posted July 25, 2012 08:43 AM            

He apparently interpretes planets in signs, using the 5 dignities (rulership - exaltation - triplicity - term - face), and compares it to a "board of directors meeting" having to conclude how to go about what the planet is about (how to have fun or grow in Jupiter`s case).

I have never seen that approach before, but I find it fascinating, and it makes so much sense in my own chart.
Even more so it is actually a good exercise in interpretation.
(of course with the dignities only the classical planets are being used)

Let`s see my board of directors for Jupiter on 11 Pisces looks like that.

- Jupiter in Pisces (because Jupiter rules Pisces) - 5 votes
- Venus in Caprciron (Venus exalted in Pisces) - 4 votes
- Mars in Sagittarius (triplicity) - 3 votes
- Jupiter in Pisces (term) - 2 votes
- Jupiter in Pisces (face) - 1 vote

So in terms of how I am going to bring fun into my life, or what I view as fun, we can see even without going into it that Jupiter is REALLY strong, it`s got 8 votes there!
So the others can only be subtle modification, but Jupiter in Pisces is really the one calling the shots, especially as Jupiter reports to,w ell, Jupiter (as it rules Pisces - traditionally).

So Mars has something to say here as well, some minor votes, he will say something about how I actually ACT to bring fun into my life, and to whom does HE report?
Jupiter! lol

Now the only one who is not pointing at Jupiter is actually Venus.
So fun is not only spiritual and dreams and fantasy (Pisces there), but has to be something of value,s omething even having to do with love, partnership or the arts.
But now who does Venus report to?
Saturn!

So there would be nothing frivolous about those things, but there would be a certain sincerity and following rules and a structured approach, in both, the way I approach having fun as well as probably my taste.

This is very true for me actually. This mix of Jupiter (Neptune), Venus and Saturn probably describes my taste quite good.
I really enjoy historical pieces, costume films for example.
And to be honest I do not really like modern theatre, it has to be, well, classical and structured for me being able to relate to it.

Of course this is already inherent in my Venus position who has her say in what I find joy in, what I love, what I value and appreciate.

Anyway just found these videos here and wanted to share them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeyDa38WBTg&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNMqJtFSnz4&feature=relmfu

posted July 25, 2012 09:07 AM            

1) Sun on 26 Sagittarius:
- Jupiter in Pisces. 5 votes
- Jupiter in Pisces - 3 votes
- Mars in Sagittarius - 2 votes
- Saturn in Cancer - 1 votes

2) Moon on 17-18 Aquarius:
- Saturn in Cancer - 5 votes
- Mercury in Sagittarius - 3 votes
- Venus in Capricorn - 2 votes
- Mercury in Sagittarius - 1 vote

3) mercury on 25-26 Sag:
- Jupiter in Pisces - 5 votes
- Jupiter in Pisces - 3 votes
- Mars in Sagittarius - 2 votes
- SAturn in Cancer - 1 vote

4) Venus on 6-7 Cap:
- Saturn in Cancer - 5 Votes
- Mars in Sagittarius - 4 votes
- Moon in Aquarius - 3 votes
- Mercury in Sagittarius - 2 votes
- Jupiter in Pisces - 1 vote

5) mars on 5-6 Sag:
- Jupiter in Pisces - 5 votes
- Jupiter in Pisces - 3 votes
- Jupiter in Pisces - 2 votes
- Mercury in Sagittarius - 1 vote

6) Saturn on 16-17 Cancer:
- Moon in Aquarius - 5 votes
- Jupiter in Pisces - 4 votes
- Mars in Sagittarius - 3 votes
- Mercury in Sagittarius - 2 votes
- mecury in Sagittarius - 1 vote

The table of dignities can be found here

posted July 25, 2012 10:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, my personal board of directors looks like this:

1) Sun on 26 Sagittarius:
- Jupiter in Pisces. 5 votes
- Jupiter in Pisces - 3 votes
- Mars in Sagittarius - 2 votes
- Saturn in Cancer - 1 votes

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posted July 25, 2012 11:25 AM            

it`s not like Sun GIVES votes to a planet in the sense of giving it away.

Actually the Sun gives the context of the question, in the case of the Sun that would probably be the Self.

So my Sun is in Sagittarius, which is ruled by Jupiter, so my Self to a big part is determined by Jupiter.
(actually his approach simply translates the signs into their planetary rulers, which is consistent with classical astrology, which, as far as I know, started out with the planets and give them rulership over a certain part of the sky - what we came to know as signs).

