posted July 21, 2012 03:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Gem-Gurl:
Well thats just silly. They must get over it!!

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posted July 21, 2012 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
What's your moon sign?

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posted July 21, 2012 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Gem-Gurl:
Cancer!

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posted July 21, 2012 04:54 PM            

My biggest issue with Cap moons that I know in real life (as opposed to Cap moons that I've encountered here) is communication. They are cold and avoidant with me and I feel like I overwhelm them by having emotions and being expressive. They don't seem to want to spend time with me. (Even my mother--she seems supremely irritated if I make small talk with her, and will tell me that I'm 'bothering' her if I feel chatty or will get irritated if I invite her to do something with me and it's a bad time for her. My mom isn't a bad person, but more and more, I can see that Cap Venus and its influence). It doesn't mesh well with all of my four water placements.

posted July 21, 2012 05:37 PM            

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Originally posted by WaterBearingMaiden:
I'm an Aqua girl with a Cappy moon. I feel that I'm more a Capricorn than an Aquarius, since the moon rules how we think and feel, emotion wise. Hmm.... I wouldn't say that I have a problem with people touching me, but I do get uncomfortable with displays of affection or emotion sometimes, even though I can be really emotional myself. The thing is, us Cappy moons aren't any less emotional than any of the other moon signs. We're just uncomfortable SHOWING it. It makes us feel vulnerable, and we don't like that. We like our emotions in check. Once we're comfortable around another person, we'll normally open up and be a bit more affectionate. However, don't be surprised if your friend stands there with her arms crossed frowning at you. It just means she doesn't know how to open up and/or react yet

One of my best friends is a Pisces with a Cancer moon, and she is a train wreck when it comes to emotions. She can be very moody and demonstrative whereas I keep a lot to myself and come off as unaffected, or "cold."

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You don't have to answer this if you don't want, but do you ever tell people that you don't know how to react/do you ever indicate in other ways that you don't dislike the person?

I ask because personally, unless someone clearly explained that to me, I would not assume that, if someone acted that way. I would assume that I creeped them out and made them uncomfortable. I would be really embarrassed and feel bad about it. I would then ignore, defriend, block, and avoid them because I would feel like that would be the right thing to do: I'd feel ashamed (even though I honestly didn't mean to make them uncomfortable) and wouldn't feel comfortable being around them after that. That's what happened with a few Cap mooners that I've known.

posted July 22, 2012 03:05 AM            

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Originally posted by thisisaquarius:
I'm an aqua sun, cap moon girl too and have run into the same problem. People touch me often and, even though I don't hate it, if I'm not expecting it it's startling.

Right now I'm more comfortable with it, but only since my best friend (an extremely touchy taurus sun) has been working with me to get over my distaste for being touched. What helped for me was to have her /ask/ before she touched me. It might feel weird at first, but by giving me a choice--like, "I want to hold your hand, is that okay?" or "I want to hug you before I go."--I felt a lot more at ease to actually let go of my inhibitions regarding skinship.

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huh. why would she hold ur hand?

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"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage." - Lao Tzu

posted July 22, 2012 05:46 AM            

Perhaps this is really a Saturn thing?

Someone with Aqua Sun and Cap stellium warned us that if any of us would attempt to ever touch/tickle him, he'd cut off all our fingers one by one. He is being serious!

I've Saturn aspecting Ascendant and I feel very inhibited to invade someone's aura. I wouldn't know how to hug someone without coming across unnatural or eerie. However, I don't mind receiving hugs at all.

posted July 22, 2012 06:38 AM            

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It would depend. If I knew the person well, like a close friend/boyfriend/family member, I might let them know if it kept bothering me after a while. Usually, if something bothers me though, I'll do a few different things. I have a tendency to withdraw. I'll get very quiet and will be very short. If I don't want to have anything to do with someone, I'll normally ignore them, be very short, sarcastic (in a bad way), and give them the cold shoulder/avoid them. I think Cappy moons act in a very "subtle" way when it comes to those things, hoping you'll get the message. If I want something to do with someone, I'll usually make an effort. I'll talk to you, or go out of my way to make contact. Even if I don't go out of my way, I'll still respond when you try to talk to me.

