posted July 14, 2012 01:19 AM            

Can they express a lot of emotion, or are they always rational ?

posted July 14, 2012 01:22 AM            

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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage." - Lao Tzu

posted July 14, 2012 04:51 AM            

i'd like to add that they're inclined to have unrealistic standards because they're on the search for perfection. on the other extreme, they're inclined to fix things constantly. finds impure intentions extremely distasteful and does not like coarse behavior. at least, in public. definitely likes sensuality but not when it is shared with everyone else. they just really value purity. needs to feel appreciated for the things that they do for you because those things are usually subtle and are easily overlooked. you will impress them if you remember details about them. the smaller the detail, the more significant. finds it extremely difficult to deal with disappointment, especially so when they disappoint others or themselves. needs to connect on an mental level first before they feel comfortable expressing their affections for you and needs to know where they stand with you. because of this, they would be unlikely to tell you that they love you first. more likely to show you than to verbalize by making time for you when they are obviously busy, dropping off your favorite lunch at work, doing favors for you, etc.

posted July 17, 2012 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by scorpy_oh:

can't speak for a 1st house venus. i have my virgo venus in the 5th. if i tell someone that i love them, i really do mean it. however, love is not enough for me to stay. i need to feel like i am getting what i need from a relationship: mental stimulation, romance, fun, the whole package. if not, then i struggle with my feelings for them. this is where the constant analyzing comes in.

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i have venus virgo 10th, but this statement pretty much sums it up for me as well. and virgo venus is very passionate once we feel safe and happy.

posted July 18, 2012 12:49 PM            

Virgo Venus is usually an extremely thoughtful partner and friend. I do have definite pet peeves though and I can't help but to regularly assess my partners/love interests. It's not always a bad thing though, because I think Virgo Venus people are just very clear-minded and tend to know exactly what we want out of a relationship. We are not 'settlers'.

posted July 19, 2012 08:58 PM            

1. Have you honestly ever been in a committed relationship where you didn't eye, or continue talking to other potentials?

2. Have you had phone sex, hooked up with an ex, hooked up with anyone other than the girlfriend behind her back?

3. Have you flirted with anyone while being in a committed relationship?

4. Have you ever had bi sex, gay sex, watch gay porn, get aroused by gay men, etc?
Or have you had fantasies about being raped or forced into sex? Or forced by another male?

5. Have you ever dressed up as a girl or wore makeup and liked it?

6. How long does it take for you to recover from a relationship? (The longest and shortest durations)

7. Do you try to work on the imperfections in your relationship or do you tend to leave and convince yourself it's not worth it?

8. Have you been in on off relationships?

9. When you have sex with your girl, have you ever fantasized that it was someone else, ever?

10. Do you feel like you can always find an even better girl than the one you have?

11. Do you feel like if there was an issue in your relationship and if atthe same time another girl was making you feel better, that you would end your current r/s or would you keep both girls, one for stability and to say to he world that you have a girl and the other to keep you comfort?

Since this forum is anonymous I hope that everyone can be open and honest about these things. I just wanted to see if there is a trend. So far I feel there is but I don't have enough of a sample size to claim anything.

I don't mean to insult anyone. I just want test the waters.

posted July 19, 2012 11:28 PM            

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i have a friend who is a leo sun with virgo venus and he always seems to find something wrong with every girl he dates, they never quiet measure up.

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That's par for the course with Virgo Venus. HOPEFULLY he's rejecting them for valid reasons instead of shallow reasons. However, if he's young and super confident (and with Leo Sun, this is very possible), it probably will be for really little nitpicky (possibly shallow) things.

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They will keep an eye on how you behave etc while pretending to be 100% committed. But if someone of something else comes up or you disappointed them in some way they will reconsider your position in their lives in an instant.

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I have a Virgo Venus and THIS isn't quite as bad as it sounds. Some of the flakier signs seem to get offended when you no longer want to date them because you figured out that they smoke pot every weekend (and you don't)/ that they have a very sordid past/ or that they essentially just have different values/interests/personality traits all around. They think that we were never 100% committed in the first place, but that's absolutely not true (at least not for me). I am committed to someone until I find out that we just aren't compatible on some major level. Myself for instance, I have a very high level of integrity and it is hard for me to respect someone who lies constantly or who has no follow through when I need them the most or who constantly treats other people like crap. So it's like flipping a switch. Once I've figured out that this person consistently has one of these traits or does one of these things, it's a total turnoff. So I just decide to go on my merry way. I think some of the more sensitive signs see that as cold and unfeeling. I just see it as not wasting my time or theirs.

posted July 19, 2012 11:31 PM            

Virgo Venuses have a lot of deal breakers. The difference between us and most people is that we hold to our deal breakers.