So my Self (my Sun) will be determined by my jupiter and how it expresses.
What does Jupiter care about? What`s his game?
Well, whatever it is it is big, and it involves dreams, ideals, expansion, growth.
So that is what lies at the basis of my Self. And since Jupiter is in Pisces, this of course modifies it even more. Very dreamy dreams right there.
(it also might explain why one Sun in Sag is so different from another Sag-Sun btw, just judging from signplacements alone).

Now in Sag no planet is exaltated. But it is also in the triplicity of Jupiter, so this Jupiter geets 8 votes, and has really MUCH to say about how my Sun expresses.

Mars in Sagittarius gets 2 votes, much less, but might be a minor influence, too. But Mars if in the sign of Jupiter, who is already a member of the board of directors, and again brings us back to Jupiter.

saturn in Cancer is pretty neglible I think, with one meagre vote, though it might take care that I stay in contact with the ground now and then (not sure if it is important, but using old rulership my Moon in Aquarius is in mutual reception with my Saturn in Cancer).

Anyway with 8 votes and a Mars that orients itself to Jupiter as well, my Sun is very much expressed through my Jupiter in Pisces.

Which is just a different approach, but I have grown tired of hearing all the time how optimistic, outgoing, extravert, etc. Sagittarians are. Or how relatiosnhip-oriented, undecided, striving for balance and peace, Librans are.

These things are still valid and true, but I have come to believe that they are not the BASIC meaning, they are already derived from something more basic, a common misnomer if you so want.

My approach has been a different one, looking at how the signs are being put together in terms of element and modality and also in which natural quadrant they fall.

posted July 25, 2012 11:47 AM            

Sun in Aries 13deg
-Mars in Aries 5 votes
-Sun in Aries 4 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 3 votes
-Venus in Taurus 2 votes
-Sun in Aries 1 vote

I guess I am pretty complex hmm.

Moon in Sag 29 deg
-Jupiter in Sag 5 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 3 votes
-Mars in Aries 2 votes
-Saturn in Scorpio 1 vote

Not very surprising that my Moon is so Jupiterian, but with a tint of Mars and Sat..

Mercury in Aries 22 deg
-Mars in Aries 5 votes
-Sun in Aries 4 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 3 votes
-Mars in Aries 2 votes
-Venus in Taurus 1 vote

Well my thinking is def Martian, cutting, fast, to the point, no sugarcoating.

Venus in Taurus 18 deg
-Venus in Taurus 5 votes
-Moon in Sag 4 points
-Moon in Sag 3 points
-Jupiter in Sag 2 points
-Moon in Sag 1 vote

Mars in Aries 28 deg
-Mars in Aries 5 votes
-Sun in Aries 4 votes
-Jup in Sag 3 votes
-Saturn in Sco 2 votes
-Venus in Tau 1 vote

Jup in Sag 10 deg
-Jup in Sag 5 votes
-Jup in Sag 3 votes
-Venus in Tau 2 votes
-Moon in Sag 1 vote

Saturn in Scorpio 2 deg
-Mars in Aries 5 votes
-Mars in Aries 3 votes
-Mars in Aries 2 votes
-Mars in Aries 1 vote

posted July 25, 2012 03:03 PM            

It seems like he is the king of all my planets. Well, except for Moon and Venus.

I am not really sure how to interprete Saturn as a personal planet though.

You should really watch the longer video about Jupiter on 1 Capricorn.
I find it so hilarious and yet educative to imagine this board of directors like several voices in our head, deliberating how to go about the issues of the main planet.
And I think the keyquestion is always: What do they care about? And whom do they report to? Who has influence over them?

And if they are placed in a sign whose ruler is already part of the council, this planet seems to get big influence.

posted July 25, 2012 03:24 PM            

I just noticed that in your mercury`s board there are so many planets in their own sign. I wonder if that contributes to your communication style and thinking being so poignant and to the point. Very strong opinions probably, as each planet is in his own sign, really not all that wishy washy or uncertain (at least in terms of thinking and communicating).

posted July 25, 2012 03:30 PM            

Of course Venus is in Taurus, therefore Venus is its own ruleSo there is a real need for relationships there.

But Moon has even MORE votes (7), so your Venus needs to listen to your moon needs to feel appreciated, validated, even attracted, which means there needs to be a real emotional connection and feeling safe and like you belong to that other person (of course this kind of fits to Taurus as well, but it seems more emotional than the average Taurus).

And Jupiter also has his say there, though more subtly. There must be some idealism attached to it, the chance to grow personally.

Remember paul?
he has Venus in Taurus as well, but on 3 Taurus.

