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Topic: *Mars Pluto aspects*
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redshoes
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posted August 01, 2012 06:44 AM
  
I discovered John Holmes, the american killer has this aspect in his chart (conjunction). The link below discusses the characteristics of the aspect. I also discovered my sister had this aspect (the square) in her chart and had a volatile and eruptive temper, she also viewed most of life negatively and had a need to over control situations ~ she was a very "difficult" woman to deal with  Does anyone have this, or can shed any light on the effects of the mars-pluto energy Thanks guys!
http://astrofix.net/2010/06/09/killer-instincts-mars-pluto/ IP: Logged |
curious girl
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posted August 01, 2012 07:47 AM
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Originally posted by redshoes:
I discovered John Holmes, the american killer has this aspect in his chart (conjunction). The link below discusses the characteristics of the aspect. I also discovered my sister had this aspect (the square) in her chart and had a volatile and eruptive temper, she also viewed most of life negatively and had a need to over control situations ~ she was a very "difficult" woman to deal with Does anyone have this, or can shed any light on the effects of the mars-pluto energy Thanks guys!
http://astrofix.net/2010/06/09/killer-instincts-mars-pluto/
I do! Mine is in Libra 8th house. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/214743.html Far before I knew my natal chart and aspects in it I felt that there is an enormous amount of energy in me which needs to find its outlet otherwise I can easily become frustrated. The thing is that most of the time I choose to be passive rather than fight with someone if I feel its not going anywhere. An astrologer once told me it is a learned way to deal with this energetic aspect. I remember when I was excercising regularly those were the happiest days of my life, I got rid of a lot of frustration. I guess it has to do with Libra, while James Holmes has it in Scorpio and his conjunction is thus quite strong. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted August 01, 2012 08:23 AM
I have Mars to Pluto, but mine's a Trine. I also have the Trine in Synastry in my marriage. Mine relates more to career and work. I think. IP: Logged |
Fuzzy
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posted August 01, 2012 08:50 AM
I know a lot of people with hard Mars Pluto aspects, me included, and one thing I noticed for sure is that either you abuse, or you will get abused. Mars Pluto just attracts this kind of energy. Sexually, I mean, and not always physical rape. I don't know about harmonious aspects though. IP: Logged |
Lazyscarecrow
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posted August 01, 2012 09:47 AM
When I think of Mars Pluto, I think of desctructive temper, deep running sex drive, etc...sometimes, it can REALLY get out of hand with the harder aspects. It requires a lot of discipline to handle, but it can be harnessed for good. A lot of violent criminals have the Mars Pluto or Mars Uranus aspects.Also, I believe it was you who did a tarot reading for me. I just want to say things turned out as indicated by the cards you pulled. I made a thank you thread for you but dunno if you ever saw it in Personal Readings. If this wasn't you, please disregard. ^^ IP: Logged |
sweet-scorpion
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posted August 01, 2012 12:48 PM
I have Mars in Cancer in the 8th trine Pluto in Scorpio in the 12th.I feel like Pluto revitalizes my Mars that sometimes does not know how to act constructively and not so erratically [it's opposite Uranus and Neptune]. In areas like personal relationships and finance I feel the Pluto trine will help me have great staying power and not allow others to dominate me. And I've seen this come up in my life many times. People who have been toxic have tried to destroy my willpower but, they have never succeeded. I also feel like, my Pluto trine to 8H Mars will provide me the opposite of attracting sexual assault, and more like, I will have the power to overcome a lot of the weirdos who have tried to hit on me and date me. I rarely let men dominate me, and it shows in the undertones of my personality. I feel the aspect also gives me a deeper sense of sensuality that isn't immediately obvious but it's there. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted August 01, 2012 02:09 PM
Someone posted this link on our FB page.  I have the exact opposition. I wanted to post the article here but decided not to. It is not for the faint hearted.
