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posted June 13, 2012 07:50 PM            

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Do you use modern or traditional rulerships?

Traditional:
Sun: Leo
Moon: Cancer
Mercury: Gemini and Virgo
Venus: Taurus and Libra
Mars: Aries and Scorpio
Jupiter: Sagittarius and Pisces
Saturn: Capricorn and Aquarius

Modern:
Uranus: Aquarius
Neptune: Pisces
Pluto: Scorpio

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posted June 13, 2012 08:45 PM            

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Is it necessary to choose one over the other? I use both, because both systems work.

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posted June 13, 2012 09:00 PM            

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I also use both. If using both gives the fullest interpretation, why not?

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posted June 13, 2012 09:07 PM            

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I use modern. I can see why they would associate a planet with the sign in the traditional, but the modern one makes more sense to me.

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posted June 13, 2012 09:10 PM            

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I use both as well! I can see the relation between the older set of planets and their signs, but modern makes a lot of sense too.

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posted June 13, 2012 10:00 PM            

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I guess I don't really see the debate, if there even is one. Modern rulers only impact 3 signs they rule: Aquarius, Pisces, and Scorpio. But some think of modern rulers as not just the three outer planets, but all of them.

One thing I've wondered if people use, which I've seen used in astrology books, is house co-rulers--the planet or luminary that rules the sign starting midway through a house. When I've read chart interpretations using co-rulers, the interpretation is even fuller than without them. It almost makes you want to start calling the older method "cusp rulers" instead oh "house rulers" if co-rulers start gaining traction.

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posted June 13, 2012 11:13 PM            

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I use both.

When a sign has two planets ruling it I think of it as that sign having co-rulers. The modern ruler is usually more dominant though. For example, in the case of Scorpio both Mars and Pluto rule, but Pluto has the more obvious 'presence'. Same thing with Aqua where Uranus and Saturn are concerned...Aqua can be exciting and random... But have you also noticed how stoic they can be. In this sense they are almost like Cap's.

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posted June 14, 2012 04:56 AM            

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Modern.

I don't believe in the traditional ones. The modern ones fit the planets much better than the old ones.

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posted June 14, 2012 04:57 AM            

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A bit of both.

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posted June 14, 2012 07:13 AM            

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modern

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posted June 14, 2012 07:15 AM            

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Both, Also traditionally they said that Cancer was a co ruler of Jupiter i believe. Buzzy as!

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posted June 14, 2012 08:42 AM            

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Originally posted by seaofjoy:
Both, Also traditionally they said that Cancer was a co ruler of Jupiter i believe. Buzzy as!

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No, Jupiter is exalted in Cancer, which is different.

Anyway, I use both because I can't decide between one or the other. I find that when reading Scorp Rising charts, it's beneficial to look at Mars, for instance. I'm an Aquarius, but Saturn and Uranus are exactly conjunct in my chart so I can't test it on myself.

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posted June 14, 2012 12:07 PM            

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I use both when referring to the signs because it works.. but Modern for understanding the planets/teaching astrology.

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