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Topic: Are sexual attraction aspects felt both ways?
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12thhouser
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posted August 04, 2012 05:22 AM
  
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Originally posted by Odette:
I agree with Lonake ^ Not always.
I'm dealing with yet another Cap Mars man with his Mars on my Moon who will not leave me alone.. and I do NOT like him. At all.
Also curious, what houses were involved between you and this man? I know of a young woman who has a Cap Moon in her 7th conjunct my Cap Mars in my 11th, and although I think of us as just friends (my 11th), she's given me an occasional eye of interest (even though she's engaged to a friend of mine). I'm not saying "she wants me," but she's given me that look of interest on more than one occasion, and has told me repeatedly that she likes me. Only mentioning since you said you cannot stand the advances of the Mars guy toward you with your Cap Moon, and I've received repeated interest with my Cap Mars from a Cap Moon girl. IP: Logged |
scorpy_oh
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posted August 04, 2012 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by Dinobleue9:
I'm curious. I'm working for a man whose Venus conjuncts my Mars exact, his Mars is in my 8th House squaring my Pluto. And his Pluto squares my Moon and Venus. I feel overwhelming sexual attraction to him. Is he feeling this too??
i've never had a woman's mars on my venus so i can't say. it is usually my mars aspecting their venus which i like very much. as for pluto aspects, it really depends on the individual's chart because it's a generational planet that affects many people. pluto would have to be emphasized in his chart in order for aspects to evoke deep passion from him or for him to be aware of it. that is how i understand it. i used to have my scorpio stellium, including mars, fall in someone's 8th house. it was very magnetic. with his mars in your 8th house, chances are that he might feel it, too. posting a synastry chart would help a lot. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 04, 2012 06:35 AM
My Moon is in the 7th! I have known many Capricorn Mars men, always with their Mars on my Moon - It seems I only attract this particular degree in Capricorn.
My own Mars is in Capricorn - but very early in the sign & not conj. my Moon. Often I like these guys overall.. but I am not interested romantically/sexually. I feel very receptive to their energy... very much like I care about them and would not want to hurt them. I'm very aware of the things that could hurt their ego... and I try to avoid that.. I also end up counselling them when someone else has hurt them. But the guy I mentioned is an exception.. He has really threaded on my toes and it is now just plain *dislike* from my side. The difference is that he also has Saturn conj his Cap Mars. You saw our synastry in my earlier thread! IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted August 04, 2012 11:54 AM
Hey but venus/saturn would mean feel obligated to be with the person yet it's a love aspect? Why feel obligated. Is it a can't live without you aspect?IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted August 04, 2012 11:56 AM
Hey but venus/saturn would mean feel obligated to be with the person yet it's a love aspect? Why feel obligated. Is it a can't live without you aspect?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted August 04, 2012 12:17 PM
Totally agree with Lonake and Lotiswhite here. Also I´d add (because I have read a lot of Kevin Burke recently I guess) to check for the natal and synastric condition of Moon and Venus (as addition to the 5th and 7th house ruler especially). Though someone who is going to poke in possible Venus-wounds permanently might not be so pleasant around.
Depends a lot how each person natally deals with their Venus-theme for example. Well, personally I love it if synastry reflects my Venus-Pluto-theme, but others might not like something like that and react more with repulsion than attraction.
I guess it also depends how the other person`s personal planets fit mine. I guess having one`s personal challenging aspects reflected by someone else is easier to deal with, if there is common ground. What I mean with this is.