http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.be/2011/09/astrology-of-child-abuse-and-murder.html
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peachbeigeblue
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posted August 01, 2012 02:16 PM
Do minor harmonious angles count? I have the semi-sextile IP: Logged |
violet7887
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posted August 01, 2012 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I have Mars in Cancer in the 8th trine Pluto in Scorpio in the 12th.I feel like Pluto revitalizes my Mars that sometimes does not know how to act constructively and not so erratically [it's opposite Mars and Neptune]. In areas like personal relationships and finance I feel the Pluto trine will help me have great staying power and not allow others to dominate me. And I've seen this come up in my life many times. People who have been toxic have tried to destroy my willpower but, they have never succeeded. I also feel like, my Pluto trine to 8H Mars will provide me the opposite of attracting sexual assault, and more like, I will have the power to overcome a lot of the weirdos who have tried to hit on me and date me. I rarely let men dominate me, and it shows in the undertones of my personality. I feel the aspect also gives me a deeper sense of sensuality that isn't immediately obvious but it's there.
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Doux Rêve
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posted August 01, 2012 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by Fuzzy:
I know a lot of people with hard Mars Pluto aspects, me included, and one thing I noticed for sure is that either you abuse, or you will get abused. Mars Pluto just attracts this kind of energy. Sexually, I mean, and not always physical rape.
Can you elaborate on this, please?
Abuse how?
I have the conjunction and it's afflicted by the Moon and Saturn, I guess I need to be extra careful with such tense energies.
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Doux Rêve
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posted August 01, 2012 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
Do minor harmonious angles count? I have the semi-sextile
The semi-sextile is like one of the weakest aspects, imo. I don't feel it, personally, but maybe when the planets are triggered by transit it has some power. I'm not sure. IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted August 01, 2012 04:13 PM
I have the exact trine and have used this so far really negatively, I think. Pluto gives you the will to manipulate and mars the drive and ability to carry through with it. In the trine or in easy aspects its a natural easy-flowing energy which appears more subtle and approachable. It is not as in your face as a conjunction, obviously. Mars-pluto makes for a strong will, however, who never gives up. IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted August 01, 2012 07:43 PM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
The semi-sextile is like one of the weakest aspects, imo. I don't feel it, personally, but maybe when the planets are triggered by transit it has some power. I'm not sure.
Yeah I don't really feel it. I have a Pluto transiting natal mars right now since november - that I feel. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted August 01, 2012 08:30 PM
I have Mars either inconjunct Pluto or quincunx. I feel like an Aries 10-fold. It's like taking steroids and for me there is a LOTTTT of anger. I have an endless supply of anger it seems but I'm not in touch with the majority of my other feelings. Mars/Pluto is a very powerful, scary combination indeed.IP: Logged |
awakemer
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posted August 01, 2012 09:07 PM
mars square pluto here.. Yeah i agree with the explosive temper but I have to be provoked pretty badly for me to erupt and when i do its very scary.. for the other pereson to view because i'm pretty sure I look like a demon. I haven't erupted in a VERY long time. I think getting older and more mature, and also mediating and being in touch with my higher self has toned it down for me. I feel a lot more in control now than when I used to be. I might feel or think things while i'm angry that I do not want to even say or admit on here.. but it can be very dark. I am extremely empathetic so I don't have any killing urges.. unless its for self preservation.. and probably then i think actually killing another human being would be very difficult. I have mars in 7th so i think i'm more likely to attract power hungry and manipulative people rather than it being part of my consciousness but like i said i can have a very very bad temper. I could care less about gaining power or control over someone though! OH and one thing i will NOT tolerate (also sun and moon in leo) is someone telling me what to do or trying to control or overpower me.. that will make me angry. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 01, 2012 10:18 PM
There are many killers who do not have Mars/Pluto in their charts and many people who have Mars/Pluto in their charts - who are *not* killers.But Mars/Pluto harsh aspects - in particular the square and the opposition can make the person prone to violence (mainly when it is triggered in synastry or by transit). In my personal experience.. I like people with the conjunction. I know two guys with this exact conjunction in Scorpio and one who has it in Libra.
I have not had issues with them and do not see them as aggressive in a damaging way.
