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Dinobleue9
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posted August 03, 2012 01:43 PM
  
I'm curious. I'm working for a man whose Venus conjuncts my Mars exact, his Mars is in my 8th House squaring my Pluto. And his Pluto squares my Moon and Venus. I feel overwhelming sexual attraction to him. Is he feeling this too?? IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360
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posted August 03, 2012 02:10 PM
Hi,Well, having once met a guy myself with several similar aspects, my first guess would be yes. Has he said/done anything? Have you noticed if he acts differently around you? Do you seem to sense any "sparks?" IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted August 03, 2012 05:29 PM
Not always. Every chart has something that makes it click, turns it on, so if you're not activating that aspect of it, then even if there is Venus/Mars/Pluto there will be little to no attraction. But maybe it is enough to click for one person, but not the other. Or neither of them.IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted August 03, 2012 06:58 PM
I agree with Lonake ^ Not always.
I'm dealing with yet another Cap Mars man with his Mars on my Moon who will not leave me alone.. and I do NOT like him. At all.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted August 03, 2012 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I agree with Lonake ^ Not always.
I'm dealing with yet another Cap Mars man with his Mars on my Moon who will not leave me alone.. and I do NOT like him. At all.
You can see what each person feels, too. Do you all agree? ------------------
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Lotis White
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posted August 03, 2012 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
Not always. Every chart has something that makes it click, turns it on, so if you're not activating that aspect of it, then even if there is Venus/Mars/Pluto there will be little to no attraction. But maybe it is enough to click for one person, but not the other. Or neither of them.
I agree. Each natal chart has individual synastry requirements that switch it on for romantic/sexual attraction. And having traditional attraction aspects like Sun/Moon or Venus/Mars may not be enough to spark attraction, if a person’s individual synastry requirements for romantic/sexual attraction have not been ’activated’ or clicked on as Lonake put it. From what I’ve observed this has a lot to do with house overlays, and house ruler synastry... Aspects to your 5th, 7th, or 8th house rulers tend to make you attracted to a person, in the sense that they 'feel' like your type. Same thing if a person and planets in your 5th, 7th and 8th houses, AND they are also strongly aspecting your natal planets... This can really make someone 'feel' like they are appealing to you, even if they are not conventionally attractive... Actually, I strongly suspect that synastry involving the 5th, 7th and 8th houses is what ‘activates’ synastry in a romantic way. Without these connections in synastry it’s possible have a Venus/Mars conjunction with somebody and not be attracted to them.... But if a person activates the romance houses in your chart (5th,7th and 8th), it's like they 'awaken' the rest of your synastry to whatever potential sexual chemistry the two of you have... And if you have that Venus/Mars conjunction previously mentioned, it'll take on a romantic flavor... House ruler synastry opens the door to romance, and if you have the planetary synastry to back it up (like Sun/Moon, or Venus/Mars for example) a full fledged attraction can develop…. Where attraction can get lopsided, is when one person has their 5th, 7th, and 8th houses strongly activated by another person, but that other person has their 5th, 7th and 8th houses activated very little or not at all in return. Mutual attractions usually involve mutual 5th, 7th, and 8th house synastry as well as traditional romantic/ sexual attraction planetary aspects. Another factor that seems to ‘click on’ physical attraction are aspects is the Vertex/Anitvertex axis in synastry. Conjunctions and oppositions are particularly potent, but other aspects help as well. Mutual aspects in synastry involving each person’s Vertex/Antivertex axis are also an indicator of mutual attraction. To tell if the other person likely feels the attraction too, you’d need to have a detailed look at their birth chart.
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Lioness
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posted August 03, 2012 08:46 PM
LotisOnce again awesome info! ---------------------
Let me ask a question just for learning sakes.. Lets say me as an example.. My Dsc is in Virgo..
Ruler is Leo Merc in H6... Lets say I met a guy and he doesnt aspect my Mercury at all.
But HIS Mercury is conjunct my Venus Would I be attracted because its Mercury?? Or would I only be attracted if my Mercury is aspected? Also, If a Person Has Aqua on the DSC
Ruler Uranus, and there Uranus is heavily aspected.. Would that person want to commit? But since Uranus makes things unstable, would it even happen?
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Lotis White
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posted August 03, 2012 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
LotisOnce again awesome info! Let me ask a question just for learning sakes.. Lets say me as an example.. My Dsc is in Virgo..
Ruler is Leo Merc in H6... Lets say I met a guy and he doesnt aspect my Mercury at all.
But HIS Mercury is conjunct my Venus Would I be attracted because its Mercury?? Or would I only be attracted if my Mercury is aspected?
