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12thhouser
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posted June 12, 2012 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The inside chart is me, the outside chart is my current editor who will be leaving in 3 months (no one is being fired, just leaving). Question is, even though the editor is boss, they change what I write pretty constantly, sometimes a lot. Also, they've written to me that they'll answer any questions I have. I've asked several questions in the past and not one of them was answered. Some people will undoubtedly say, "Don't take it personally," weighing in with what they feel are similar examples in their lives. But I'm asking, given the synastry chart, how much should I take personally? What aspects, etc.? I'm wondering if communication between my editor and myself is an issue, or if the editor has communication issues of their own, regardless of who they work with. I hope the linking image works. Thanks!

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posted June 12, 2012 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
since your question is about comminucation, your mercuries are squared....so, pretty bad communication on both sides

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posted June 12, 2012 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 12thhouser:
The inside chart is me, the outside chart is my current editor who will be leaving in 3 months (no one is being fired, just leaving). Question is, even though the editor is [b]boss, they change what I write pretty constantly, sometimes a lot. Also, they've written to me that they'll answer any questions I have. I've asked several questions in the past and not one of them was answered. Some people will undoubtedly say, "Don't take it personally," weighing in with what they feel are similar examples in their lives. But I'm asking, given the synastry chart, how much should I take personally? What aspects, etc.? I'm wondering if communication between my editor and myself is an issue, or if the editor has communication issues of their own, regardless of who they work with. I hope the linking image works. Thanks!

P.S. All birth info for the editor is known except for birth time, which would affect cusps and planetary house placements. The tested the time from 12:00 AM to 11:59 PM to see how the moon changed. It doesn't change sign, and the aspects are barely affected.

I don't mean any ill will toward the editor in asking this. Just trying to get to the bottom of this. Thanks again!

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posted June 12, 2012 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
since your question is about comminucation, your mercuries are squared....so, pretty bad communication on both sides


Our Mercuries don't even aspect. Orb is too wide. But thanks.

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posted June 12, 2012 12:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its pretty close, but since i cant see the orbs, and there are other planets right there, its a little hard to tell

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posted June 12, 2012 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
plus, there is a square between the inner mercury and outer pluto

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posted June 12, 2012 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
its pretty close, but since i cant see the orbs, and there are other planets right there, its a little hard to tell


Close, but no cigar. The red square line is from her Mercury to my Sun. Plus, her Mercury is direct, my Mercury is retrograde. They're too far apart, and moving in opposite directions to boot.

I should also note, it feels like there's friction between the editor and myself. I work freelance (from home), have met the editor once, shook hands and liked them, so I'm not sure why there's the friction there seems to be. That's why I'm gauging the group here.

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posted June 12, 2012 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
plus, there is a square between the inner mercury and outer pluto


(sighs)... please look again. There's a square between the inner Mercury and outer Saturn and Mars, not the outer Pluto. The outer Pluto has a conjunct (close, at least) to the inner Uranus, and nothing else.

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posted June 12, 2012 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry, i'm a little tired...i'm not usually this bad at synastry, lol

there is an opposition with the moons...but i dont see how it relates to communication...but mercury is there with the opposition as well, so it looks like you communicate with your feelings, and leo moon is more business when its necessary

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted June 12, 2012 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
sorry, i'm a little tired...i'm not usually this bad at synastry, lol

there is an opposition with the moons...but I don't see how it relates to communication...but mercury is there with the opposition as well, so it looks like you communicate with your feelings, and leo moon is more business when its necessary


Fair enough (about my Mercury and their Moon opposition), but I've never read or heard of anything Leo (let alone a Leo Moon) having anything to do with business (even though I've speaking of a professional relationship). If anything, I've read that Leo Moons have a lot of drama. One thing I've noticed is that the editor's Mercury is in Taurus, a fixed earth sign. Their communications to me can be very... deliberate. I've also read that a Taurus Mercury can be a little slow on the pick-up (depends on the rest of the chart, of course). Keep in mind, in the editor's natal chart, their Mercury is unaspected.