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So, if a Cap moon doesn't respond, I should assume that I'm right in thinking that they dislike me?

At this point, I've written off a lot of the ones that I've posted about, as they are hopeless and I have given up completely on them, but I still want to understand because I can't avoid every single Cap moon that I know--nor would I want to, as there are some good ones out there. I just feel so aggravated by certain behaviors of theirs.

posted July 22, 2012 07:04 AM            

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So, if a Cap moon doesn't respond, I should assume that I'm right in thinking that they dislike me?

At this point, I've written off a lot of the ones that I've posted about, as they are hopeless and I have given up completely on them, but I still want to understand because I can't avoid every single Cap moon that I know--nor would I want to, as there are some good ones out there. I just feel so aggravated by certain behaviors of theirs.

It's also frustrating because with some, I have no idea why they find things that normal people wouldn't consider bothersome to be offensive, like small talk. I have no clue why some of the Cap mooners that I've known are upset by me, as I did not intentionally or consciously do anything. I even straight up asked one about it very gently, non-blamingly, and courteously, and was just deliberately ignored and treated very icily by that person. I don't get why they act that way and again, am hoping to understand so that I can avoid having problems with future ones that I will meet.

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posted July 22, 2012 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Not necessarily. It could be you are reaching across the "proper" line each Cap Moon draws - the mandatory distance,or something along this : you can't be cosy & too assertive emotionally- wise when to comes to us. Even when very polite and cordial,Cap Moon is at bay.
Small talk is tiresome,true; Imagine you are on a big party,but very formal. Small talk is moment when you go beyond business talk and enter a private area,only you are not really interested in them,hence the small talk. So,that apparently innocuous situation is bit revealing,at least to Caps,and when we don't find much substance,it is very annoying. It is ultimately a waste of time,and waste of attention they had given to you; They just cut it off,right there,for Caps don't do things halfway.

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It just really aggravates me.

I mean, without small talk, how the hell do you get to feel comfortable with someone and get to know them?

Without communication, you really can't have a good connection or a good relationship at all.

How do you guys actually maintain friendships and keep friends? I'm asking honestly, as I really don't understand how people do that without being able to talk to each other. It's a foreign concept to me. I need communication to feel connected and secure.

For you, you have a Leo sun, so it's probably easier. (If I remember right, you have other Leo/Libra placements, yes? Or am I wrong on that?)

Honestly, I like to be friends with people and get along with them. It's just depressing for me when things can't be fixed. I'm a Libra w/a Cancer moon; it takes awhile for me to feel better about it, and even when I do, it still gets to me at times.

posted July 22, 2012 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
It just really aggravates me.

I mean, without small talk, how the hell do you get to feel comfortable with someone and get to know them?

Without communication, you really can't have a good connection or a good relationship at all.

How do you guys actually maintain friendships and keep friends? I'm asking honestly, as I really don't understand how people do that without being able to talk to each other. It's a foreign concept to me. I need communication to feel connected and secure.

For you, you have a Leo sun, so it's probably easier. (If I remember right, you have other Leo/Libra placements, yes? Or am I wrong on that?)

Honestly, I like to be friends with people and get along with them. It's just depressing for me when things can't be fixed. I'm a Libra w/a Cancer moon; it takes awhile for me to feel better about it, and even when I do, it still gets to me at times.

I've given up on this one, but how do you get people to NOT act like that with you? How do you get a Cap moon to not be that way with you, for future reference? And how do you get Cap moon to understand your needs as a Cancer moon when Cancer moons are not allowed by the Cap moons to talk about things? How else do you reconcile or compromise without talking? Do you guys ever try to meet people halfway?

