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Topic: For FUN--Which Men are Most Likely to Cheat?
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sweet-scorpion Moderator Posts: 2427 From: PA, USA Registered: Apr 2012
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posted July 04, 2012 12:53 PM
I knew an Aqua guy with some serious, serious issues and a bad romantic life... he would compulsively cheat on his girlfriend. Online of course, hah. He did a lot of weird stuff over computers. Didn't have guts to just find some random girl close to where they lived. But he seemed to cheated on business trips and the girl was extremely suspicious of this until he finally broke down to admit yes, he went to some kind of strip club every time.
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PhoenixFire Knowflake Posts: 1617 From: The Crossing Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 05, 2012 01:30 PM
I will agree that perhaps mutable energy is related to cheating, as I am very mutable and have experienced it as the cheater and the mistress. In my past, the affair was with an Aquarius Sun Libra Moon conj Pluto, Scorp Asc. Venus in Cap, Mars in Aqua. Reasoning for the affair, fell out of love, confessed about it right away as I dislike living a double life. When I was the mistress, was during my single years, and I didn't know he was married until the end. He was surprisingly a double Capricorn, Cap Sun/Moon, did have the mutable Mars in Gemini, Venus in Sag exact conj to My Sun/Neptune. His reason for cheating, his wife a Scorpio had shut him out of her emotions/initimacy. I don't know if this was true or not, as after I broke it off, he continued having other affairs. I'm not so sure about Cancers not being prone to cheating. In my single years, I met many Cancers who were cheating on their spouses, and still run across this a lot. From my expreinces, I would say Cancer is high up on the cheating. The catch with Cancers, is that they are very secretive about it and direct with their lovers in that they will never leave their spouse/children, where as other signs may play the game, pretending that they will leave him/her when "the time is right". The Capricorn I expreinced, swore up and down this was the case when I found out, and even went to the extreme of proposing and buying me a ring. I have seen the same thing with other cheaters, that they will leave if only they could, etc. Cheating is a crummy act, but I must hand it to the Cancers for at least being as direct possible from the beginning, that the affair is strictly a means to an end. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 73210 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 05, 2012 01:37 PM
quote: Originally posted by PhoenixFire: I will agree that perhaps mutable energy is related to cheating, as I am very mutable and have experienced it as the cheater and the mistress. In my past, the affair was with an Aquarius Sun Libra Moon conj Pluto, Scorp Asc. Venus in Cap, Mars in Aqua. Reasoning for the affair, fell out of love, confessed about it right away as I dislike living a double life. When I was the mistress, was during my single years, and I didn't know he was married until the end. He was surprisingly a double Capricorn, Cap Sun/Moon, did have the mutable Mars in Gemini, Venus in Sag exact conj to My Sun/Neptune. His reason for cheating, his wife a Scorpio had shut him out of her emotions/initimacy. I don't know if this was true or not, as after I broke it off, he continued having other affairs. I'm not so sure about Cancers not being prone to cheating. In my single years, I met many Cancers who were cheating on their spouses, and still run across this a lot. From my expreinces, I would say Cancer is high up on the cheating. The catch with Cancers, is that they are very secretive about it and direct with their lovers in that they will never leave their spouse/children, where as other signs may play the game, pretending that they will leave him/her when "the time is right". The Capricorn I expreinced, swore up and down this was the case when I found out, and even went to the extreme of proposing and buying me a ring. I have seen the same thing with other cheaters, that they will leave if only they could, etc. Cheating is a crummy act, but I must hand it to the Cancers for at least being as direct possible from the beginning, that the affair is strictly a means to an end.
Thank you PF Very interesting info!
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MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 1971 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 06, 2012 11:33 PM
I had long term relationships with Gemini, Cancer and Capricorn. Almost serial cheaters with several other women.I'm married to a Scorpio. Of course I assume he is faithful or we wouldn't still be married. He is the most attentive, sweetest and affectionate man ever. <3. Scorpios get a bad rap. IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 6836 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted July 06, 2012 11:39 PM
Astra - my initial post was relating to Ami's article:She said: quote: Scorpio Sun–He goes high on the cheating list.
