, it is a karmic reward aspect. It will not create even a 0% chance of danger on its own.
It is an aspect of spiritual purity and righteousness.

Always look at Pluto and Nessus hard aspects to personal planets for dangerous relationships.

Indigo wrote:
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Trust me on this one. I have personal experience with several aspects. Squares and oppositions are THE most difficult, the conjunction is extremely powerful, and trines and sextiles are nice, or just not very 'visible'.
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100% correct.


Thanks still learning the ins and outs of astrology and appreciate your input as well as the rest.



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posted June 06, 2012 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ueharaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There was a thread some time ago about saturn conjunct neptune in synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213669-3.html
By the way, someone was asking if anyone had ever experienced the trine.

As for the "dangerous" aspect, I'm not so sure that harmonious aspects between saturn and neptune are enough to create it.
One theme that seems to be recurring though is the fact that there are obstacles to he relationship (you being taken, or him being taken) but I would say that with an harmonious aspect between saturn and neptune in your synastry you actually have a real chance at overcoming them and creating something good, even great out of it.

I wish there were more interpretations of this particular pairing though. So far, neptune-saturn aspect in synastry seem to be indicative of a one of a kind connection, yet throughnightsfire.com is the only website I've found that has attempted to grasp the karmic meaning of it.

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posted June 06, 2012 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I know is that he brings emotions out of me that I'm not familiar with. I usually play things safe but with him I let go naturally and just feel complete but scared at the same time so I run...go back to what's familiar and he finds me again and the cycle continues because emotionally he doesn't open up but instead welcomes me back with open arms.

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posted June 06, 2012 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JoJo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in the same boat with someone I long for too. We have Saturn/Neptune sextile and a wide square. We also have DW vertex/valentine conjunction and Pluto/Venus square and opposition. To make matters worse, we have sun asc conjunction as well. My NN is in his 8th house. We also have Psyche/Eros sign conjunction. Finally our name asteroids are conjunct, my name in his chart sits on his sun, and his name in my chart is on my moon.

It's miserable.

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posted June 07, 2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey sexyaqua

i was the one on the other thread curious about another's experience with the trine. can you please tell me, are you the neptune or the saturn in the combination?

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posted June 07, 2012 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milkyshutter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there. I have read the article you posted. I think you and I are sharing a similar predicament. I, too, have a girl that I'm obsessed with, and our saturn/neptune trines. I'm the saturn. I can't really tell its influence, but I'm getting a feeling that its karmic. I dont think its dangerous in anyway, but yeah, I think I'm bound to her.

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posted June 07, 2012 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Milkyshutter:
Hi there. I have read the article you posted. I think you and I are sharing a similar predicament. I, too, have a girl that I'm obsessed with, and our saturn/neptune trines. I'm the saturn. I can't really tell its influence, but I'm getting a feeling that its karmic. I dont think its dangerous in anyway, but yeah, I think I'm bound to her.

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posted June 07, 2012 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Milkyshutter:
I dont think its dangerous in anyway, but yeah, I think I'm bound to her.

Awwww sweet

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posted June 07, 2012 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I dont think its dangerous in anyway, but yeah, I think I'm bound to her.
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Yup, this can happen

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posted June 07, 2012 10:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
hey sexyaqua

i was the one on the other thread curious about another's experience with the trine. can you please tell me, are you the neptune or the saturn in the combination?



Hi Curious. I'm neptune he's saturn.

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posted June 07, 2012 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Milkyshutter:
Hi there. I have read the article you posted. I think you and I are sharing a similar predicament. I, too, have a girl that I'm obsessed with, and our saturn/neptune trines. I'm the saturn. I can't really tell its influence, but I'm getting a feeling that its karmic. I dont think its dangerous in anyway, but yeah, I think I'm bound to her.


Hi Milky...wow that's how I feel. When I say dangerous I don't mean in a violent way but more so we're the type who because of the karmic feeling (strong connection) or never being on the same page at the sametime regardless of our current circumstances that *I'm taken in a relationship way* doesn't mean anything to us because we want eachother (meaning if one or the other is taken or both we're likely to ignore the clear don't touch boundaries and be with eachother because the chemistry is so strong). We want what we want which is eachother regardless of the consequences. I've never felt that careless with anyone. Also dangerous meaning if we keep running from eachother we won't find a solution and we won't learn from our own karmic past. Things are surreal when I'm with him the rest of the world just doesn't matter but at the sametime it's freaking scary being close to him.


Everytime I think I'm at a point I can move on he reappears either through a call, text, email...something with, "I want to see you. When are you going to come visit me? I won't be able to keep my hands off of you. I miss you. Please stay with me. Let's go out my treat. Do you want to take the dogs out to the park? Let's be like we use to".....then all over again we're like a couple and my cap venus can't take the relationship feeling without the set in stone you're my woman.

I'm the one who moved miles and miles away. I'm the one who met someone else. I'm the one who had to had to end things with "someone" else because I travel miles and miles back just to be in his arms....I should of regret cheating but didn't regret being with my ex I regret having to go back which now is the reason he's freezing me out because I told him I couldn't stay that what we're doing is wrong and that this is not the way to go about it. It's as if he gets a kick out of knowing I can't say no to him.

Even in the middle of love making I stopped and said I can't do this and he kept wanting me to say why when he knew full well why and he did the most sneakiest smile and started making the sex painful but in a good way.

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posted June 07, 2012 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With him things I looked down on others for doing I've ended up doing. Sex on the first date? Did it. Cheated to be with him? Did it. Cheating with him when he's taken? Did it. You name it.

The first date was wow.....we couldn't keep our eyes off eachother and the conversation was so good that the waiter had to come back a few times because we kept forgetting to place an order. We gave that poor waiter a huge tip because we left when the resturant closed. Afterwards we stayed in the parking lot over an hour talking. He says to me I know we should go but I don't want this night to end with you. This is the most fun I've had in awhile. Would you like to come over?

We get there and talked another 3 hours and all I remember after that was hair pulling, biting and multiple orgasms. I get up and do the walk of shame after he dozes off only for him to say without looking up from the pillow. I was hoping I could wake up next to you. I dropped my purse and shoes and was back at his side.

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posted June 07, 2012 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Milkyshutter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Would you mind sharing yours and partner's DOB?

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posted June 07, 2012 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sexyaqua30     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Milkyshutter:
Would you mind sharing yours and partner's DOB?

Here you go

Me: 2/18/1982 time 9:21am bham, al
Him: 2/4/1978 time 11:59pm brooklyn (manor), ny

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