posted July 25, 2012 01:51 AM            

What i've noticed though is that i'm prone to being deceived, i think neptune is the one to blame. I get deceived alot, ranging from white lies from my friends that are brag/ego boost-motivated, to the lies that one hides from me eventhough i must know, you know, those type of lies? Your friend or family member did something bad behind your back, but when you ask them they deny it? I'm very prone to that. Now i know that also happens in alot of friendships too, but the most interesting thing would be me being deceived by salespeople. I have encountered many instances that people overprice the item or service when i buy something. And when i check, it was overpriced. I even unwittingly "donated" money to a technician who told me my phone had to be reformatted, but the truth was my phone just had a dirty charging port, i was too trusting to not even examine the receipt, the phone model and IMEI was totally inaccurate! I took a close look at the receipt after a week, so it's partly my fault. Also, all my files and msgs are intact, they should be deleted if they were reformatted. I had my suspicions that i was tricked, but wasn't sure until i saw the receipt. I have lots of similar experiences like that with salespeople.

posted July 25, 2012 03:18 AM            

My only other 11H planet is Mars in Capricorn, which lends me a discerning taste for those I decide to confide in and take on as a true-blue friend. I prefer people who I respect, people who can inspire me to action, and those who know when to be mature. Cap is a reserved sign, so even though Mars is an active planet, it is considerably tempered.

Their rulers, both Jupiter and Saturn, are conjunct in my 8H, an "x-ray" type of house. Both tightly square my Mars.

posted July 25, 2012 04:02 AM            

I have read somewhere, tho I don't remember where, that whatever house the Neptune is in, is the are of your life where situations will ask of you to make a "sacrifice".

If you are curious how he is being used, well anytime there is a social event, he LITERALLY pays for everything and everyone. When he needs a friend to talk to, guess how many of them pick up their phone.. His first love cheated on him with over ten guys, one of them being his best friend. Well needless to say; not only did he take her back repeatedly, but he is still "best friends" with the guy to this day.

Now im sure this is an extreme example, and this is a repeated theme in his chart (double Pisces, Venus in the 12th etc), but it manifests quite literally in his life.

posted July 25, 2012 04:59 AM            

I have a cardinal t-square and other negative aspects to my sun and Mercury.

Social interaction, friendship, and connection really matter a lot to me, as does communication. Communication is how I feel connected. My seventh is empty, except Chiron in Gemini, and romantic relationships are not important to me. Friendship, though, is very, very important.

I honestly don't feel loved very often and don't really feel like I matter to a lot of people. I don't really feel like I'm special to most people or like I've made a big positive difference in their lives/like they're glad to know me and have benefited from it. I don't have the level of closeness and connectedness with others that I would like. I have a hard time keeping friends. People let me down a lot and disappoint me.

This is going to sound dumb, but whenever I watch shows where there is a group of friends that are very close-knit, have fun together, make memories, and are there for each other, and that like each other even after conflicts, I feel so jealous. I've always wanted that. I thought that I found it in college, but those people turned out to only be fair-weather friends.

I have tried hard in the past to be gracious, kind, and pleasing, and the nicer I am, the more people hurt me. I honestly feel burned out.

I really love beauty and elegance. I like to bring it into what I do most of the time, except during my more silly and Sag-ASC moments. If I could have any job, I'd like to be a personal stylist for regular people (not celebrities). I love going shopping with people when I'm not looking to buy anything for myself (I tend to prefer going alone to buy things for myself) and helping them pick out beautiful things. I like to make people feel beautiful. I also like for people to feel special when I'm with them, which is why I prefer one-on-one interactions, though I also like small groups. I don't like big groups or huge crowds.

posted July 25, 2012 06:19 AM            

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I have Uranus there as well & Venus, but the orb isnt close enough for a conjunction. Similar experiences, meet & make friends easily, but usually drift apart after awhile. I love my true friends very much but usually dont have much time for long term friendships. Uranus drives me towards chasing after many interests & ideas, which leaves me w few time for friends. On the other hand, once I do see my friends, its as if we never drifted apart.

With Venus in Scorpio here, its a paradix. On one hand, I want intense relationships of feeling like connected on a soul level, but also want my space. Hmmm I guess the best way to describe it is that I want trust/devotion, without feeling smothered.