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posted June 12, 2012 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm a leo mooner myself, so i know that i can be all business if i have to be

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted June 12, 2012 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
i'm a leo mooner myself, so i know that i can be all business if i have to be


I've known several "Leo Mooners" myself. "If I have to be" just about sums it up.

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posted June 12, 2012 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
i'm a leo mooner myself, so i know that i can be all business if i have to be


Sorry if I snapped with my last remark, NickiG, but I'm trying to get to the bottom of this, and communication between the editor and myself have felt curt and blocked.

Occasionally they praise me, but it's 1 in 10 emails that I get this praise. As I've said, I've asked questions to them before (which they invited), and not one has ever been answered. They proceed with their next email as if nothing was ever asked. That's not how you treat someone you work with. But, I won't be working with them much longer. Just a few more months. Still, I was curious as to why there was so much "below the radar friction."

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posted June 12, 2012 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sun opposes saturn...saturn rules over career

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted June 12, 2012 02:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
sun opposes saturn...saturn rules over career


Whose Sun opposes whose Saturn?

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posted June 12, 2012 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look for Saturn for pupil/teacher type of relationship. (Mercury is good in square,btw)
Maybe you should list the aspects in orb.

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posted June 12, 2012 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Look for Saturn for pupil/teacher type of relationship. (Mercury is good in square,btw)
Maybe you should list the aspects in orb.

Would you elaborate, please? Thanks!

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posted June 12, 2012 06:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another thing I've noticed is that every planet except for Mercury and Venus in their chart is retrograde. Lots of internalizing. They may not even be aware of how little they're communicating to others, of how little they're actually expressing. It's beyond frustrating. I brought these communication issues to the attention of the person who had set me up with this editor (who had informed me that the editor would be leaving in 3 months), and they apologized repeatedly for the situation. It wasn't that other person's fault, but I was just taken aback by how ineffectively the editor communicated, given their job.

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posted June 12, 2012 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a suggestion, 12th Houser
Nicki has spent quite a bit of time trying to help, but you say the orbs are too small, etc
Why don't you list the orbs, so you can get the info which you are seeking, with more ease to the people who are graciously trying to help?

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posted June 12, 2012 10:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Just a suggestion, 12th Houser
Nicki has spent quite a bit of time trying to help, but you say the orbs are too small, etc
Why don't you list the orbs, so you can get the info which you are seeking, with more ease to the people who are graciously trying to help?



Quite a bit of time? NickiG spent her time mentioning aspects that don't even exist in this synastry:

Inner Mercury to Outer Pluto?
Sun opposing Saturn (where?)

I acknowledged her pointing out the Moon/Mercury opposition.

You're focusing on the orbs while overlooking that half of what was mentioned doesn't exist.

I'll look into the orbs if others look into reading the chart and thread accurately.

Thanks!

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posted June 12, 2012 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mercury square Mercury (8 degree orb) Sorry, too wide.

Mercury square Pluto (17 degree orb) Has anyone ever used a 17 degree orb for any synastry aspect?

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posted June 12, 2012 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
like i said, i was tired...my eyes werent focusing right, and outer sun is opposing inner saturn....sun - ego, saturn - career....planets and luminaries rule over more than one thing

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted June 12, 2012 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
like i said, i was tired...my eyes werent focusing right, and outer sun is opposing inner saturn....sun - ego, saturn - career....planets and luminaries rule over more than one thing


I understand you were tired.

Outer Sun opposing inner Saturn?--please look again. The outer Sun is in Gemini. The inner Saturn is in Cancer. How can something in Gemini oppose something in Cancer?

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posted June 12, 2012 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
saturn square moon

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted June 12, 2012 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12thhouser     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by NickiG:
saturn square moon


Okay! lol, that one exists. Now we're off to a better start. I'll re-investigate that synastry aspect. Thanks!

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