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Topic: How to attract a Cap Moon?
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Milkyshutter
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posted June 28, 2012 06:27 AM
  
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Originally posted by Odette:
I can't relate.
Hmm. I meant that we dream to just romp and frolic. We are so caught up not trying to show our weakness inside we crave for someone to just take us back to our innocent birth IP: Logged |
Milkyshutter
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posted June 28, 2012 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by blugrey:
[b]It's kind of interesting, both our Venus are aspected to the same planets - Moon opp Venus, Venus - Pluto, Venus- Neptune, Venus-Saturn.
Oh this is good for attraction.
And I've dated a Gem/Cap and he was as you described, on the outside. This particular combo might just be tough to crack. Lemme see if I can remember what helped....don't be phony, even if he seems jokey-blah-blah it's a cover, like you said. What else, well I'll just say what I think he liked, that I was good with people in our social circle, popular, but stuck to my guns about my beliefs/ideals (he always had my back here), that i took my work seriously and could garner a lot of positive attn with it (again, aiding my status in the group), that i spoke my mind plainly and didn't play games, of course similar interests, and also I know that he liked that I saw past his social persona and that there was someone with more depth there who would be interesting to know, the fact that I took the time to break through that exterior. But then again I'm also a mutable Sun with a Capricorn Moon so that might've helped  [/B][/QUOTE]Voila. Yes have integrity. An area that is strong that we will look upto. IP: Logged |
Milkyshutter
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posted June 28, 2012 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by blugrey:
[b]It's kind of interesting, both our Venus are aspected to the same planets - Moon opp Venus, Venus - Pluto, Venus- Neptune, Venus-Saturn.
Oh this is good for attraction.
And I've dated a Gem/Cap and he was as you described, on the outside. This particular combo might just be tough to crack. Lemme see if I can remember what helped....don't be phony, even if he seems jokey-blah-blah it's a cover, like you said. What else, well I'll just say what I think he liked, that I was good with people in our social circle, popular, but stuck to my guns about my beliefs/ideals (he always had my back here), that i took my work seriously and could garner a lot of positive attn with it (again, aiding my status in the group), that i spoke my mind plainly and didn't play games, of course similar interests, and also I know that he liked that I saw past his social persona and that there was someone with more depth there who would be interesting to know, the fact that I took the time to break through that exterior. But then again I'm also a mutable Sun with a Capricorn Moon so that might've helped [/B][/QUOTE]Voila. Yes have integrity. An area that is strong that we will look upto. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted June 28, 2012 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
They really don't like people talking to them, it seems.
Regardes, just because you've had a negative experience with a Cap influenced person doesn't mean they don't like people talking to them. It's only a placement. People like other people talking to them in general, no placement actually likes being ignored. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted June 28, 2012 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Regardes, just because you've had a negative experience with a Cap influenced person doesn't mean they don't like people talking to them. It's only a placement. People like other people talking to them in general, no placement actually likes being ignored.
Yeah, but if people like talking to people, why would they act otherwise? Doesn't make any sense. It makes me feel uncomfortable and then I just don't want to be around that person; I'd rather be around warmer people who act like they enjoy talking to me. And, to be fair, I don't hate Cap moons or other placements. (I'd be hating myself, since I have two planets there). I just feel aggravated with some (not all) of them because it seems like no matter how hard I try, I just can never get it right. I do better with other placements, usually. I do get along with some of them, and there are some cool Cap-influenced people here on LL, but others are just too cold for me. I'm a Cancer moon. Cold is not how I roll. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 28, 2012 07:00 AM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
It makes me feel uncomfortable and then I just don't want to be around that person; I'd rather be around warmer people who act like they enjoy talking to me.
Nods. Uh huh. So..pay attn to the warmer (in your perception) people in your life. Problem solved.
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RegardesPlatero
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posted June 28, 2012 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
[b]It makes me feel uncomfortable and then I just don't want to be around that person; I'd rather be around warmer people who act like they enjoy talking to me.