i am usually quite attracted to guys who have their Pluto square my Venus,w hich of course is also generational. But I will not feel attracted to any guy in my generation obviously, only to those who have their Pluto square my Venus AND where there is compatibility in the personal planets especially Moon and Venus (I never feel attracted to people whose Venus is in fire or air, Sagittarius being the exception; as a matter of fact usually the Venus is in Capricorn, Scorpio, Pisces, and there used to be one Venus in Taurus and for very fleeting attractions and interestingly often in friendships Venus in Libra pops up, usually conjunct Pluto natally though -b ut for serious attractions to a guy, it is always their Venus in an Earth or Water sign, but never Cancer. lol). IP: Logged |
RunAroundScreaming
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posted August 04, 2012 12:20 PM
Yes, I think so. There have been a couple of guys who liked me and i didnt feel the same way even though i thought they were okay friends. I had the composite love stellium square saturn, neptune, and uranus with all of them though. Had composite sun conjunct venus square saturn with one. We got along ok as friends and yes i admit there was "something" there, but it was extremely faint, and it came and went, and mostly i wanted to get away from them bc they made me feel so restriced (thats what happens when outer planets afflict a love stellium). But there was this one guy i remember, who i had absolutely nothing going on in either synastry or composite with and he said that he saw me as someone he could marry. We argued on the first conversation we had, and from then on we would argue all of the time. He still insisted that we were perfect for each other. He even said in the beginning "We're not getting along." I mean we had zero chemistry. He was my guy friend's best friend, and his girlfriend who hung out with all of us in a group a lot of times said that she noticed it seemed like a conquest to him and that was it, because it didnt seem like we would be a good fit or make a good couple. I ended up going out with the guy friend's brother when i met him, and she said we seemed perfect together. I think that a lot of guys just have, like, relationship problems, that women dont have. since they focus on sex so much rather than love. So when a guy likes you a lot but you have no chemistry and no connection, then they just want that one thing. also, most guys dont want to settle down or get married, they just want a girlfriend so they could say they have a girl. I dont think that most guys will want to fall in love until theyve matured a lot and that can happen a lot later in life. All the guys i know say they dont want to get married. LOL. so yeah. About the guys who had girls like them but they didnt like them back, i mean i think some girls are crazy, too. They must have uranus or saturn afflicting possibly good feelings, because ive noticed that when the guy doesnt like the girl back its bc they obviously shouldnt be together..they argue, there's no understanding between them, they criticize each other etc. ------------------
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Ceridwen
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posted August 04, 2012 12:41 PM
BTW Lotiswhite,I seem to have noticed that the 8th house ruler not ALWAYS relates to an attraction-scenario, especially if there are no aspects to 5th and 7th house ruler. The 5th house ruler seems to be more "thrilling" and "activating" in this regard, though if the 5th house ruler is active and then there is an 8th house connection added to that, it seems to turn up the intensity very much. What did you observe in this regard? Do you have examples where an attraction through houserulers was based solely on 8th house connections (plus the traditional romantic planetary synastry of course) ?
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Dinobleue9
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posted August 04, 2012 01:18 PM
Scorpy-oh, the synastry is posted near the bottom of the first page.IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted August 04, 2012 02:13 PM
Its depends what do you consider sexual attraction aspects purely Venus/Mars? I'd say Sun or Asc + venus/mars/mercury/pluto. For me Venus/Mars aspects with someone seem harder to feel or more one sided when you initially meet someone. Example: a male friend of mine has sun-sun, moon-moon, venus-venus aspects but I wasn't initially sexually attracted to him at all, yet he was to me. I think it depends on the house placements and asc at first then over time if there are other aspects such as venus/mars that sexual attraction is sustain and doesn't dissolve. IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted August 04, 2012 07:46 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW Lotiswhite,I seem to have noticed that the 8th house ruler not ALWAYS relates to an attraction-scenario, especially if there are no aspects to 5th and 7th house ruler. The 5th house ruler seems to be more "thrilling" and "activating" in this regard, though if the 5th house ruler is active and then there is an 8th house connection added to that, it seems to turn up the intensity very much. What did you observe in this regard? Do you have examples where an attraction through houserulers was based solely on 8th house connections (plus the traditional romantic planetary synastry of course) ?
