posted July 29, 2012 09:46 PM            

How did that play out?

I have this with fishy it's a tight 1 orb square..

I am saturn he is NN..

posted July 29, 2012 11:52 PM            

I don't think it's that bad. My best friend's Saturn is square my nodes, but out of orb, and another good friend's Saturn squares my axis almost exact.

I knew both girls for a while before I actually became friends with them.

So maybe that was Saturn's role in things?

Edit! OMG I forget that my Saturn also squares my husband's nodes. Just by sign, though, it's way out of orb.

There are so many Saturn contacts in our synastry, I can't even tell what's what. Maybe I'll recognize something after other people leave comments.

posted July 29, 2012 11:57 PM            

It wouldnt be generational between me and him.
We have different Saturns and different NN

Any romantic relationships with this?

posted July 30, 2012 12:04 AM            

If we keep in mind that Saturn square NN would also square SN ...

posted July 30, 2012 12:15 AM            

So in this life the difficulty may continue (square NN), but your awareness can help you to rise above the karmic obligation and therefore resolve it, rather than continue with the same pattern.

How tight are the orbs?

posted July 30, 2012 12:19 AM            

But I do believe that having the same nodal axis was one of the key things that brought us together; I could relate to him, almost like he was from my generation.

We also have his Saturn exactly conjunct my Venus...and some other karmic stuff.

Hoping you get a lot of responses because this is interesting but I just don't know where to begin, trying to pinpoint how this is playing out for us.

For what it's worth I FEEL like I have to stay with him, make sure he "gets to" his NN. I have always felt strangely committed to trying to help him advance, even when I just met him. Maybe that's my Saturn spanning the time across his nodes?

But I'm totally guessing here.

posted July 30, 2012 12:25 AM            

Also consider the signs and houses of the placements because this aspect will affect those.

posted July 30, 2012 12:25 AM            

Yeah I have feeling, like I have to let this play out.. Rather good or bad.. I feel stuck in a way.. But at the same time I get mixed feelings like I cant be w/o him..

posted July 30, 2012 12:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Yeah, so it's pretty tight, meaning the effect will be more pronounced.

Also consider the signs and houses of the placements because this aspect will affect those.

What does it look like in the composite? (Saturn and the nodal axis)

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There is a loose trine in the Composite
Saturn in can trine NN in Scoprio.
Its wide though 7 orbs.

But Saturn is at a critical degree 29Can

posted July 30, 2012 01:42 AM            

Sorry I was gone for a bit

So composite is a bit better, loose orb and all.

But Saturn whether in hard or soft aspects, has the same basic characteristics--i.e., wants structure, solidness, only that which is real, wants to build slowly, wants/needs to teach lessons slowly, will reject anything without a solid foundation, etc.

In order to achieve all this, Saturn imposes rules and regulations, which can be seen as restrictions by non-Saturn types. If he doesn't get his way, Saturn can be critical, stubborn, and a total wet blanket.

But I'm of the opinion that if you understand and work with the energies of Saturn, that "pickle" can be made spicy too lol, because once Saturn is satisfied, he is actually known to bless in ways no other planet can w.r.t. the physical, practical world we live in.

Now in your case, I remember from the other thread you have Saturn on your IC in Gemini, and you have asteroid Karma in your 7H. (remember Karma fine tunes Saturn). So I think you already understand from the other thread that you have relationship karma involving the expression or communication of love (Gemini Saturn, on the IC meaning growing up if love wasn't communicated effectively to you, then you in turn will have difficulties with this expression in your adult relationships).

With Fishy's NN in Virgo, he'll need to learn selfless service toward others in order to fulfill his destiny (the house of his NN will also matter).

But with your Saturn squaring his NN, even though you will feel obliged to see that he fulfills his destiny, you may become easily critical of him if you think he's not doing it, not doing it correctly, or not putting in enough effort, etc.

The biggest thing to watch out for with Saturn is Saturn's ego and a tendency to criticize and judge, i.e the need to see that Fishy moves toward his goals, and expressing any assistance in a loving manner.