Nods. Uh huh. So..pay attn to the warmer (in your perception) people in your life. Problem solved.[/B][/QUOTE]I'm trying to get there. I just feel frustrated because I have a need to know what I did wrong, and obviously I can't have an answer to that. Plus, it does hurt not to be liked. I'm trying to get to a point where I don't care, but I'm just not there yet. Rejection from people that I'd like to be friends with still hurts me a lot. Maybe it shouldn't, but again, I'm not to that detached point yet. Still working on it. Venting does help, since it lets me get that out, but it probably isn't good for me to dwell too much, in reflecting on it. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 28, 2012 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by Milkyshutter:
Hmm. I meant that we dream to just romp and frolic. We are so caught up not trying to show our weakness inside we crave for someone to just take us back to our innocent birth
I can't relate. Sure,Caps romp ( no need for helping hand there) but don't frolic. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 28, 2012 07:37 AM
I don't know how you're going to take this RP, but I've just had basically the same type of conversation with a 6 yr old who wails about being rejected from someone who they thought was their friend (the friend wanted another buddy at recess, who knows why, maybe because the friend didn't like what this kid had on that day-the reason is irrelevant). Focusing on the negative is a choice you make. You can just as easily focus on the people who are bringing good things into your life. But if someone wants to be unhappy, well, that is their prerogative. No one is making this kid feel a certain way. What's making them feel that way is their obsessive attn to that situation.IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted June 28, 2012 08:49 AM
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Lonake
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posted June 28, 2012 09:12 AM
I got it wrong with you. Your real solution is to avoid Capricorn Moons as you expressly stated your problem is with them. My bad.
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And, to be fair, I don't hate Cap moons or other placements. (I'd be hating myself, since I have two planets there). I just feel aggravated with some (not all) of them because it seems like no matter how hard I try, I just can never get it right. I do better with other placements, usually.
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They really don't like people talking to them, it seems. I'd say maybe let him come to you rather than try to be nice. Any kind of warmth or kindness will backfire and blow up in your face. And above all else, NEVER express your emotions or open up to them. That sends them running.
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Milkyshutter
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posted June 28, 2012 09:28 AM
Well, I guess it wasn't so well-put after all about the baby comment. Ha. I'll rephrase it using my own experience. Capricorns learn maturity faster than any other signs, they say. We get harder, stronger and wiser as we mature, but at the expense of concealing our innoncence/naivety. As if the old armor wasn't enough, we wear a new set of armor as we overcome each obstacle. For example, the way that tree rings accumulate every year. When I meet new people, what I would show them is the strength I gained throughout the years of experience, not my essence. Once I accept the person, I start revealing what is underneath the layers of protection. Not too directly. This is the chink that I mentioned in earlier post. The other person must make an effort to find that soft place. Sometimes, if the cappy is completely smitten, he will try to aggresively reveal that, but still, the other party must make an effort to find that small window. Once you pentrate into the deepest layer, (and I doubt not many capricorns would find someone who can) you will find a pure untainted spirit beneath him. This is the child that I mentioned. Capricorns won't allow their essence to get assimiliated. They choose to wear an armor to preserve their true essence. Well, anyway, it could be just me. I didn't know or felt this in my 20s. I thought capricorns were just hopeless sign with many troubles in life. Now that I'm in mid 30s, I had more time to reflect myself. Let me know if you guys still cant relate. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 28, 2012 09:37 AM
Cap Moons aggressively reveal, or conceal (?) [not sure if it's a typo] - cos I could handle the aggressively revealing part  am ah right, blugrey (!)  IP: Logged |
Milkyshutter
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posted June 28, 2012 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Cap Moons aggressively reveal, or conceal (?) [not sure if it's a typo] - cos I could handle the aggressively revealing part am ah right, blugrey (!)