His board of directors would look like this:

Venus in Taurus - 5 votes
Moon in Taurus - 4 votes
Moon in Taurus - 3 votes
Venus in Taurus - 2 votes
Mercury in Aries - 1 vote

Well, I think we can forget about mercury here. lol

In his case Venus and Moon are equally strong, though since both planets are in Taurus and Venus rules Taurus, Venus is much stronger here.
His proorities would be different to yours. Of course the directors here are similiar, but in his case his need for appreciation would be greater than his need for feeling safe or deep emotional connections.
While in your case it would be a bit more important to feel emotionally connected.

Of course these are only subtle nuances, but I find it interesting, how two people with the same Venus-sign can come up with subtly different mixes.

posted July 25, 2012 03:52 PM            

But it is interesting.

My Moon for example.

Saturn in Cancer has 5 votes there
Mercury in Sag has 4otes

Venus in Cap has 2 votes

So in order to feel safe and emotionally connected I have to pay attention to what Saturn and mercury want. Well, mostly Saturn, as even Venus reports back to Saturn.

it is certainly a rather unemotional moon on first glance.
But interestingly Saturn actually reports back to MOON.

I guess you could summarize this Moon with worrying about how to feel (Moon) the right way (Saturn) in order to feel safe.
A regulated environment would be helpful.

Also sometimes an inner censor on feelings, but at the same time the need for sparse, but very sincere, mature emotional connections, yet fearing feelings at the same time (Saturn in Cancer).
Adding to that Mercury analyzing and communicating. And of coruse Mercury reports back to Jupiter.

posted July 25, 2012 04:19 PM            

Oh, but you mentioned cusps! And I thought I'd do this for my cusps as well!

Asc 23 deg Cap
-Saturn in Sco 5 votes
-Mars in Aries 4 votes
-Moon in Sag 3 votes
-Mars in Aries 2 votes
-Sun in Aries 1 vote

Interesting how much Mars controls my Asc directly or indirectly

2H cusp 13 Pisces
-Jupiter in Sag 5 votes
-Venus in Tau 4 votes
-Mars in Aries 3 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 2 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 1 vote

I am actually quite generous with the people I love.

3H cusp 23 Aries like Mercury since they're conj
-Mars in Aries 5 votes
-Sun in Aries 4 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 3 votes
-Mars in Aries 2 votes
-Venus in Taurus 1 vote

At least there is consistency with this one.

IC/4H cusp 21 Taurus slightly different than Venus in Taurus though conj but diff decanates.
-Venus in Taurus 5 votes
-Moon in Sag 4 votes
-Moon in Sag 3 votes
-Jup in Sag 2 votes
-Saturn in Scorpio 1 vote

5H cusp 12 Gemini
-Mercury in Aries 5 votes
-Mercury in Aries 3 votes
-Jup in Sag 2 votes
-Mars in Aries 1 vote

6H cusp 1 Cancer
-Moon in Sag 5 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 4 votes
-Mars in Aries 3 votes
-Mars in Aries 2 votes
-Venus in Tau 1 vote

No wonder I am always dieting lol

DC 23 Cancer
-Moon in Sag 5 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 4 votes
-Mars in Aries 3 votes
-Venus in Tau 2 votes
-Moon in Sag 1 vote

Moon and eventually Jup win. Might be responsible for my latest fancy with foreigners.

8H cusp 13 Virgo
-Mercury in Aries 5 votes
-Mercury in Aries 4 votes
-Moon in Sag 3 votes (how sweet)
-Venus in Tau 2 votes
-Venus in Tau 1 vote

So intellectual, emotional and sensual. What more can one want?

9H cusp 23 Libra
-Venus in Tau 5 votes
-Saturn in Sco 4 votes
-Mercury in Aries 3 votes
-Mercury in Aries 2 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 1 vote

Another mixed one...

MC 21 Scorpio
-Mars in Aries 5 votes
-Mars in Aries 3 votes
-Venus in Tau 2 votes
-Venus in Tau 1 vote

well surgery is def there.. with hint of aesthetics. Yeah.

