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ariesforever
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posted July 08, 2012 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesforever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm an Aries and I'm in love with a Cancer guy. I show him how much I care for him, I send him cute texts and show an interest in his family and his mental state telling him I want him happy always. See, I know Cancers pretty well. He responds sometimes But he can't stand me, he full on hates and always says he would never date me ever. So I told him, I want to be friends and I just didn't want him out of my life. He won't even consider me a friend. He gets angry with me for the smallest things then block me off everything and ignore me. He has done it so many times and I apologize every time.He has said a lot of hurtful things to me, I swear he does these things just to try and get rid of me. But as an Aries, I don't give up easily. He won't tell me the real reason he doesn't like me, he avoids me and now just flat out ignores me. I would do anything to win him over. How could I get him to tell me the truth, then consider me a friend? My feelings for him are really strong, and it's been made clear. I thought Cancer's liked to be loved and needed? Why does he hate me?

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FireMoon
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posted July 08, 2012 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They like to be loved and needed but only when they feel comfortable enough to let you see past their shell. Which even if they're in love with you is probably not going to be all the time. Their moods can change quickly and they want to know they're not completely vulnerable. If you call too much attention to their "sweetness" they can get really freaked out and withdraw completely. They really are sweet but only when they choose to show that side of themselves to you and if you talk about it too much they feel emasculated. I would say stop trying to get him to notice you for a while and give him space and let him come to you... Aries and Cancer really are different in a lot of ways lol you just can't be as aggressive with them as other signs, but I understand your frustration with Cancer guys...

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RunAroundScreaming
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posted July 09, 2012 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, I'm sorry honey.

I have an aries friend, she's female, who really cares about me. I think she's fascinating, but I also dislike her. I think she's annoying and strange.. O_o I just don't get her facial expressions or the way she reacts to things. But at the same time, I can't help but be infected by her enthusiasm and how she pulls me around taking me places and how she's always just so happy and affectionate. I love that. I chalk it up to her just being shy...or withdrawn maybe? And that's why her facial expressions are weird. Like, somebody I know also noticed it and thought she acted "fake." She does. She comes off that way. But she's a sweetheart. For some reason she acts that way but she's not really fake. We have composite sun conjunct venus but not much else going on composite or synastry-wise. I don't understand why she is so obsessed with me. But I really do appreciate that she is. Haha. And I consider her a positive influence in my life. She is so so nice to me! And positive! We've actually talked about the Aries-Cancer attraction before. I was telling her how I looked at her composite with her boyfriend, a scorpio, and that I thought they were soulmates! She was like, "There's no doubt about that. When I think about how much I love him it makes me want to cry." haha aw she's so sweet. We started talking about how she was drawn to shy people, being so extroverted and energetic herself, and how that was funny, because her boyfriend is so so shy and antisocial. But then, all of a sudden, her voice got soft and quiet and quivered a little, and she told me "And..Cancers? How compatible am I with cancers?" And I was taken aback a little. Like, I had always read about the aries-cancer fatal attraction on the internet but I hadn't ever talked to someone in real life about it. And well, I explained to her. I mean, I totally knew where she was coming from. Aries are just my soft spot. And I could tell cancers were hers.

The best thing I can say to you is

I feel it most likely will not work out, but this isn't to ruin all hope for you. I'm still hopeful it might work out with me an aries one day (I have to admit that they are everything I look for in a guy, and I make best friends with aries both male and female all the time), but my experience is that at the same time that I love them, I also hate them. It doesnt work out in the end…but I can tell you that these two signs might not mix well together but they just cant seem to get enough of each other for some reason…Aries teaches Cancer to be more tough and independent while Cancer teaches Aries how to be a little more caring and loving. It's more like opposites attract with these two signs. They're not supposed to be together but they cant get enough of each other..weird. And the love is definitely very intense. And they have the capacity to change each other, and put each other in their place and make each other face what they need to change about themselves. But it won't be easy. Passionate, definitely. Easy, no. Sexual attraction is obvious at first for both these signs and they're definitely fascinated by each other, but, they are total opposites. It's hard to make that work in the long run. But I think it's worth it, because well, the aries in my life are just such a positive influence. They really bring me out of my shell. You have no idea.