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Yeah,Leo with Libra Asc,and Sun in H11,on top of this
With Cap energy many aspects and notions go without saying,they are given; Some see this as a keep'em guessing game,but Cap longs for instant,almost raw connection beneath the surface,which time will build into relationship that is fulfilling,lasting,concrete,meaningful,reliable. Small talk is not a key. We build friendships over years. When you have a Cap Moon friend,you must understand that while there is no need for talk,sometimes,the company is very appreciated. The level where a Cap Moon is comfortable to talk to you about their issues is very high,and takes time to get there. Finally,there is that trait where the only thing that matters is what you do,not say. That's why all Cap Moon friends when things get tough are really there for you making stuff better,as possible,quite literary. To us,the only way is the real way.
Does Cap Moon acknowledge Can Moon's needs? Maybe the solution lies in the shell,dearie - while Cappy's shell may be the world,Cancer's shell can't be the same. You need close distance people and places you like,small,cuddly surrounding. You can't love everyone,and you can't reach out to everybody - and this is what Cap Moon understands very well,so when they notice this tendency in you,the wall they pull up is even bigger!
Yes,they can meet you halfway,as a favour to you,token of affection. But,since it is contrived,and forced,they won't appreciate this,deep down. Every Cap has a baggage,and friends shouldn't be one. Friends are rocks,we don't have to support each other,for we are rocks,the same,but it just feels right when you know you are out there,persevering,standing,no matter what.

I never small talk with friends,I find it alarming when one of my friends starts relating like this to me - I guess I find it pro forma,rather than substantial,like a true friendship has to be. And no matter what,Cap loves quality. So,small talk is just out of question.

posted July 22, 2012 05:38 PM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
So, if a Cap moon doesn't respond, I should assume that I'm right in thinking that they dislike me?

At this point, I've written off a lot of the ones that I've posted about, as they are hopeless and I have given up completely on them, but I still want to understand because I can't avoid every single Cap moon that I know--nor would I want to, as there are some good ones out there. I just feel so aggravated by certain behaviors of theirs.

It's also frustrating because with some, I have no idea why they find things that normal people wouldn't consider bothersome to be offensive, like small talk. I have no clue why some of the Cap mooners that I've known are upset by me, as I did not intentionally or consciously do anything. I even straight up asked one about it very gently, non-blamingly, and courteously, and was just deliberately ignored and treated very icily by that person. I don't get why they act that way and again, am hoping to understand so that I can avoid having problems with future ones that I will meet.

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Not necessarily. When in doubt, you could always ask. A Cappy moon will usually be honest to the point of bluntness with you. I've always been the kind of person who doesn't bother with upsetting another person with the truth if they continue to push my limit. I try to come across as honest and polite, while still short, to get the message across. But if it gets out of hand, sometimes you just have to let it be known. Capricorn is an earth sign, so it's going to be laid-back, and serious. I do enjoy talking a great deal, when there's something worth talking about. Small talk bores me. There's really no point to it. If you want to get to know someone, ask them a thought provoking question, not a question about the weather. At least, this is how a lunar Cap would see it, any way. I also have a "don't ask, won't tell" policy. If you want to know something about me, just ask. I very rarely if ever offer details about my life without reason. Sometimes, I'm withdrawn. I tend to be pensive. Most lunar Caps are, I think. So don't take it personally if they're quiet. They might just be thinking or weighing pros and cons in their heads. I have a Leo Ascendant, so I think it warms me up quite a bit, but deep down inside I still have that dark moon aspect haha. Also, I think sarcasm is Virgo and Caps most used form of humor and anger. Don't take it personally if they seem to be joking. If they seem to be agitated, take heed.

I think that it's well to understand Cappys, but at the end of the day, you may just not get along well with that moon sign for one reason or another. I for one have an issue with lunar airs signs, specifically Libra. I've dated two guys with Moon in Libra, and they're indecisiveness and not wanting to take action bothered me. I was also involved with a Lunar Gemini. I think that might have been the worst, but then again, we had pretty bad synastry where Saturn and the Moon was concerned....

posted July 23, 2012 04:16 AM            

I don't see how that is fair. I don't mean to be harsh or cruel, but if I have to accommodate them, it's really unbalanced if they don't have to meet me halfway. If I have to compromise, so should they. It shouldn't just all fall on my shoulders and be my burden. They should have to make an effort, too--both sides, not just one.

And by 'small talk' I don't mean "how's the weather". I just mean little things like "hi, how are you, how have you been, what have you been up to"--things like that.

And I don't understand this whole thing about 'doing', either. People do things just to lie, kiss arse, or suck up, so just because someone does something for you does not mean that it is sincere or well-motivated. Plus, I've tried to be nice to people (genuinely, not the scenario that I just described), and they STILL act cold and distant with me.