11H cusp 12 Sag
-Jupiter in Sag 5 votes
-Jupiter in Sag 3 votes
-Venus in Tau 2 votes
-Moon in Sag 1 vote

12H cusp 1 Cap
-Saturn in Sco 5 votes
-Mars in Aries 4 votes
-Moon in Sag 3 votes
-Venus in Tau 2 votes
-Jup in Sag 1 vote

If I think in terms of spirituality and karma, I'd say I've had my share.

posted July 25, 2012 04:32 PM            

my own 5th house cusp is on 1 Taurus.
So
Venus in Cap - 5 votes
Moon in Aqua - 4 votes
Moon in Aqua - 3 votes
Venus in Cap - 2 votes
Mercury in Sag - 1 vote

so both, Venus and Moon get 7 votes, I guess this is where my attraction to creative artistic people comes in, who coincidentally vibe with Saturn and uranus a lot. lol

my DESC on 7 Gemini
Mercury. 5 votes
Mercury in Sag- 4 votes
Jupiter in Pisces 3 votes
Jupiter in Pisces 1 vote

so mercury-Jupiter really mark my approach to relationships, though mercury wins hands down - 9 votes!
lol
Then again Mercury reports back to Jupiter.

cusp of 8th house on 12 Cancer
Moon in Cancer - 5 votes
Jupiter in pisces - 4 votes
Mars in sag - 3 votes
Jupiter in Pisces - 2 votes
Mercury in Sag - 1 vote

Jupiter-Moon right there, with a hint of Mars, but interesting, how both sexual hosues (5th and 8th) contain the softer planets and the needs for emotional connection especially, while when it is about the relationship per se it is all about mercury, understanding, analyzing, communication etc.

posted July 25, 2012 04:43 PM            

Venus in Cap - 5 votes
Saturn in Cancer - 4 votes
Mercury in Sag - 3 votes
Saturn in Cancer - 2 votes
Moon in Aquarius - 1 vote

Saturn-Venus-mercury

Well, interestingly people, especially authority figures, seem to think that I am an exceptionally organized, structured worker with a lot of common sense and the ability to bring people together for a joint work (because I am so diplomatic and not taking things personally).

Well, I always feel they couldnīt be further from the truth, especially about the organized-thing. lol

My IC: 5 Aries

Mars in Sag - 5 votes
Sun in Sag - 4 votes
Jpuiter in Pisces- 3 votes
Jupiter in Pisces - 2 votes
Mars in Sag - 1 vote

Mars seems a bit stronger here, but since it reports to Jupiter, I think the last word probably might go to Jupiter or to them both.
Well, I have some issues with Mars-energy, especially when it comes to expressing it consciously. lol
But this sounds quite a bit like me, yes.
If I look deep down, then of course there are the big dreams of Jupiter there, but Mars definitely is there as well, sometimes taking the form of suppressed anger (though I am letting it out more than I used to do; it is not a good thing to bottle Mars up for too long, especially when it conjuncts Neptune and the ASC).
I can get really mad when I feel like some ethics are being violated, or human rights.
Actually that is something I can fight for. I was never really assertive as a kid, but if I could fight FOR someone or protect someone or fight for a good CAUSE, there were no limits to my energy, which seemed nonexistent when it came to myself.

posted July 25, 2012 06:40 PM            

I also have sun in Sagittarius and Jupiter in Pisces . . . but I don't understand why you included Venus, Saturn, etc. in your "board."

Maybe I'm missing something.

edit: nvm; think I got it somewhat.

so, my sun looks like this

Sun in 16 Sagittarius
Jupiter in Pisces: 5 votes
Venus in Scorpio (bc Venus is exalted in Pisces?): 4 votes
Mars in Pisces (triplicity of Scorpio?): 3 votes

posted July 26, 2012 12:47 AM            

Yes, Mercury def in charge of my 5H! I actually have a thing for nerds lol ^_^. Computer nerds are particularly attractive to me for some reason. No BS.

quote:

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While my attractions are purely based on an emotional pull or even on dreams (lol), I would never get into a relationship without checking the mental aspect of it.

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BTW your MC is EXACTLY conjunct my 12th house cusp.
Were you my mother in a past life?

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quote:

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Actually that is something I can fight for. I was never really assertive as a kid, but if I could fight FOR someone or protect someone or fight for a good CAUSE, there were no limits to my energy, which seemed nonexistent when it came to myself.

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posted July 26, 2012 05:49 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by inthemisosoup:
sounds interesting but I'm confused.

I also have sun in Sagittarius and Jupiter in Pisces . . . but I don't understand why you included Venus, Saturn, etc. in your "board."

Maybe I'm missing something.

edit: nvm; think I got it somewhat.

so, my sun looks like this

Sun in 16 Sagittarius
Jupiter in Pisces: 5 votes
Venus in Scorpio (bc Venus is exalted in Pisces?): 4 votes
Mars in Pisces (triplicity of Scorpio?): 3 votes

But I've not heard of "terms" and "face" can you explain?

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rulership - exaltation - triplicity - term - face are the essential dignities as per Ptolemaios. I posted a link to the table.

So if you have a planet in 16 Sagittarius (does not really matter what planet).