That’s an interesting question Lioness, and it’s something I’ve been thinking about. What I’m starting to see is that each of the relationship houses (the 5th, 7th, and 8th) has it’s own ‘echo’ which manifests in relationship synastry in various different ways… I’ll explain what I mean using your example of a Virgo Dsc ruled by Mercury in Leo HOW A RELATIONSHIP HOUSE ‘ECHO’ MANIFESTS 1. You find a partner whose planets fall into your 7th house itself 2. You find a partner who strongly aspects your Mercury. 3. You find a partner with the signs Virgo and/or Leo generally strong in their natal. 3. Your find a partner with the 6th and/or 5th houses strongly emphasized in their natal chart 4. You find a partner with a strongly emphasized Mercury and/or Sun in their natal chart. 5. You find a partner whose Mercury and/or Sun strongly aspects your chart in synastry. (to answer your question Lioness, yes think it’s possible to find someone else’s Mercury aspecting your chart attractive, although it may need to be backed up by other influences supporting an attraction) 6. You find a partner who strongly influences your 6th house in synastry (The sixth house is symbolically ruled by the sign on your Dsc which is Virgo, your 6th house works like a secondary Dsc). Here’s a list of the house cusps to look to as an extension of your DSC for each rising sign. These house cusps are symbolically linked to the sign on your DSC… showing what other traits you are attracted to in others, apart from just what the DSC alone shows. Aries rising, Libra DSC… The 7th house has double importance. Taurus rising, Scorpio DSC… look to the 8th house. Gemini rising, Sagittarius DSC… look to the 9th house Cancer rising, Capricorn DSC… look to the 10 house Leo rising, Aquarius DSC… look to the 11th house Virgo rising, Pisces DSC…look to the 12th house Libra rising, Aries DSC… look to the 1st house Scorpio rising, Taurus DSC… look to the 2nd house Sagittarius rising, Gemini DSC… look to the 3rd house Capricorn rising, Cancer DSC… look to the 4th house Aquarius rising, Leo DSC… look to the 5th house Pisces rising, Virgo DSC… look to the 6th house Can you see the pattern now? This same pattern can be used on all your other house cusps including the 5th and the 8th if you are interested in looking more deeply into your romantic tastes….
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I’ve done this using the example of your 7th house, but you can do the same thing for the other two relationship houses as well… the 5th and the 8th…. Any one of these houses could be dominant in a relationship depending on how two people influence each other’s charts. It’s all about how two charts interact that determines which of relationship houses have the strongest bearing on the relationship. Partners whose natal charts echo the characteristics the 5th, 7th and 8th houses will be those who are most attractive to us. The more they echo this back to us the stronger the attraction will be… Of course each of the relationship houses has it’s own set of ‘themes’ influencing the type of flavor the relationship has… From an astrological perspective, the 5th house is the ROMANCE/COURTSHIP period of the relationship, where we fall in love, and observe how special and unique the other person is. The 7th house is the MARRIAGE/COMMITMENT period of the relationship, where we relate as individuals, exchange appreciation, and make agreements… And the 8th house is the CONSUMATION/MERGING OF RESCOURCES period of the relationship, where after the being ‘united as one‘ officially, we become interdependent on each other through the sharing of ourselves and our stuff. Here’s a more detailed guide for examining the symbolism of …THE THREE RELATIONSHIP HOUSES THE 5TH HOUSE…
The 5th house cusp and ruler, plus planets in the 5th … Show who is romantically exciting to you, who impresses you, and who is the ’Apple of our Eye’. This house is the one in charge of romantic sparks, infatuation, adoration, and the epic saga of your personal love story… With a certain special someone. THE 7TH HOUSE…
The 7th house cusp and ruler, plus planets in the 7th house…Show who gives you feelings of sweet affection, warmth, established acceptance, and completion…. As if they offer you what you ‘need’ in a partner. The 7th house is not always exciting like the 5th house, rather it represents who you LIKE, and want relate to as a partner and friend in your daily existence. THE 8TH HOUSE…
And last but not least, the 8th house cusp and ruler, plus planets in the 8th… Show who attracts you in an intriguing, magnetic type of way… Here you want to figure the other person out, and merge with them in the most deep, intimate way possible. This house is where we share ourselves, and what we have to offer, with another physically, emotionally, and financially… to the point where our lives are inextricably intertwined.
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Lotis White
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posted August 03, 2012 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
LotisAlso, If a Person Has Aqua on the DSC
Ruler Uranus, and there Uranus is heavily aspected.. Would that person want to commit? But since Uranus makes things unstable, would it even happen?