Yeah, I’ve noticed similar things. What I’ve noticed is that the 5th and the 7th are extremely activating, and that the 8th house seems to activate in response them. Yeah, the 5th house is extremely thrilling and stands out a lot in the beginning…. You notice that person really fast. I think the reason for this is that the 5th house rules the initial spark in a relationship, where we are first swept away by somebody. So when you have 5th house connections with somebody it’s like an instantaneous recognition of ‘your interesting’. 5th house connections make you fall in love right away. The 7th house rules established partnership and affection. This house can activate fast, if there are also 5th house connections in synastry, but it can also take it’s time when there are not…. Kind of like where you like the person so much and they grow on you. The 7th without the 5th is like a warm friendship that gets stronger and turns to love with time. Out of the 3 relationship houses, the 8th house rules the last phase of the relationship process….. Here we’ve moved in with the person, joined our resources, and consummated the relationship. In a sense you need to go through the 5th house (courtship) and the 7th house (official partnership) before you can fully access the 8th. If there are only 8th house connections in synastry and no 5th house and 7th house ones…. An activation to the 8th house may be slow to manifest, or it may not manifest at all. That being said, my 8th house ruler is the Moon and I’ve felt it activated very powerfully in the past, but there is always a 5th or 7th house connection as well in such cases. I guess my thoughts are that the 5th house opens the door to the 7th house, and the 7th house opens the door to the 8th house. Another thing to consider is that if you have 5th house connections with somebody and the 7th is missing you might not be able to see that person as the ‘one’ for you long term even if you are attracted. And if you have 7th house connections without the 8th , you might love to be with that person but sometimes it’s like you just can’t ‘reach’ them on a deeper level.
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And if the 5th and the 8th are activated but the 7th is not…. You might have an intense attraction to them and want to spill all your personal feelings to them, but you might not want to marry them. If the 5th and the 7th are activated and the 8th is not, this person is exciting and lovable to you but again it might feel like you can reach deeper into the connection. And if the 7th and the 8th are activated but the 5th is not, you really like this person, feel you can trust them, and have a physical attraction, but it’s like that certain exciting spark is missing. My feeling is that you need all three of the relationship houses activated one way or another to have a complete relationship. And if all of them are not activated it feels like something is ‘missing’. Having all of them activated is not hard though…. If the 5th and the 7th are strongly activated for instance, all you need is one aspect to the 8th ruler, or one planet in the sign of the 8th house cusp or it’s ruler, and you’re good. Even if you do have all of the relationship houses activated in synastry, different relationships will have slightly different vibes depending on how strongly each is activated, which is part of the fun of life. As long as each one of these houses is touched somehow in synastry there is a chance for a ‘complete’ relationship. Sometimes it might seem like one of these houses is not influenced when really it is… That’s when I start looking the secondary 5th, 7th and 8th houses…. Perhaps because it is an angular house, the secondary 7th seems to be especially potent, but I’ve noticed that the other ones work as well…. Actually, I’ve got some celebrity examples of the secondary 5th house in action…. Both Claire Danes and Patrick Swayze are/were Virgo risings… They have Capricorn on the 5th house cusp and Pisces on the 7th and yet both have married Gemini Suns…. Claire Danes is an Aries married to Gemini actor Hugh Dancy, and Leo Patrick Swayze had a very long marriage to Gemini Lisa Niemi…. Capricorn symbolically rules the 10th house, which for Virgo is Gemini. To be fair Danes does have Mercury in Pisces in the 7th house, and Swayze has the 8th house ruler in the 3rd house, but other than that there is nothing else in their respective natal charts to tie them to their respective partner’s Sun signs. Something as big in your psyche as the Sun aught to be strongly represented in your partner’s relationship houses. And that was the biggest connection I could find for these two couples. Anyway to summarize, the 5th catches fire really fast, the 7th builds up as the friendship builds up, and the 8th is a really slow burn of becoming intimately entwined with somebody. So activations to these houses seem to operate at different speeds, with the 8th being the slowest to reach, and most difficult to access if the 5th and the 7th are not also activated. And yeah, this is why the 8th house without the other houses might not activate a romance by itself.
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