- Mentioning a "list" ^. My second post was explaining to you what I meant by my first post. I know that you did not personally mention statistics - nor did you say that Scorpio would be at the top of the cheaters list. IP: Logged |
Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 06, 2012 11:55 PM
GREAT topic quote: Astrology Truth or Myth: You Can Spot a Cheater by Looking at Their Chart July 4, 2012 by Nadia Gilchrist You get involved in a tingly new relationship. There’s chemistry, sizzle, potential … he could be The One. After finding out his birth information, you look at his chart. What you see horrifies you. He’s a cheater! How do you know? Well, he has aspect A, which you read somewhere was a cheating red-flag. Should you dump him? Not necessarily. There are some planetary aspects, usually involving Venus (love) and Mars (sex), that are associated with the “monogamously challenged.” Here’s a few, and the reasoning behind them: Mars or Venus in hard (square, opposition, conjunction) aspect to Neptune: the planet of idealism (Neptune) challenges the relationship planets. The tension between fantasy and reality creates constant dissatisfaction in relationships. Mars or Venus in hard aspect to Uranus: the planet of liberation juices up the relationship planets. Novelty is pursued (Mars) or desired (Venus), making it difficult to stay with one person. Mars in the Eighth House (especially in a Fire sign) in hard aspect to Pluto: the drive for sexual release is an obsession that one partner cannot fulfill. Mars is self-centered in the Fire signs. The Eighth House focuses its energies on taboo experiences, and this is amped up by Pluto. Venus in the Twelfth House of secrets and the unconscious (especially in dreamy Pisces): foggy personal values can lead to false starts and yearning after impossible dreams. This person can convince himself that cheating is ok (or that he’s not really cheating). Moon in hard aspect to Uranus: just when he gets comfortable (Moon), this person is jabbed by the Uranian urge to disrupt things. Boredom in established relationships is a problem.
The descriptions for all the above are accurate, but only to a point. These combinations do make for complicated relationship needs. But if one of these aspects is in your partner’s chart, don’t despair. You need to look at the rest of his chart to get the whole picture. What if his Seventh House (of relationships) ruler is in sober Saturn? And Saturn is in loyal Taurus? The condition of the Seventh House will say a lot about his relationship ideals. Most importantly, you must consider free will. There’s always a choice on how energies in the natal chart are expressed. To illustrate my point, let’s consider some positive manifestations of the above aspects: Mars or Venus in hard (square, opposition, conjunction) aspect to Neptune: Neptune’s creativity and idealism can be redirected into art or focused on helping others. The tension between Mars and Neptune can create a crusader for the underdog. Mars or Venus in hard aspect to Uranus: the need for excitement can be absorbed by a challenging, quirky partner. The energy can also be released in high-voltage athletics (Mars) or edgy, confrontational works of art (Venus). Mars in the Eighth House (especially in a Fire sign) in hard aspect to Pluto: this combination equals pure power, but it’s not overt. Here is someone who could excel at research and investigation. Boundary-blasting intensity is necessary to keep this Mars satisfied. This person might work with the dead or be drawn to macabre subjects. Venus in the Twelfth House, especially in Pisces: self-awareness is key. The more clued in he is to his Twelfth House needs, the more honest he’ll be in relationships. This could be an artist who lives a secluded life or someone who works with the sick (the Twelfth House also represents convalescence). Moon in hard aspect to Uranus: a partnership with built-in freedom (like separate residences) could soak up much of this restless energy. The Moon/Uranus person is happiest when he is engaged in something that satisfies his need for restless advancement. This is the mark of someone with an intuitive grasp of computers.
These challenging aspects represent unmet needs. The tension from the hard aspects will drive our potential “cheater” to meet these needs, but it doesn’t have to result in infidelity. If another outlet can be found, and the needs are satisfied, he can be as faithful as the next person. If he chooses to be.
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 9947 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2012 12:00 AM
ok NOW, H8 Fire Mars hard aspect to Pluto (!) Fess up Already knew about Mars/Venus to Uranus/Neptune so that was nothing new for me, same for Venus 12th. Classic. but but but, this extrah spacial attn to this particular placement has me intrigued. SO DARN SPECIFIC.IP: Logged |
Astra Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 07, 2012 09:40 AM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: Astra - my initial post was relating to Ami's article:She said: - Mentioning a "list" ^. My second post was explaining to you what I meant by my first post. I know that you did not personally mention statistics - nor did you say that Scorpio would be at the top of the cheaters list.
Oops! Sorry. I misunderstood.