This person would want unstable relationships??
Well, my point of view is that even is it is Uranus ruling the 7th house, it IS still the 7th house ruler. Such a person may need more freedom then average but that doesn’t mean they can’t commit…. Soft aspects to Uranus are probably more likely to induce stability though. I mean, it’s not that uncommon for Leo Asc people to get married, they just enjoy a partner who is intellectually stimulating and perhaps ‘different’ somehow.
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Lotis White
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posted August 03, 2012 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by Dinobleue9:
I'm curious. I'm working for a man whose Venus conjuncts my Mars exact, his Mars is in my 8th House squaring my Pluto. And his Pluto squares my Moon and Venus. I feel overwhelming sexual attraction to him. Is he feeling this too??
Do you have his birth time? IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 03, 2012 11:06 PM
Lotis White, you're amazing, I LOVED everything you said, except the list of correspondence involving ascendent and descendent and which house to look into. I have not found it to be true for me and in the charts i have studied. For instance, I am pisces rising and descendent virgo, and my 6th house has not been implicated in any of my serious relationships. IP: Logged |
Dinobleue9
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posted August 03, 2012 11:07 PM
No birth time. Here's our synastry.  Thanks for all the insightful answers! He definitely activates something in my chart because I felt it before I found out his birthday. IP: Logged |
scorpy_oh
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posted August 04, 2012 01:27 AM
Lotis White,thanks for sharing that. i found the bit about how a relationship house echo manifests interesting. i have an emphasized 6th house, and i tend to attract pisces ascendants or be drawn to them. but maybe that's partly due to the fact that my scorpio stellium would tend to fall into their 7th or 8th houses.
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Lioness
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posted August 04, 2012 02:46 AM
@Lotis..
Using my self as an example again... Continuing with what you said... I did Marry a Virgo with Leo Planets
He has ASC,Sun,Merc,Uranus,Pluto in virgo
Venus/Mars in Leo..
His, Asc,Uranus/Pluto in my 7th, everything else in my 6th, I have Sun,moon,Mercy all conjunct by 2 orbs so if you hit one, you hit all..
His Aries Moon Trine my leo stellium
His Neptune Sq my Leo Stellium.
Now his Mercury sextile my Venus
I guess he fit the bill for my 7th, so I married him... But honestly I didnt really feel that OMG he's the one for me...
I felt obligated (venus/saturn) Now with fishy.. I feel like OMG he's the one for me... I dont feel obligated, I have that whole soulmate feeling... Ahhhh.. His Saturn is conjunct my DSC
His pluto sextile my Leo set up
(new for me)
His Neptune trine my Leo set up..
His Mercury conjunct my ASC
He activates my h12 (opposite H6)
This guy is just blowing my mind... but does he really "fit my H7" Also would you always look at H7?
Or for 2nd marriage (per say) would you then look at H9?
Because oddly his moon is in my H9 IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted August 04, 2012 03:12 AM
Lioness,I look at all three of the relationship houses (the 5th, 7th, and 8th), as well as the Vertex Axis. Does he aspect the rulers of your 5th, and 8th houses? Or have planets in your 5th and 8th houses? I haven't personally explored the whole derivative houses thing where each marriage is said to be represented by a different house, I wouldn't rule the possibility out.
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Lioness
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posted August 04, 2012 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Lioness,I look at all three of the relationship houses… the 5th, 7th, and 8th… as well as the Vertex Axis. Does he aspect the rulers of your 5th, and 8th houses? Or have planets in your 5th and 8th houses? I haven’t personally explored the whole derivative houses thing where each marriage is said to be represented by a different house, I wouldn’t rule the possibility out.
I have Pluto/Uranus in H7 Ok fishy..
My H8 ruler = Venus
His Sun trine my Venus
His Uranus in my H8 My H5 Ruler = Moon
his neptune trine my Moon
his pluto sextile my moon
his uranus sq my moon
His jupiter in my H5 H7 Ruler Mercury
same as moon
his pluto,NN,Saturn in my H7 His NN/Saturn conjunct my Vertex
His Mercury on my anti vertex
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Lotis White
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posted August 04, 2012 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I have Pluto/Uranus in H7Ok fishy..
My H8 ruler = Venus
His Sun trine my Venus
His Uranus in my H8 My H5 Ruler = Moon
his neptune trine my Moon
his pluto sextile my moon
his uranus sq my moon
His jupiter in my H5 H7 Ruler Mercury
same as moon
his pluto,NN,Saturn in my H7 His NN/Saturn conjunct my Vertex
His Mercury on my anti vertex
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Lioness
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posted August 04, 2012 03:31 AM
I believe so, I had Kannon go over it, with some details, he believes he is a Leo rising. I also showed him his pic.