You look at the first column, where it sais: Sagittarius. Then you just follow the horizontal line.

For 16 Sagittarius it is like this:

rulership: Jupiter: 5 votes
exaltation: no planet is exalted (I don`t consider the nodes)

triplicity:
it depends if you have a night or day chart.
If your Sun is from 1st to 6th house: nigth chart
if it is above the horizon: daychart

so for daychart: Sun
for nightchart: Jupiter

3 votes

term:
Mercury (Mercurys term reaches from 6°01-19°00 Sag)

2 votes

face:
Moon (valid from 10°01-20°00 Sagittarius)
1 vote

every planet that has at least 3 votes, is said to have a say in how the planet you have been looking at (in your case the Sun) expresses.

Planets with 2 and 1 votes are subtle influences (and most of the time taking notes and in Mercury`s case not paying all that much attention I guess just kidding).

I like the way Kevin Burk uses this board of directors idea in the form of improvising a meeting, an improvised scene, witht he planets really VOICING their opinions on the matter of hand.

For example. if the question is: what do you need to feel safe? (Moon).

And let`s say Mars gets 5 votes and Saturn gets 6 (no clue if that is possible at all).

Then Mars would say (for simplicity reasons let`s say Mars is in Aries):
Oh to feel comfortable and safe I really need to get out there and DO something. I want to go bungee jumping - that is my idea of feeling safe. Then I feel really alive.
And I really want to discover something new, be a pioneer. I just need to DO somethng, something must HAPPEN and please right NOW and HERE, then I am happy and feeling safe. Living is not for cowards and losers, you have risk something, do something new and fresh.

But then Saturn also has a big word in it. And he might turn to Mars and say.
"I`d appreciate it if we could talk about that calmly and reasonably and without getting personal, and please stop bumping your fist into the table to every word. You`ll only ruin the wooden surface. And I understand you well without you getting loud.

About the matter of hand: To feel safe I need structure, a reliable environment. I need to know the rules and if I do, keeping to the rules, gives me a sense of safety, even if it is only me making the rules.
But I need to have principles and stick to them.
Rushing somewhere blindly and foolheartedly doesnīt make me feel safe at all.
Before going out there and letting Mars discover the new worlds, I need to think about a plan.

But just in case we can come up with something - and I am not yet convinced about that-, I`d agree to systematize the things Mars will be stumbling upon by coincidence and will create a structure.

That is the way how I can feel safe. I must know I am doing the right thing. And that others keep to the code as well.

(at that point Mars will probably be rolling his eyes and tapping his fingers impatiently on the desk and at snorting something that sounds like: Boring. Boring. Why are we still here? I should be out there DOING something).

Anyway since Saturn gets 6 votes, he would have the last word. BUT he has to make sure that mars will be satisfied as well. or the person will not feel safe. If Saturn suppresses Mars, the person might start building an anger directed towards themselves at first or at some point simply explode with it.

They have to find a way to agree, which means that even though Saturn usually wouldnīt really go out there and conquer the world on his own, he might agree to that strong urge in Mars, IF the conquering and discovering could be arranged according to conditions Saturn is comfortable with, with a bit of organizing and planning in advance for example.

posted July 26, 2012 06:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Hera:
But I think our synastry looks pretty karmic, your Sun conj my Sn and my Jup-Uranus conj your NN. I think we met in several lives, tbh. Your MC conjuncts my DNA haha and my Kaali. Part of Spirit is a bit further away, 9 deg Libra. And my Atlantis is sq, at 4 Cancer. Karma is trine (3 Gemini)

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hera,

yes, I think, so, too, that we have met in several lives before.
Actually your Part of spirit is conjunct my Pluto on 9 Libra.
orbs? who needs orbs?

posted July 26, 2012 06:29 AM            

mine is on 21 Scorpio,
so

- Mars: 5 votes
- Mars: 3 votes
- Mercury: 2 votes
- Venus: 1 votes

so Mars definitely is in charge of my 12th house cusp as well.

posted July 26, 2012 06:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
hera,

yes, I think, so, too, that we have met in several lives before.
Actually your Part of spirit is conjunct my Pluto on 9 Libra.
orbs? who needs orbs?

Actually Pluto rules my 12th house.

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Lol what do you mean who needs orbs lol

Actually it looks more like we were lovers or smth Check out our Draconic synastry

posted July 26, 2012 09:20 AM            

our draconics look quite intense.
Noticed that Mars/Pluto-Pluto opposition?

It overlays the 3rd-9th/ 10th-4th, which would relate to being relatives rather than lvoers.

Though there is Venus on DESC - looks at least nice.