Could you read again. I edited my post a bit. When you see our star sign, you see the goat, but the fish tail is inside the water. I try to reveal those parts to people that I trust, but still, in a witty and sarcastic way. If they can't read between the lines, I would believe that, that is how far our relationship can develop and accept that. Anyway...now its becoming like a riddle! ha.. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 28, 2012 09:48 AM
I am not quite sure that the fish part of the goat refers to this... IP: Logged |
Milkyshutter
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posted June 28, 2012 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I am not quite sure that the fish part of the goat refers to this...
It may not, but to me it was like a revelation, so to speak. I think I mentioned earlier on a different post. I think it was like 10 years ago, I read the book called Astrology of fate written by Liz Greene, and she mentioned that line when explaining about Capricorn. The fish tail that Capricorns have can never detach themselves out of the water. Some food for thoughts. Different people might interpret them differently. IP: Logged |
Astra
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posted June 28, 2012 10:01 AM
I have a Gemini Sun and Capricorn moon, so perhaps I can help. This combination can spot BS very well, so do not lie to them. Some guidelines to follow:1) Don't be clingy and overly emotional. A capricorn moon can make even a gemini sun become serious. Both shun drama queens and overly emotional types. It's perfectly ok to show emotion in private once you and the capricorn moon know each other well. Just don't have some big emotional display over something silly in public otherwise you will lose their respect instantly. Crying in public over losing a parent is one thing, but crying over getting a stain on a shirt is not acceptable. 2) Show that you can stand on your own two feet. It's perfectly fine to ask the capricorn moon for help on occasion when you are in trouble. They will help you in a heartbeat if they even remotely like you as a person. However, if they have to rescue you on a weekly basis, they will get annoyed. Show them that you can handle things on your own for the most part. If a capricorn moon asks you for help, then they must trust you on some level because this particular placement hates asking for help, but when they do, they will not ask someone they don't respect at least a little bit.
3) Be straightforward. Don't play games with them because they will be able to tell and will not trust you. Sometimes, the Gemini sun influence will kick in and they will turn the table on you and start manipulating you as a kind of "payback." If you want them to treat you with respect, then you better treat them with respect as well.
4) If you find out any embarrassing secrets about them, keep it a secret. They care A LOT about their reputation. If you want to truly hurt a capricorn moon, then revealing their darkest secrets to the public is the best way to go. However, be absolutely sure you are ready for the friendship to end if you do this because they will NEVER forgive you. Also be prepared for a strong possibility of them retaliating (they will know your weaknesses and use them against you). 5) Ask them for advice (on occasion). This implies that you respect them and value their input, which makes them feel good about themselves. 6) Be funny. This is such a serious moon placement that sometimes they forget to laugh! Joke around with them a bit to help them loosen up. They love to laugh and will treat you like gold if you share the same sense of humor as them. Be aware that a capricorn moon shows affection by helping you. If you want more hugs, then you need to tell them point blank. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 28, 2012 10:05 AM
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Originally posted by Milkyshutter:
It may not, but to me it was like a revelation, so to speak. I think I mentioned earlier on a different post. I think it was like 10 years ago, I read the book called Astrology of fate written by Liz Greene, and she mentioned that line when explaining about Capricorn. The fish tail that Capricorns have can never detach themselves out of the water. Some food for thoughts. Different people might interpret them differently.
Fishgoat was a form of supernatural being once in water,but agani,on land as a form of award; if indeed they can detach themselves from fish parts,it could signify past IP: Logged |
depth
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posted June 28, 2012 10:35 AM
My m0st recent ex was a cap m0on, scorpio venus. He broke up with me saying I was too career oriented while he wanted a stay at h0me, co0k, lo0k after the family type. I guess you'd have to s0mehow balance. Social and financial status did matter to him. Anything cheap flopped. He was very particular about brands and perfume aroma/stench(n0thing str0ng). No touchy touchy in public. No too much emo emo behind closed do0rs. Look feminine and be well dressed. My metallic green nail paint didn't impress him. -.- Too much of make up or accessories is n0t in with caps. My cancer venus dad and cap venus m0m like girly girls without much cake. The m0re mature you appear, the better. I also noticed that he to0k unnecessary things to heart. I would have to cho0se my words carefully so as n0t to offend his beliefs. Challenging traditi0n would lead to arguments.