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Ah so you have uranus in the 11th too, you must have a diverse group of friends and can pretty much hang out with anyone. Do you have a tendency to just subtly and suddenly avoid someone when you feel that you don't want to be close to that person anymore for a "valid" reason? (they annoy you, you don't like how they think and their personality, they did something wrong to you, etc.) but you do it in a manner that your last interaction with them was pleasant, then you cut contact? You know, the infamous uranus/aquarian "detachment"?

posted July 25, 2012 06:31 AM            

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I have no planets in my 11th house.

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posted July 25, 2012 01:28 PM            

I make friends wherever I go. I prefer to hang out in large groups over a one on one relati0nship. Haven't been able to stick with the same people for m0re than a year because of bored0m. Never called any0ne a best friend because it sounds umm..I d0n't kn0w..too much of c0mmitment. I d0n't get attached.

My friends c0me fr0m different ec0n0mic, cultural and religious background and age groups. M0st of them are men. A lot of them have parents in the armed forces.

The Sun rules my 7th. Guys who ask me out, we either start off or end up as friends. For me, friendship is 0ne of the m0st important elements in any partnership. I d0n't believe in marriage.

Mars squares my m0on in the 8th and 2 guys who m0lested me are my friends. No other bad experience.

posted July 25, 2012 01:32 PM            

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My 11H cusp lies in Sagittarius. I have Neptune just inside my 11H, but I don't feel that I am deceived terribly often. I actually feel that I have a good intuition about others, and am generally friendly and able to get along with practically anyone. Neptune makes me idealize people more than I probably should. I really want to think the best of people, especially with that Sagittarian energy.

My only other 11H planet is Mars in Capricorn, which lends me a discerning taste for those I decide to confide in and take on as a true-blue friend. I prefer people who I respect, people who can inspire me to action, and those who know when to be mature. Cap is a reserved sign, so even though Mars is an active planet, it is considerably tempered.

Their rulers, both Jupiter and Saturn, are conjunct in my 8H, an "x-ray" type of house. Both tightly square my Mars.

Sag Neptune rules my 2H of personal values [optimistic and intuitive], and Cap Mars rules my 3H of communication [reserved and purposeful].

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I have sagittarius too in my 11th house. You must be an aquarius rising too. Well, you are fortunate that people don't take advantage of you or deceive you, its effect on you is leaning towards idealism instead of deception. I'm a pisces sun and moon, yet i never remember thinking about the best in people, i always think that there's a flaw in their personalities somewhere that i have yet to uncover that will irritate me in the future. True enough, with time i get too see it. I do get to sense if the person is lying, if i know the person for quite sometime or if the event is "weird", but the overpricing stuff, i don't, so i now have to research the price in general in advance so as not to get deceived. Like when i intended to get a hot oil treatment i already know the usual price, but the hairdresser tripled the price when i asked! So obviously i didn't avail of the service. Geez i don't even "look rich" to begin with, lol.

posted July 25, 2012 03:19 PM            

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I have a Pisces friend who has Neptune, ruler of his 1st in his 11th house. He is the most loyal, caring, generous friend anyone can have. It makes me angry how his "friends" use him, and blows my mind how he doesn't care.

I have read somewhere, tho I don't remember where, that whatever house the Neptune is in, is the are of your life where situations will ask of you to make a "sacrifice".

If you are curious how he is being used, well anytime there is a social event, he LITERALLY pays for everything and everyone. When he needs a friend to talk to, guess how many of them pick up their phone.. His first love cheated on him with over ten guys, one of them being his best friend. Well needless to say; not only did he take her back repeatedly, but he is still "best friends" with the guy to this day.

Now im sure this is an extreme example, and this is a repeated theme in his chart (double Pisces, Venus in the 12th etc), but it manifests quite literally in his life.

He is one of the smartest ppl I know, he sees exactly whats going on, and he doesn't do anything about it because he wants to be needed. Wow, I feel like crap just writing about it.

