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NickiG
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posted June 12, 2012 01:09 PM
  
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Okay! lol, that one exists. Now we're off to a better start. I'll re-investigate that synastry aspect. Thanks!
finally....man, it has been a long time, i'm getting my symbols mixed up, i was looking at uranus before ------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted June 12, 2012 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by NickiG:
finally....man, it has been a long time, i'm getting my symbols mixed up, i was looking at uranus before
Have to wonder what my editor would think about you looking at their anu- sorry, Uranus!  IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted June 12, 2012 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
Have to wonder what my editor would think about you looking at their anu- sorry, Uranus!
oh and hey, she has uranus trine moon ------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted June 12, 2012 01:19 PM
sorry, really bad butt joke------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted June 12, 2012 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by NickiG:
sorry, really bad butt joke
lol, no problem. And hers is only a quarter moon. She does tend to "half-ass" our communication, so it only makes sense! IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted June 12, 2012 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
lol, no problem. And hers is only a quarter moon. She does tend to "half-ass" our communication, so it only makes sense!
LOL ------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted June 12, 2012 03:06 PM
If we could get the synastry analysis going again, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! I think their Mars squaring my Moon and Mercury probably creates the friction. But to me, it still doesn't explain it when they've flat out not answered my questions and they've explicitly told me they'd welcome any questions. I know some people typically mean that as a figure-of-speech, but I personally do not. If I have a question, I'd like it answered, especially if it's involving work. Maybe that's their Saturn squaring my Moon and Mercury. IP: Logged |
NickiG
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posted June 12, 2012 03:50 PM
your boss is the outer right? she has gem sun and leo moon...that combo makes forgetfullness (i'm a leo moon, gem asc) and your an aqua...my mom is one and she wants things done NOW------------------
I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate? when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted June 12, 2012 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by NickiG:
your boss is the outer right? she has gem sun and leo moon...that combo makes forgetfullness (i'm a leo moon, gem asc) and your an aqua...my mom is one and she wants things done NOW
Okay, your interpretation on the "forgetfulness" part makes sense when I plug it in to past correspondences. A lot of sense. I tend to operate (with my writing--it's what I freelance as, even though I leave typos on here lol) at breakneck speed, so it can collide frequently when I work so fast and turn material in so soon, meanwhile my editor may be a bit forgetful (as you suggest) and slower to respond (Mercury in Taurus). It's kid of a pain, but I have to admit, as of lately, it's gotten a bit better. If I can just tough out 3 more months. lol IP: Logged |
RedScorp
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posted June 12, 2012 06:07 PM
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She does tend to "half-ass" our communication, so it only makes sense!
Oh my god ahahahaha. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 12, 2012 09:50 PM
--The editor's Mars is sq your Merc: curt and can devolve into rudeness.
--The editor's Saturn is sq your Merc: classic for blocked communication, they could go out of their way to find fault with what you're doing, or could just plain ignore you if they see fit, since what you're communicating is not something that interests them. Looking a bit deeper their Saturn is in Scorp, your Merc is in Aqua, they could see you as flippant, that your concerns are juvenile in comparison to their worries.
--Your Sun sq the editor's Merc: this one the energy is turned around, here you're the one not wanting to listen to what the editor is communicating because you don't agree with their style. If we're gonna look at signs, their Taurus Merc is moving at a snail's pace, your Aqua Sun wants this person to get to the point already.
--The Moon opp Moon/Merc I wouldn't consider since you likely don't have their tob.
--Their Jup opp your Saturn: this is bad for a working relationshipIf it's not personal, since it seems like you 2 haven't had much communication at all, then they might be just swamped and not see your queries as worthy of their time. And the editing may be that they're not in agreement with your original take on things (your Aqua compared to their Taurus/Scorp) and are cutting it down to be more conservative. I don't know what type of writing you're doing, the subject, so take this in general here with the signs. Aqua is opinionated/refreshing/doesn't go with status quo, and Tau/Scorp cares very much about approval from higher ups, and to not rock the boat. Scorp is also incredibly controlling, and Taurus is stubborn about sticking to their simple views and not incorporating anything new. Hope the new editor, if you get one, is more open minded.  IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted June 12, 2012 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
--The editor's Mars is sq your Merc: curt and can devolve into rudeness.
Yes, there have been times where I feel I've been lectured on how things are to be run, when I had been with the company (freelancing) almost 9 months before she even came on board. When I brought up how communication between us was starting to fall apart (I was being polite), she finally apologized, and it seemed somewhat sincere. quote:
--The editor's Saturn is sq your Merc: classic for blocked communication, they could go out of their way to find fault with what you're doing, or could just plain ignore you if they see fit, since what you're communicating is not something that interests them. Looking a bit deeper their Saturn is in Scorp, your Merc is in Aqua, they could see you as flippant, that your concerns are juvenile in comparison to their worries.