But it's best to be yourself. When he 1st met me, he saw my aqua asc with a 1h saturn. His m0on was like "yeah! Demi cappie". His venus sq my asc added to the attraction. But when my cluster of sag planets kicked in and he learnt that I've 0nly generati0nal planets in cap and scorp, things began to fall apart. He found me "immature, impractical, disrespectful toward family and marriage(as in instituti0n), blabber m0uth who doesn't kn0w the diff b/w public and private life". I replied with a slap in public and his best friend in my net within two days. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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posted June 28, 2012 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
I got it wrong with you. Your real solution is to avoid Capricorn Moons as you expressly stated your problem is with them. My bad.
[QUOTE]And, to be fair, I don't hate Cap moons or other placements. (I'd be hating myself, since I have two planets there). I just feel aggravated with some (not all) of them because it seems like no matter how hard I try, I just can never get it right. I do better with other placements, usually.
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They really don't like people talking to them, it seems. I'd say maybe let him come to you rather than try to be nice. Any kind of warmth or kindness will backfire and blow up in your face. And above all else, NEVER express your emotions or open up to them. That sends them running.
[/QUOTE]I don't hate them as a group or feel like they are bad people. I just don't like how some (not all) of them treat me. I don't feel like I'm a bad person or selfish or anything for wanting people to act right and treat me as I want to be treated, especially when I try to be nice to them or at least not offend them. I don't feel, either, that I should just avoid an entire group of people. That won't really help things. I mean yeah, I can (and do) avoid the specific people that I have problems with, but I can't avoid every single Cap moon that I don't get along with. Plus, honestly, I would rather get along with people when it is possible; I hate fighting, tension, and conflict. I am going to have to get along with them, after all, since I will probably have to work with them or interact with them in some way. I'd rather know how to deal with them correctly and get them to treat me right and not be rude to me. I do recognize that they have good qualities. Again, I don't think that they are bad people, but I feel frustrated when they act like that (i.e., like I've described earlier). I would like them to actually be nice to me and let those qualities out, but many (not all) just shut me out even when I really try to get along. IP: Logged |
VenusDiSirius
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posted June 28, 2012 11:00 AM
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I replied with a slap in public and
his best friend in my net within two days.
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Odette
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posted June 28, 2012 12:08 PM
Regardes - Do you like everyone in this world? Have you ever felt annoyed by someone's presence? Have you ever had work or a project or something to get done - and simply didn't have time to chat to Tom, Dick or Harry? Are there times in your life when you just cannot be bothered with other people and need alone time? -- and in those times - when you need space ^^ if someone acted like the nicest person in the world - would you be nice back purely out of politeness.... Even though you wanted them to buzz off so you could be alone? IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 28, 2012 12:09 PM
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I don't feel like I'm a bad person or selfish or anything for wanting people to act rightget them to treat me right and not be rude to me. I would like them to actually be nice to me and let those qualities out
This is dangerous territory, RP - unlike you, others actions don't always revolve around pleasing others, and you're demanding this of them. Yes, some are people pleasing and cautious like you. But, some aren't. It's actually very controlling and I can see your Venus/Pluto conjunction playing a role here, with Venus ruling the Libra Sun. It's also a possibility that you're taking their actions too personally. And if you're so adamant on getting along with them, well what are you doing about it other than concerning yourself with how rude they are? Have you expressed your concerns to these people? What are you doing about it, in the real world? All rhetorical. If you won't let it go, as you say, then you have to do something about it, otherwise you're asking for chaos.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted June 28, 2012 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by Milkyshutter:
Could you read again. I edited my post a bit.
Yes I did, thank you for clarifying. I was hoping it wasn't an error  IP: Logged |
blugrey
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posted June 28, 2012 01:20 PM
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