And since this is your own karmic lesson to learn in this life, you'll have to realize that when you've yourself mastered your own karmic lesson of learning to express and communicate love effectively, then at the same time you will be able to assist him too in a loving constructive manner.

Main thing---keep criticism to an absolute minimum. Find newer and more constructive ways to communicate to him in a language that he understands and is comfortable accepting.

Finally, check to see what asteroid Karma is doing in your synastry and composite (sign and house). If it's making some soft aspects, your task will become that much easier, altho I feel that even with soft aspects, Saturn will always remain the task master he is, rewarding only when the lessons are learned fully.

But without Saturn, there would be no longevity in relationships, no marriages, no permanency, etc. I don't think that's a good alternative.

posted July 30, 2012 01:47 AM            

We met by pure chance, I was not supposed to be there at all!! There was this overwhelming recognition, I just knew him deep down inside, I don't know anyone else I have sooo much in common with. Its actually really frightening to hear him speak MY thoughts, views, beliefs.

We have a psyche-Eros DW 0*. Our ASC are conjunct 0*. On the day we met, the sun was at 29*, conjunct my progressed Venus 0* orb, the transiting Venus was conjunct my natal Venus 1* and my vertex 2* opposite his Saturn 4*. That day, the sun, moon and mars were at 29*, and the transiting Psyche and Eros were both at 20*, activating our conjunction. In the composite, saturn squares the NN 2*.

Never, ever, ever in my life have I felt so safe and familiar with anyone right away. I have major trust issues, but I truly trusted him. I met him at a time that I needed him most, I cannot even describe it, but I know it was meant to be. Sometimes I look at him and try to figure out who he reminds me of, its somewhat unsettling.

We have known each other for a year, although it feels like a lifetime. We have a deep connection, but no matter how much we feel attracted to one another, we have never acted on it (because of me). For some strange reason, it feels wrong to me, like I will hurt him, and I care deeply about him. I trust my gut (or learning to), and I almost feel like we met to inspire, encourage and support one anther one last time. He feels differently, and expressed his desire to have a relationship with me, and he says he's usually right on about stuff like that, but I have been distancing myself from him, because I know it won't be that way.

posted July 30, 2012 06:41 AM            

And uh, nothing worked out, but I can't get over him, even now when I am with someone else.
We were never in a relationship, but my feelings were/are so strong that it's hard to express their intensity with simple words.

His Saturn/Mars opposition squares my ASC/DSC + NN/SN axis (2° orb).

I think about him very often, but we haven't seen each other for a year now.

There's definitely karma there, his Karma asteroid conjuncts my Sun and my Karma (although widely, 5°) conjuncts his NN.

We have tons and tons of tight and not so tight Saturn aspects which I think prevented/prevent us from getting close to each other.

I know it was mutual but I don't know if he still has some feelings for me or not.

posted July 30, 2012 03:44 PM            

The crap just hit the.fan... I'm at work and getting accused of f.ing.some vendor..
I don't have the patience for this jealousy bs..
I hate accusations w/o some sort of merit behind it...

He just doesn't know the type of person I really am..

I even tried to re assure him. I told him how special he is to me.. He said whatever!!!!!!!!

posted July 31, 2012 01:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
Hi Lioness,

If we keep in mind that Saturn square NN would also square SN ...

... then yes, karmic would be pretty much definite.
So Saturn = Karma
Square = Difficulty
SN = Past Life ( if you believe in it)

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posted July 31, 2012 02:39 PM            

In terms of application saturn nnode seems to create feelings of obligation and duty for the nnode person but unless they've struggled and have been put on the nnode path they wouldn't be able to handle the obligation/duty.

We already see nnode moon as a very strong synastry aspect but we recognize that the moon person is reluctant becuase of the difficulties of heading to the north node.

posted July 31, 2012 04:42 PM            

Geez.. I checked composite karma.. It's in leo in h3
Trines venus and neptune
Sextile moon, pluto, jupiter

There is a wide sq to nn, 8 orbs.

But guess what I noticed..
Composite karma is conjunct my natal sun, moon, merc..
Composite destinn is conjunct his natal sun and sq.his moon...