posted July 19, 2012 11:36 PM            

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I have a Virgo Venus and THIS isn't quite as bad as it sounds. Some of the flakier signs seem to get offended when you no longer want to date them because you figured out that they smoke pot every weekend (and you don't)/ that they have a very sordid past/ or that they essentially just have different values/interests/personality traits all around. They think that we were never 100% committed in the first place, but that's absolutely not true (at least not for me). I am committed to someone until I find out that we just aren't compatible on some major level. Myself for instance, I have a very high level of integrity and it is hard for me to respect someone who lies constantly or who has no follow through when I need them the most or who constantly treats other people like crap. So it's like flipping a switch. Once I've figured out that this person consistently has one of these traits or does one of these things, it's a total turnoff. So I just decide to go on my merry way. I think some of the more sensitive signs see that as cold and unfeeling. I just see it as not wasting my time or theirs.

I'm not sure where people are getting this infidelity thing with Virgo Venus... Maybe more for the men with Virgo Venus than with the women? I've never had the desire to cheat and it usually seems immature to me when people do. Personally, it seems like Virgo Venus itself would have the very very high ideals of Virgo in love and therefore would not want to cheat to keep the relationship and their own personal honor intact. However, I could also see that Virgoan idealism torn apart very easily and then the Virgo Venus becoming jaded and insecure, which could lead to cheating I guess...

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posted July 19, 2012 11:58 PM            

"They are too into me" huh? Are you sure the girl didn't secretly break up with them or there is some other secret inadequacy that they are feeling? Any Virgo position usually feels inadequate in some way, but will make up for it by being overconfident.

That being said, I can understand your friends not wanting someone totally clinging to them 24/7. Lots of people with Virgo placements are independent, loner types and we don't like people who can't take care of themselves or need us to play mommy/daddy. I know that I personally couldn't take someone being around ALL of the time. It would drive me bonkers. I think that there are certain personality types who thrive on clinging to each other (in which case, they should be the ones to date each other) and some who need to be more independent.

posted July 20, 2012 12:12 AM            

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Hahaha...

"They are too into me" huh? Are you sure the girl didn't secretly break up with them or there is some other secret inadequacy that they are feeling? Any Virgo position usually feels inadequate in some way, but will make up for it by being overconfident.

That being said, I can understand your friends not wanting someone totally clinging to them 24/7. Lots of people with Virgo placements are independent, loner types and we don't like people who can't take care of themselves or need us to play mommy/daddy. I know that I personally couldn't take someone being around ALL of the time. It would drive me bonkers. I think that there are certain personality types who thrive on clinging to each other (in which case, they should be the ones to date each other) and some who need to be more independent.

And you know... I agree with you. Some people don't know how to appreciate what they have. It is a shame that you do not feel appreciated by women Aquaguy. You seem relatively level-headed.

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posted July 20, 2012 01:06 AM            

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Originally posted by enchantress299:
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I have a Virgo Venus and THIS isn't quite as bad as it sounds. Some of the flakier signs seem to get offended when you no longer want to date them because you figured out that they smoke pot every weekend (and you don't)/ that they have a very sordid past/ or that they essentially just have different values/interests/personality traits all around. They think that we were never 100% committed in the first place, but that's absolutely not true (at least not for me). I am committed to someone until I find out that we just aren't compatible on some major level. Myself for instance, I have a very high level of integrity and it is hard for me to respect someone who lies constantly or who has no follow through when I need them the most or who constantly treats other people like crap. So it's like flipping a switch. Once I've figured out that this person consistently has one of these traits or does one of these things, it's a total turnoff. So I just decide to go on my merry way. I think some of the more sensitive signs see that as cold and unfeeling. I just see it as not wasting my time or theirs.

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I think most people do this. What I was referring to is: Minor things get blown out of proportion with them, and they hold it against you, but unlike a Scorpio or a cancer, these guys have zero emotions to let you in on their peeve. Instead of having someone try to change that minor aspect, they keep the other person hanging until they can hop off to the next person.

I guess to them it's not cheating because technically they didn't start a r/s during that first r/s. But they sure make a strong effort to keep the next train schedule on hand. they do that by making "friends" with this new person.

What I mean by minor is: not having their sense of fashion, not cooking the right way, not wearing the makeup the right way, not having your hair done up in the right way.

It's about total perfection to the point it's exhausting. A person can do so much to feed the need of perfection and low self esteem projection. After a while the other person gives up and THAT is when the virgo in venus makes it his excuse to up and leave, instead of doing some self reflection and realizing the root cause of a failing r/s is their need for perfection.