I think I understand why your cancer guy feels the way he does. I have an aries friend who I get along splendidly with, we do have the love stellium after all, but at the same time, I also hate him. And though we have an attraction there and definitely some very sweet moments, I would never go out with him. Because he's just scary! That's how it is for me and most aries. There's an attraction, but they're scary! I'm in love with another aries. He scares me only a teensy weensy bit, but its very minor . I think that you will find the right cancer one day who won't think you're scary and insensitive. =0) Of course you will. Best of luck! He probably loves you but also hates you, I'm just saying. He loves you at least a little bit. He has to. There is too much fascination between these two signs. <3

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ail221
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posted July 09, 2012 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am a Cancer sun and Personally when people come on TOO strong emotionally towards me. I detach even faster. I have a Sagittarius friend and he was close friends with my Aquarius friend within the first day of meeting he wanted to be "besties" It freaked me out, he was too overly enthusiastic to be friends immediately. I knew he wasn't interested in me romantically because I knew he was Bi-sexual leaning more towards the male preference but it still through me off. To add he was a bit possessive I mean chaperoning me back and forth from class in college and I was the older one.

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Seeing Stars 7.21
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posted July 09, 2012 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seeing Stars 7.21     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well you dont see that everyday...

Im a cancer male. Wish i could help but either you've done something to **** him off or hes just one messed up a$$hole

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Yin
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posted July 09, 2012 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Seeing Stars 7.21:
Wish i could help but either you've done something to **** him off or hes just one messed up a$$hole

Ahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaahhaha. RIGHT ON!

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ariesforever
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posted July 10, 2012 01:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesforever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks for all the responses, im trying to wait for him to come to me but its really hard. not sure what to do, i still dončt understand what i have done to get him to hate me

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Lazyscarecrow
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posted July 10, 2012 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lazyscarecrow     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like there isn't much you can do. He doesn't seem like someone to continue to wait on, anyway especially if he's treating you like that.

You will ultimately do what you feel is best, but you could most likely be yourself more around a Sagittarius or another Aries.

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ariesforever
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posted July 15, 2012 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesforever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by FireMoon:
They like to be loved and needed but only when they feel comfortable enough to let you see past their shell. Which even if they're in love with you is probably not going to be all the time. Their moods can change quickly and they want to know they're not completely vulnerable. If you call too much attention to their "sweetness" they can get really freaked out and withdraw completely. They really are sweet but only when they choose to show that side of themselves to you and if you talk about it too much they feel emasculated. I would say stop trying to get him to notice you for a while and give him space and let him come to you... Aries and Cancer really are different in a lot of ways lol you just can't be as aggressive with them as other signs, but I understand your frustration with Cancer guys...

Also welcome to LL


i didn't think cancer's detach at all.. holy, its been 2 weeks and i still haven't got a respons from the cancer guy, i try to talk every now and then but get nothing

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butterflyxoxxo
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posted July 15, 2012 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you dont deserve to be treated like that, seriously. i would ice this guy out 100%


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RunAroundScreaming
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posted July 15, 2012 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
you dont deserve to be treated like that, seriously. i would ice this guy out 100%


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Lonake
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posted July 15, 2012 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He thinks you're creepy and he's shown you in multiple ways that he doesn't want you around. Time to back off and learn the meaning of the word no. It doesn't matter if you're female and he's male, think if the genders were reversed how this situation would look. Uh huh. Find someone who appreciates what you have to give, and give this guy some peace.

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ariesforever
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posted July 15, 2012 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesforever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
He thinks you're creepy and he's shown you in multiple ways that he doesn't want you around. Time to back off and learn the meaning of the word no. It doesn't matter if you're female and he's male, think if the genders were reversed how this situation would look. Uh huh. Find someone who appreciates what you have to give, and give this guy some peace.

oh. you must be right, i just screwed up too much by still trying..

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ariesforever
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posted July 15, 2012 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesforever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
you dont deserve to be treated like that, seriously. i would ice this guy out 100%


thank you

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posted July 15, 2012 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
He thinks you're creepy and he's shown you in multiple ways that he doesn't want you around. Time to back off and learn the meaning of the word no. It doesn't matter if you're female and he's male, think if the genders were reversed how this situation would look. Uh huh. Find someone who appreciates what you have to give, and give this guy some peace.

I have to agree. There may be a Cancer guy out there for you, but it's not this guy. Part of loving a person is respecting their boundaries and your persistence is not romantic, it's disrespectful at this point. Cancers know pretty quickly what they want and what they don't want, if he says no then he isn't deluded, he has felt you out and you don't make him feel the way he wants to feel with someone he likes.

Another quick mention. You said in the beginning of your post that you know Cancers because you "send him cute texts and show an interest in his family and his mental state telling him I want him happy always". These are superficial gestures. I know your intention is not to be superficial. You simply want to show that you prize him enough to want to spend considerable amounts of time paying attention to him. The problem is, Cancers need you to genuinely and instinctively be a person who is naturally interested in all these things (if these are the individual's particular interests), not a person who does those things because you think it will make them like you.