Interesting, considering Mercury is exalted in Aquarius, and Saturn is peregrine in Scorpio. Not to sound arrogant, but there were times when it felt like she could learn a thing or two from me, frankly. quote:
--Your Sun sq the editor's Merc: this one the energy is turned around, here you're the one not wanting to listen to what the editor is communicating because you don't agree with their style. If we're gonna look at signs, their Taurus Merc is moving at a snail's pace, your Aqua Sun wants this person to get to the point already.
That came up once or twice, where instead of simply spitting out what she wanted, she used font style extras to try to overemphasize her point. To her, deadlines were the dates to turn in work, not before. She was the only one I've worked with there who's apparently had a problem with me turning in work... early? lol quote:
--The Moon opp Moon/Merc I wouldn't consider since you likely don't have their tob.
I just ran the tob from 12 midnight to 11:59 PM, and her moon opposes either my moon, mercury, or sun at some point, if you wanted to offer your take on it. quote:
--Their Jup opp your Saturn: this is bad for a working relationshipIf it's not personal, since it seems like you 2 haven't had much communication at all, then they might be just swamped and not see your queries as worthy of their time. And the editing may be that they're not in agreement with your original take on things (your Aqua compared to their Taurus/Scorp) and are cutting it down to be more conservative. I don't know what type of writing you're doing, the subject, so take this in general here with the signs. Aqua is opinionated/refreshing/doesn't go with status quo, and Tau/Scorp cares very much about approval from higher ups, and to not rock the boat. Scorp is also incredibly controlling, and Taurus is stubborn about sticking to their simple views and not incorporating anything new.
Well, the only time where what I turned in got sliced-and-diced was when I thought the instructions given to me were clear and that I had interpreted them correctly. The editor switched gears, didn't give me a heads up, and she and I later had a talk (via email) about what had happened. I think she picked up on that I had resented what had been done without notice, since I explained that if I'd known this was what was going to happen, I would have accommodated willingly. From that point on, she made a point of emailing me after I submitted work, saying how great everything looked, etc. It didn't exactly feel insincere, but more like "...what's, going on here?" lol Also, from what others at her work have told me, she's not overwhelmed with work. Having that unaspected (natally) Mercury in Taurus, it seems her thinking process might be a bit too slow and deliberate and that she may see every little aspect (no pun intended) of her job as a major undertaking. I admit, I prefer to work as fast as possible. I've started working (as a freelancer still) for others in the same company, and they welcome the fact that I will turn in assignments the same day I'm given them. So, I guess I have to admit that the problem isn't necessarily me. Besides, I might have different synastry aspects at work with the other people (if I knew their birth info, lol). Thanks again! Very helpful! As everyone contributing their feedback has been!
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Lonake
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posted June 12, 2012 10:46 PM
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She was the only one I've worked with there who's apparently had a problem with me turning in work... early? lol
Smh.  Sounds controlling more than anything. quote:
I just ran the tob from 12 midnight to 11:59 PM, and her moon opposes either my moon, mercury, or sun at some point, if you wanted to offer your take on it.
It's the Moon opp Merc that would be the worst in getting the point across. The Leo Moon could look at the Aqua Merc like their contributions are so out there, and depending on how entertained they were with them is how much attn they would pay to them. But the thoughts would only be entertained here at best, laughed at in superior disdain, at worst. quote:
Interesting, considering Mercury is exalted in Aquarius, and Saturn is peregrine in Scorpio. Not to sound arrogant, but there were times when it felt like she could learn a thing or two from me, frankly.
Oh hon, I'm Aqua Merc too. I've felt the same with Scorp placements that sq it. They can be very 'in the dark and caught up in their own game.' And their world is so small in comparison.IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted June 12, 2012 10:51 PM
Another thing...I don't know how familiar people here are with the formation called "striving figure." Basically, you start with a Yod, build it into what's called a boomerang, then finish it off into a "striving figure" formation. the planet in the opposition at the base end of the boomerang part serves, as far as I know, as the impetus of the formation's energy. In my editor's natal chart, she has 4 (yes, 4) striving figures. Jupiter at one end of the base, Mars and Saturn at the other, with Venus and the Sun as the points. And Uranus in Sagittarius is the focus point of the striving figure. I've read that that can mean the person might be tyrannical, taking matters into their own hands. Interestingly, the editor's Uranus conjuncts my Neptune exactly. Neptune is my chart co-ruler. IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted June 12, 2012 11:04 PM
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I just ran the tob from 12 midnight to 11:59 PM, and her moon opposes either my moon, mercury, or sun at some point, if you wanted to offer your take on it.
It's the Moon opp Merc that would be the worst in getting the point across. The Leo Moon could look at the Aqua Merc like their contributions are so out there, and depending on how entertained they were with them is how much attn they would pay to them. But the thoughts would only be entertained here at best, laughed at in superior disdain, at worst.What would the other two oppositions be like? From her Moon to my Sun or Moon?