That's not to say they are not aggressive -at all-.. But their behaviour is not really harmful to anyone.. It's very controlled. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted August 01, 2012 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by inthemisosoup:
I have the exact trine and have used this so far really negatively, I think. Pluto gives you the will to manipulate and mars the drive and ability to carry through with it. In the trine or in easy aspects its a natural easy-flowing energy which appears more subtle and approachable. It is not as in your face as a conjunction, obviously. Mars-pluto makes for a strong will, however, who never gives up.
Well, you always seem nice to me. Maybe because you are a Pisces moon and always striving for more spirituality? I have the trine. I think I can identify the feeling, and I actually like it. It's like high energy. IP: Logged |
inthemisosoup
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posted August 02, 2012 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Faith:
Well, you always seem nice to me. Maybe because you are a Pisces moon and always striving for more spirituality? I have the trine. I think I can identify the feeling, and I actually like it. It's like high energy.
thanks, faith.  it's not something i do constantly or to intentionally hurt others, it's used seldomly. i still don't like that about myself and i figured i'd explain what i view as the aspect's darker side, which i've unfortunately experienced. IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted August 02, 2012 08:47 AM
Anders Breivik have mars trine pluto. I sometimes think the subtle trine or sextile aspect are more dangerous. All the hell things works out better and easier on positive aspect. The dangerous affect will be bigger.IP: Logged |
Fuzzy
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posted August 02, 2012 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Can you elaborate on this, please?
Abuse how?
I have the conjunction and it's afflicted by the Moon and Saturn, I guess I need to be extra careful with such tense energies.
What I've seen is people experiencing different types of sexual abuse... Even if not necessarily raped, it's sexual humiliation, being used for sex, etc (emotional/mental abuse).
Some Mars-Pluto people I know have it done to them, others do it to others. Maybe there are some that aren't affected, but this is just what I've noticed.
Someone tried to rape me once and caused a lot of emotional damage and in our composite we had an exact Mars square Pluto. Another one of my friends experienced sexual abuse in a relationship and there was a really close Mars opposition Pluto. I just keep seeing this aspect and it seems like it's responsible. IP: Logged |
anno_lucis
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posted August 02, 2012 08:39 PM
i've got this in opposition but mainly it's just drive and passion tho i can identify with abusive relationships (not necessarily physical, could be emotional, mental or verbal abuse and when all else fails the default self abuse/destruct tendencies of drink and drugs are easily sparked...all that power needs a constructive outlet, otherwise this can happen.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 03, 2012 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by popcorn:
Anders Breivik have mars trine pluto. I sometimes think the subtle trine or sextile aspect are more dangerous. All the hell things works out better and easier on positive aspect. The dangerous affect will be bigger.
Thank you. The trines make for easy flow of energy. Ted Bundy is another.IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 03, 2012 03:06 AM
Also with the conjunction, Luka Magnotta.IP: Logged |
Lava Flower
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posted August 03, 2012 04:58 AM
I have a tight square, and I don't have an outward bad temper. I feel intensely but I don't "explode". I usually say my peace, and walk away while the other person is steaming (mars square Jupiter anyone) then I retreat and do a lot of introspection when while im angry. BUT woe to anyone who tries to come after me, into my private space and try to extend our argument. My moms Libra moon used to do this passive aggressive sarcastic taunting that just made my blood boil every time. So while I have my buttons, I am hardly violent. Ugh, to my shame, im kinda a pushover, although no one would guess looking at my chart.My sister and close friend have trines and they are very forward and emotional but never unreasonable. IP: Logged |
Lava Flower
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posted August 03, 2012 05:04 AM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Someone posted this link on our FB page. I have the exact opposition. I wanted to post the article here but decided not to. It is not for the faint hearted.
[URL=http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.be/2011/09/astrology-of-child-abuse-and-murder.html]http://theastrologyplace.blogspot.be/2011/09/astrology-of-child-abuse-and-murder.html[/UR L]
I actually made a thread about this specific article, I think it was called mars-pluto and child abuse. Needless to say, I was abused as a child and my ex was very abusive as well, my mars is in the 7th and Pluto is in the 4th. That article broke my heart, I was the lucky one. IP: Logged |
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