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posted July 07, 2012 10:40 AM
I can definitely see how certain placements would cause a tendency to infidelity (for instance, Mars in fire or Gemini), but at the end of the day, I still think that this is one of those things that's more about hormones than astrology, the intersection of astrology and science (because I DO still respect science, and I don't think that astrology and science are necessarily fundamentally at odds). I've seen studies which show that men in positions of power have higher testosterone levels and thus are more likely to cheat (in order to get to a position of influence, one must already have a penchant for risk-taking, and cheating certainly speaks to that), and women who have higher estrogen levels and lower hip-to-waist ratios are more likely to cheat, which is probably why the infidelity rates are the same for men and women (and might even be slightly higher for women) only in the 20's - it's largely hormonal. The more virile or fertile you are, the hornier you are likely to be - this is nature's doing - and I don't think I need to point out the link between being horny and ending up in bed with someone else.IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 26, 2015 12:33 PM
It's the same with Saggy Mooners "He is the main cheater of the Zodiac. He may espouse high morals, but these can loosen when he sees a pretty face or nice body. Tie your Saggi to the bedpost."Always seeking the next adventure (<.< ) ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1012 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 26, 2015 04:29 PM
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Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 26, 2015 05:25 PM
It depends on the natal chart.I have Saturn trine Venus & Pluto square Venus. So the intensity and all the drama other people talk about here doesn't quite apply to me(I feel deep... bla bla bla). It's more about the messed up situation I always find myself in. I have Moon conjunct Uranus that makes the Saggie Moon even more thrill sicker. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 26, 2015 05:30 PM
Lol... I just notices you said he has Uranus opposition.He will be attracted to women that don't give him the time of day and once he gets them he'll turn Ice cold. I have noticed that on myself and my brother(Venus conjunct Uranus) ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 26, 2015 05:43 PM
Mars square/opposite Neptune is the bomb sexually speaking but can be such deceptive people. They will morphed to what ever you want them to be. They will secretly resent giving in to your desires without let it be known. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
polkadotstars Knowflake Posts: 1297 From: Registered: Feb 2015
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posted March 26, 2015 05:57 PM
I hate to be a Debbie Downer on this topic but I'm pretty sure like 90% of men cheat. It's not exactly "who" is going to cheat, it's "when". I've been cheated on in every relationship, except one. But the one guy that didn't cheat was veryyy close with another girl, and they started dating soon after we broke up, and are still together many years later. My dad cheated on my mom and almost left our family when I was young, my maternal grandfather was a womanizer, my maternal grandmother's dad left their family for another woman, my paternal grandfather's father left their family for another woman. And on and on and on  Sorry, hate to be the Debbie Downer here, ha! But yes, that is my opinion. IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 26, 2015 06:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: I hate to be a Debbie Downer on this topic but I'm pretty sure like 90% of men cheat. It's not exactly "who" is going to cheat, it's "when". I've been cheated on in every relationship, except one. But the one guy that didn't cheat was veryyy close with another girl, and they started dating soon after we broke up, and are still together many years later. My dad cheated on my mom and almost left our family when I was young, my maternal grandfather was a womanizer, my maternal grandmother's dad left their family for another woman, my paternal grandfather's father left their family for another woman. And on and on and on  Sorry, hate to be the Debbie Downer here, ha! But yes, that is my opinion.
Sounds about right. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1012 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 26, 2015 06:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: Mars square/opposite Neptune is the bomb sexually speaking but can be such deceptive people. They will morphed to what ever you want them to be. They will secretly resent giving in to your desires without let it be known.
Wow! My instinct says so, but I don't know if it comes from his mars opposite neptune. I sense he is not really sincere when he said, "Okay darling, if that is what you want me to do, I'll delete the contacts." While I suggest him NOTHING, I just give him my opinion about his flirting behavior. Just only later he blames me to force him to do something he dislikes. What the hell?? He has moon conjunct saturn & moon opposite venus. while venus, he only has it sextile with Asc. Oh, venus semiSquare Mars & moon semiSextile neptune, do they count? Mercury/mars trine pluto & neptune sextile pluto. IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 26, 2015 06:16 PM
I can tell your boyfriend have some serious problems steaming from his early childhood.Just tell him to be real and tell you the truth. He may feel like if he shows who he really is, you'll leave him. That's why he feels the need to conform to your ideal. I have pretty much every planet aspecting my Asc so I don't know in that sense. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 1430 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted March 26, 2015 06:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by polkadotstars: I hate to be a Debbie Downer on this topic but I'm pretty sure like 90% of men cheat. It's not exactly "who" is going to cheat, it's "when". I've been cheated on in every relationship, except one. But the one guy that didn't cheat was veryyy close with another girl, and they started dating soon after we broke up, and are still together many years later. My dad cheated on my mom and almost left our family when I was young, my maternal grandfather was a womanizer, my maternal grandmother's dad left their family for another woman, my paternal grandfather's father left their family for another woman. And on and on and on  Sorry, hate to be the Debbie Downer here, ha! But yes, that is my opinion.