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Lonake
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posted June 12, 2012 11:09 PM
They're classic for partnering, in one sense, but they could become separative depending on how the people are using their charts. Oppositions are mirrors and here you have Sun and Moon which are major aspects of the personality.IP: Logged |
12thhouser
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posted June 12, 2012 11:23 PM
I guess I'll cut to the chase and also ask, does my editor think she's a better person than me, given all the synastry aspects? I've sensed some condescension from her (reading between the lines), yet I'll admit it could be either inadvertent on her part, or me reading too much into it on my part. Either way, the condescension feels like she somehow thinks she's better than me. By the way, she's between 9 and 10 years younger than me. Not sure if that matters, but, there you have it.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 12, 2012 11:57 PM
I'm gonna inject my glass-half-full approach, and I'd just be happy that she's leaving in 3 mos.
Would rather not speculate on that when it's only a matter of time. Do you have any info on who they might be choosing? Maybe you can do something to secure a relationship with this new person before you start working with them, when it gets closer to that date. Or just do some vision work on how you can approach this new editor, when the time comes, things that you can change (in case there are any) to make sure you get off to a good start and make it a smooth relation.
I would not invest energy in this person unless you think they might be trying to ruin your name or your opportunities in this field. I would really just look forward to securing a positive professional relationship with the new editor and treat this person in a detached friendly way until their departure comes around. And I would leave it professionally, maybe send a card in the week before they leave to thank them for their part in working out any differences and well wishes. Since really the interaction must be tense for them as well, so give them an excuse to leave the relationship with no hard feelings. This is just what I would do. I'd ditch the negativity between you 2 and just look past it at the *bigger picture*.
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12thhouser
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posted June 13, 2012 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I'm gonna inject my glass-half-full approach, and I'd just be happy that she's leaving in 3 mos.
Would rather not speculate on that when it's only a matter of time. Do you have any info on who they might be choosing? Maybe you can do something to secure a relationship with this new person before you start working with them, when it gets closer to that date. Or just do some vision work on how you can approach this new editor, when the time comes, things that you can change (in case there are any) to make sure you get off to a good start and make it a smooth relation.
I would not invest energy in this person unless you think they might be trying to ruin your name or your opportunities in this field. I would really just look forward to securing a positive professional relationship with the new editor and treat this person in a detached friendly way until their departure comes around. And I would leave it professionally, maybe send a card in the week before they leave to thank them for their part in working out any differences and well wishes. Since really the interaction must be tense for them as well, so give them an excuse to leave the relationship with no hard feelings. This is just what I would do. I'd ditch the negativity between you 2 and just look past it at the *bigger picture*.
Sorry, maybe someone else will speculate on your Q.
The individual who initially set me up with this editor has told me they'd make sure I'm handed off to whomever they choose as the next editor. Still, I am detached from it enough to wonder if she thought she was better then me. On the other hand, I've just noticed quite a few trines between she and I that show things might not have been as bad as I originally thought: Her Saturn and Mars trine my Venus
Her Saturn and Mars trine my Saturn
Her Venus and Sun trine my Moon and Mercury
Her Venus trine my Pluto I was so focused on the communication barriers that I missed the obvious trines. I have a feeling that when she praised my work, it was indeed praise.
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12thhouser
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posted June 13, 2012 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[B]Looking a bit deeper their Saturn is in Scorp, your Merc is in Aqua, they could see you as flippant, that your concerns are juvenile in comparison to their worries.
Curious, but how is Aqua Merc flippant (or our concerns juvenile) compared to a Scorpio Saturn's concerns? Considering that Saturn is the traditional ruler of Aqua, seems like the editor would be best advised to listen to my concerns and what I have to say. quote:
--Your Sun sq the editor's Merc: this one the energy is turned around, here you're the one not wanting to listen to what the editor is communicating because you don't agree with their style. If we're gonna look at signs, their Taurus Merc is moving at a snail's pace, your Aqua Sun wants this person to get to the point already.
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--Their Jup opp your Saturn: this is bad for a working relationship
What's interesting here is that the editor's Jupiter is in fall in Capricorn. My Saturn is in detriment in Cancer. Yet each is receptive to the other (Saturn in domicile in Capricorn, Jupiter exalted in Cancer). quote:
If it's not personal, since it seems like you 2 haven't had much communication at all...
We've emailed over 2 dozen times since we've started working together.
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...then they might be just swamped and not see your queries as worthy of their time.
I've been told that she's hardly ever busy and can wait until the last minute. quote:
And the editing may be that they're not in agreement with your original take on things (your Aqua compared to their Taurus/Scorp) and are cutting it down to be more conservative.
Keep in mind, the traditional ruler of Aquarius is Saturn. My Uranus has only a very minor aspect--quintile to Mars. My Saturn has about 5 or 6 aspects to it. I can play things conservatively if necessary. IP: Logged | |
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