Think of a Cancer as a blind and deaf person, you can stand in front of them, jump around, wave your hands, and shout, "I LOVE YOU" with little result (besides offending their sense of smell after working up such a sweat). It is more effective to sit next to them and offer your warmth, embrace them with gentleness, and offer a hand when they need it. It sounds like you have warn out your welcome with this particular Cancer, but don't look at it as a loss. Look at this as a win in learning how to know when a person is interested in you or not.

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ariesforever
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posted July 15, 2012 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesforever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Xiiro:
I have to agree. There may be a Cancer guy out there for you, but it's not this guy. Part of loving a person is respecting their boundaries and your persistence is not romantic, it's disrespectful at this point. Cancers know pretty quickly what they want and what they don't want, if he says no then he isn't deluded, he has felt you out and you don't make him feel the way he wants to feel with someone he likes.

Another quick mention. You said in the beginning of your post that you know Cancers because you "send him cute texts and show an interest in his family and his mental state telling him I want him happy always". These are superficial gestures. I know your intention is not to be superficial. You simply want to show that you prize him enough to want to spend considerable amounts of time paying attention to him. The problem is, Cancers need you to genuinely and instinctively be a person who is naturally interested in all these things (if these are the individual's particular interests), not a person who does those things because you think it will make them like you.

Think of a Cancer as a blind and deaf person, you can stand in front of them, jump around, wave your hands, and shout, "I LOVE YOU" with little result (besides offending their sense of smell after working up such a sweat). It is more effective to sit next to them and offer your warmth, embrace them with gentleness, and offer a hand when they need it. It sounds like you have warn out your welcome with this particular Cancer, but don't look at it as a loss. Look at this as a win in learning how to know when a person is interested in you or not.


I did it because I actually cared, but you're right, I messed up too much, I see what I did wrong and this can't be fixed.

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posted July 15, 2012 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, Xiiro. You make such a good point and that was perfectly written

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posted July 15, 2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun signs aside. I have someone who does this with me. No offence but the more he persists the more it ****** me off and the more determined I am to get as far away from him as possible. I find him ignorant to not take no for an answer and just give the hell up! But when your'e in love, as you are, that can be damn hard to do. Maybe this is a lesson in strength for you. To use willpower and just take no for an answer. It hurts I know.

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lalalinda
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posted July 15, 2012 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello ariesforever! Welcome to LL


I get where your coming from.
I'd walk away too and chalk it up to experience.
I think you have a beautiful pure heart and there is someone who will adore you for it.

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posted July 15, 2012 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesforever:
oh. you must be right, i just screwed up too much by still trying..

Don't be so hard on yourself xxx

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posted July 15, 2012 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesforever:
i didn't think cancer's detach at all.. holy, its been 2 weeks and i still haven't got a respons from the cancer guy, i try to talk every now and then but get nothing

They detach!!! Oh hell yes. To me they are the hardest sign to figure out and they infuriate me! They are the kings and queens of the silent treatment and us fire types have no time for baby games like that.

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posted July 15, 2012 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my sister is a cancer and she was married to an aries guy for 5 years.it ended due to irresponsibility on his part, but i think they still love each other.

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ariesforever
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posted July 15, 2012 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesforever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Libreo:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ariesforever:
[b] i didn't think cancer's detach at all.. holy, its been 2 weeks and i still haven't got a respons from the cancer guy, i try to talk every now and then but get nothing


They detach!!! Oh hell yes. To me they are the hardest sign to figure out and they infuriate me! They are the kings and queens of the silent treatment and us fire types have no time for baby games like that.[/B][/QUOTE]

i feel like its my fault, its hard to let go because he means a lot but i guess i was trying to understand more than he just doesn't like me and no should be done

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posted July 15, 2012 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesforever     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Hello ariesforever! Welcome to LL


I get where your coming from.
I'd walk away too and chalk it up to experience.
I think you have a beautiful pure heart and there is someone who will adore you for it.



thank you, i appreciate the words

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posted July 15, 2012 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ariesforever:
i feel like its my fault, its hard to let go because he means a lot but i guess i was trying to understand more than he just doesn't like me and no should be done

That's because they are masters of manipulation, making others feel guilty and playing the victim. I apologise to my fellow members who are Cancer influenced, you know I respect you. Admittedly I don't have a lot of Cancer in my chart which may be why the topic of Cancer gets me going so much. I do lack understanding. I just have such a hard time tolerating their mind games. I have a heavily fire influenced mother and growing up I remember her always saying how she couldn't stand sulky sooky men. I don't know why I don't have this issue with Pisces and Scorpio, but then, I have those 2 in my chart.
DON'T FEEL GUILTY! Just back off gracefully.

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