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Oh i have a friend who is a capricorn sun and venus and mars in pisces. She is taken advantage of by men as well but she lets it happen, she knows it but she can't seem to stop it. She tends to "buy" attention from men to boost her self-esteem. I think that trait is most likely to happen if you have venus in pisces, the savior/victim theme. Is he venus in pisces too? My friend doesn't know her birth time so i can't see her houses, but maybe she has venus in the 12th too since she also doesn't mind to be taken advantage of. She craves relationships too just like your friend.

10 guys is quite a lot though for him to still consider her as his "best friend". That girl surely likes to collect guys.
Maybe your friend has missing cadent houses? i read this from bobmarksastrologer.com:

Missing Cadent Houses: When the Cadent houses are empty, there may be no sense of your background, of what has gone on before, and that could mean you can find yourself always starting over again from square one. Or you could be unconcerned with background matters and simply take them for granted. Elizabeth Taylor would be the first type. Anyone who gets married eight times simply isn’t learning from experience. Prince Charles would be the second type. Hey, he’s the Prince of Wales. Most of the ceremonial duties and responsibilities fall on his mother, the Queen. He can do what he wants.

posted July 25, 2012 03:55 PM            

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I have Jupiter in the 11th in Aries.

I have a core group of friends, we've all known each other for a very long time (10 year anniversary coming up) since high school. I don't think this is very common as I've heard from most people that they're not friends with very many of their high school friends still.

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Well jupiter increases whatever it touches, so it would be certain that you would have many friends. I wish i had jupiter in my 2nd house though, lol.

posted July 25, 2012 04:21 PM            

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I see. Just wondering, i hope you don't mind me asking, coz if a house is empty in our chart, that is an area in our life where we don't have much focus in our lives, so i'm wondering if you have lots of friends even if you don't have planets in the 11th house? I have an empty 5th, 7th, and 8th house, and romance matters are definitely not a focal point in my life, lol.

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Well, I have always had a lot of friends..I guess I have a lot of acquaintances and a good handful of close, long-time trusted friends. Having friends and interacting with them is VERY important to me, though. My 11th house cusp is Virgo, I suppose I am picky and sometimes critical of my friends (not so much anymore, I've learned to be less judgmental over the years)

posted July 25, 2012 04:46 PM            

I don't really have "friends" in real life, maybe one or two, and I don't see them often. I like it that way.

Most of my friends I met on the internet (hello Aquarius). I need my space, I absolutely cannot stand being smothered in friendship.

But, oddly, friends *are* important to me, very. The few ones I have, are my rocks. I trust them and I know I can count on them.

I can appear very friendly - I am quite social in the sense that, I am not afraid of speaking to people and initiating contact (Gemini rising). But when it comes to the real thing, I shy away. I can be quite superficial in that sense. But I do have close people that I consider friends, I just can't spend a lot of time with them. Sometimes I can be quite detached about my friendships, like I don't really care (must be the Aqua), but I'm serious about my attachments, most of the time.

On a sidenote, I feel like I'm socially retarded. I used to be very shy but now I've learned to chill out a bit and just relax. Probably the compensation phenomenon.

posted July 25, 2012 04:58 PM            

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I have Jupiter in the 11th in Aries.

I have a core group of friends, we've all known each other for a very long time (10 year anniversary coming up) since high school. I don't think this is very common as I've heard from most people that they're not friends with very many of their high school friends still.

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I have Jupiter in Aquarius in the 11th house. Jupiter is my only singleton. I stay in contact with friends through facebook, because I have moved far away.

I couldn't say how this placement has manifested in my life. People say that Jupiter in the 11 has luck with groups of people but I really don't see it. I've always felt different from everyone. I never felt like I fit in but I don't know how things look from the outside.

I am a humanitarian and care about people and politics and justice. Those are very important to me.

When it comes to groups of people, I care about the group over myself.

posted July 25, 2012 05:02 PM            

I can count my close friends on one hand only. I usually meet friends at random places/times lol.... I met my most recent friend while buying a tv. We started chatting and she helped me deliver my tv to my house in her car. We go out for coffee and dinner every now and then.

posted July 25, 2012 05:21 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
I have Jupiter in the 11th in Aries.

I have a core group of friends, we've all known each other for a very long time (10 year anniversary coming up) since high school. I don't think this is very common as I've heard from most people that they're not friends with very many of their high school friends still.

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