But its intercepted my Virgo with Saturn in H1IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted August 04, 2012 04:05 AM
Lioness, My H8 ruler = Venus
His Sun trine my Venus
His Uranus in my H8 This I really like the Sun/Venus aspect… warm and intimate at the same time. If he is a Leo rising his 7th house ruler falls into your 8th house (has a Venus/Pluto vibe) My H5 Ruler = Moon
his neptune trine my Moon
his pluto sextile my moon
his uranus sq my moon
His jupiter in my H5 Jupiter in the 5th synastry tends to have a very childlike, innocent generosity to it that I like. If he really is a Leo rising, the Uranus square your Sun aspect means you have an intense impact on his 7th house (your 5th house ruler square his 7th house ruler). Also, if he is a Leo rising he more then likely has Sag on the 5th house cusp… His 5th house ruler in your 5th house has a nice synchronicity to it…. Does his jupiter make any big aspects to your chart? H7 Ruler Mercury
same as moon
his pluto,NN,Saturn in my H7 If he is a Leo rising with Virgo intercepted in the 1st, and Saturn conjunct your Dsc… I’d say this is definitely a link to your 7th house symbolism. Your Dsc is Virgo, ruled by Mercury in Leo… His first house is a symbolism match to your 7th house. Also, if he has the Sun in Pisces in his 7th or 8th house… and you are a Leo with Pisces rising, then your Sun/Asc combo is a symbolism match to his 7th or 8th house. His 11th house would be like a secondary Dsc for him with Leo rising… do you have planets in his 11th… maybe your Venus in Cancer? His Moon is in your 9th house… is it in Scorpio… that could be significant if you have Pluto in the 7th and he has a Scorpio Moon. It would be a symbolism match too. His NN/Saturn conjunct my Vertex
His Mercury on my anti vertex This means that his words and his sense of responsibility/commitment strike a chord in you. He sticks in your memory, makes an impact. Personally, I love vertex connections. They feel very synchronistic, fated. His Pluto and Neptune aspect your Leo stellium…. These are outer planets but how they become personal is through house rulerships. Regardless the Pluto and Neptune connection between you would be a mix of passion and compassion if the aspects are tight. If he is a Leo rising then his 8th house cusp is more then likely Pisces, in which case Neptune is his 8th house ruler aspecting all of your personals.
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Lioness
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posted August 04, 2012 04:19 AM
Thanks Lotis.. If so, we have Venus in each others H11
his moon in Sag, conjunct my Neptune (my chart ruler) His Jupiter (leo)in my H5,
It trines my Neptune
sextile my pluto As for his H7.
He has Sun/Merc in h7 Mars in H6 but conjunct the Dsc. We have double whammies all over the place.
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Lotis White
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posted August 04, 2012 04:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lioness:
Thanks Lotis.. If so, we have Venus in each others H11
his moon in Sag, conjunct my Neptune (my chart ruler) His Jupiter in my H5,
It trines my Neptune
sextile my pluto As for his H7.
He has Sun/Merc in h7 Mars in H6 but conjunct the Dsc. We have double whammies all over the place.
If he has an Aqua Dsc then your Venus in his 11th would be very attractive to him. His 5th house ruler trine your 1st house ruler is a good sign. Kinda which I could see both of your charts so I could see all the interesting connections there. Seems like a lot. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted August 04, 2012 04:30 AM
IDK what it is exactly.. All I know is I have never ever felt like this before... Drives me insane.. But no matter what, I just cant let it go...
We are having a disagreement right now,over jealousy.. First he was mad at me, now Im mad at him, and he asked me if Im ready to make up yet.. I said no... lol
He also has planets conjunct my angles.
His merc conjunct my asc
his Saturn conjunct my dsc
His neptune conjunt my MC
No conjunctions to my IC
Btw. Our planets would be in each others H12.
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Lioness
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posted August 04, 2012 04:35 AM
We have everything going on..
The composite is even more intense.
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12thhouser
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posted August 04, 2012 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by Odette:
I agree with Lonake ^ Not always.
I'm dealing with yet another Cap Mars man with his Mars on my Moon who will not leave me alone.. and I do NOT like him. At all.
Curious, but why do you think it's just his Cap Mars on your Cap Moon that's such a turn off to you? Could there be other aspects at work? IP: Logged |
frankie2912
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posted August 04, 2012 04:50 AM
For me - yes, but only when it's a Venus-Mars conjunction, and only when it's MY venus, his mars.IP: Logged | |
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