Hi, I'm the 10% Yes, I'm a man. Yes I'm a Gemini. The only time I was in more than one relationship at a time, both ladies knew, and both were in other relationships too. Don't judge too much by that, I was very young, rebounding (though I didn't know what that was at the time), and basically, they were both cheating on their others with me. So, yes I've been the "other man". I've also been the one cheated on more than once. I've had my heart smashed into so many pieces that years later I'm still gluing it back together. Forgive the rant. It gets hard seeing topics go by about once a month casually accusing Gemini men or just men (and not women of course)... Its not 90% of men. Or if it is, I want a redo...
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hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1012 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 26, 2015 06:56 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: I can tell your boyfriend have some serious problems steaming from his early childhood.Just tell him to be real and tell you the truth. He may feel like if he shows who he really is, you'll leave him. That's why he feels the need to conform to your ideal. I have pretty much every planet aspecting my Asc so I don't know in that sense.
Well, my instincts same goes with your interpretation! I dismissed my instinct because I don't know if it was true. Thank you Virgo28!  He once shared about his childhood, I can see through his face, the sorrow? But he was like, "whatever" or in denial that those memories make him now. Since the first time I've met him, I can sense that this person is not the one who's true to himself and he hides behind the mask. When we argued about it, he became emotional and confusingly in denial. It's like he doesn't know about himself, like lost maybe? Idk, maybe he's being self-deception? Wow! I think this is a good information to know. Thanks again Virgo28!  IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 26, 2015 07:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by hearttreasure: Well, my instincts same goes with your interpretation! I dismissed my instinct because I don't know if it was true. Thank you Virgo28!  He once shared about his childhood, I can see through his face, the sorrow? But he was like, "whatever" or in denial that those memories make him now. Since the first time I've met him, I can sense that this person is not the one who's true to himself and he hides behind the mask. When we argued about it, he became emotional and confusingly in denial. It's like he doesn't know about himself, like lost maybe? Idk, maybe he's being self-deception? Wow! I think this is a good information to know. Thanks again Virgo28! 
I feel deeply touch with your words.... Talk to him about his lack of love during his early childhood. I think you are a wonderful person to try to understand him. ------------------ "If a man does not work passionately - even furiously - at being the best in the world at what he does, he fails his talent, his destiny, and his God." IP: Logged |
Virgo28 Knowflake Posts: 600 From: Mercury near the Sun(Florida) Registered: Nov 2013
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posted March 26, 2015 07:09 PM
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posted March 26, 2015 07:27 PM
I'm not so sure that it's all that predictable. It goes beyond natal and into synastry as well. Example, I've been cheated on by people who had no history of cheating and not cheated on by others who had a strong history of cheating. (Yes, I'm certain!) IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1012 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 26, 2015 07:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gemini Blues: Hi, I'm the 10%Yes, I'm a man. Yes I'm a Gemini. The only time I was in more than one relationship at a time, both ladies knew, and both were in other relationships too. Don't judge too much by that, I was very young, rebounding (though I didn't know what that was at the time), and basically, they were both cheating on their others with me. So, yes I've been the "other man". I've also been the one cheated on more than once. I've had my heart smashed into so many pieces that years later I'm still gluing it back together. Forgive the rant. It gets hard seeing topics go by about once a month casually accusing Gemini men or just men (and not women of course)... Its not 90% of men. Or if it is, I want a redo...
Hi Gemini Blues! My bf has sun in Gemini too, he has been cheated on me twice. I blame my venus in pisces to very empathetic, understanding, having unconditional love and acceptance to bring him into my life again after he cried in front of me to apologize. He still has the tendency to go "adventure" (Sag moon) and his restless nature sometimes gets my nerve, I can sense it through his body language and his communication. But lately after I try to communicate my feelings and try to give him the other side of perspective of his behavior. He has changed a lot although not an easy one because I must deal with his Cancer mars conjunct mercury in 12th house. He has lots of secrecy too I guess. I hope my bf has learnt what happened in the past like you did.  IP: Logged |
hearttreasure Knowflake Posts: 1012 From: Registered: Jan 2015
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posted March 26, 2015 07:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: I feel deeply touch with your words.... Talk to him about his lack of love during his early childhood. I think you are a wonderful person to try to understand him.
quote: Originally posted by Virgo28: ......
Thank you Virgo28! Yeah, I try hard to understand him and I learn a lot from this forum. Thanks again for your email!  Edit: and I lost your email after I refreshd the page?  IP: Logged | |