I think they want perfection even in themselves that's why they are prone to depression and low self esteem. They don't appreciate the beauty in imperfection and the FACT that NOTHING is PERFECT. It's like a mirage they chase, either about themselves, their careers, sadly about hte people they love. They just are not satisfied.

While other signs might bask in imperfections and quirks of their partner or their own life story, these guys don't. WHile other signs are content after the other person proves certain aspects to a certain extent, this sign will NEVER be content. NEVER.

There is always an ambivalence.

Ironically, the moment they lose their career or their house they realize it's true value. But sometimes it's a little too late.

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I'm not sure where people are getting this infidelity thing with Virgo Venus... Maybe more for the men with Virgo Venus than with the women? I've never had the desire to cheat and it usually seems immature to me when people do. Personally, it seems like Virgo Venus itself would have the very very high ideals of Virgo in love and therefore would not want to cheat to keep the relationship and their own personal honor intact. However, I could also see that Virgoan idealism torn apart very easily and then the Virgo Venus becoming jaded and insecure, which could lead to cheating I guess...

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Cheating is not the physical cheating here it's more like this.

1. Venus virgo(VV) falls for person.
2. Person cares for VV; VV cares for person.
3. VV does things that person does not llike, but person lets it slide. VV however does not let anything slide.

4. VV begins to ponder all the defects in the relationship, in their love, in the person's love, in the relationship's love, in the dog's love, in the cat's love...lol.
VV goes over the reasons for being in this relationship or any relationship atm. VV wonders if he/she even wants to be here. VV worries if he/she is missing out on a better option. VV gets confused... :P

5. VV becomes distant and watches the other person like a hawk and a ceo. VV is not as affectionate. The other person now develops doubts... What's going on here?

6. Other person asks VV what's going on. VV says, "Oh nothing." Other person is put on a defensive.

7. Both start doubting each other and self.

8 VV finds a friend on facebook or a friend added from a dating site a LOOONG time ago to vent with. To VV, this is not cheating yet. They are only talking. VV and new friend start chatting late, helping each other cope etc.

9 Other person feels left out and starts suspecting something. Other person feels let down and betrayed. There is no communication here. And the person VV should have been communicating with is not being told a thing. Yet the person, VV should not be chatting, is the person VV spends more time with.

10. Other person realizes this and gets upset. VV dislikes this because it's not perfection. The other person says, " Go Flip your perfection." VV gets offended! Yes....VV gets offended.

11. Other person feels hurt, betrayed and misunderstood. VV can't understand how the other person expresses emotions in such a manner. Oh my, being human is imperfect....tsk tsk.

12. VV decides that the other person is not worth it, but won't break up just yet. VV is waiting for the other person to rectify their mistake since it's all the otehr person's fault. VV starts talking to the friend on fb....

13. VV emotionally distances themselves from the other person.

14. VV then moves on to the next person because hte first just was't a good match and didn't understand things.

posted July 21, 2012 03:12 PM            

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no he's not making it up , i see it in action. i really think you have to do without to truly appreciate something, i have read that is one of the lessons of venus chiron, which i have.

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Ah. I see. Well, I agree that you have to do without something to really appreciate it (I also have the Venus-Chiron aspect- mine's the square), so I get you on that... BUT, that being said, if you have TOO MUCH of something (like a partner's unrealistic expectations, blind devotion, pure jealousy when you so much as look at a person of the opposite sex even when you haven't made a promise to this person), it can get a bit claustrophobic and tedious. It's still better to have balanced relationships and outlooks. I've been on both sides of the coin, so I can kind of see each perspective.

Dreaming- To be fair, I've known a few other Virgo Venuses (I'm also one), and I've also known some of the male Virgo Venuses. The ones that I've met have always been fairly level headed, mature, and extremely dedicated to their partners. They would NEVER cheat (not even emotional cheating, which is what you're describing), and were in fact horrified by cheating (like I am). Sooo... I think that I just haven't seen the 'negative' side of the Virgo Venus. BUT, that being said, I understand that it exists and I've been lucky enough thus far not to run into it. I thought for a long time that everyone always blew up the Scorpio Sun image into something it wasn't because all the Scorpio Suns that I knew weren't manipulative, vengeful, secretive, etc. Then I met one who was extremely immature and was ALL of those negative Scorpio things- and he was terrible to other people. That's when I said- ok, I see what everyone else means. But, I still realize that most Scorpios don't treat everyone that way or to that extent.

In any case, it sounds like you've had some very heartbreaking experiences with the Virgo Venuses, and I'm sorry that you've had to deal with that.

I could see the negative of the Virgo Venus being the extreme nitpicking and being disappointed in the other person not living up to the ideal and then assuming that they should know that they need to do something about it.