posted August 05, 2012 11:28 PM            

Check the 8th house and its ruler. We usually think of that house as the place of "shared resources," but it's also the place of obsessions!

Saturn can cause distorted behaviour, too. Saturn in the 6th house can make someone become incredibly focused on their health and body, OR to ignore their health altogether until there's a crisis. Saturn in the 2nd house can make someone cautious with their money or it can mean that they will have to work very hard for what they earn. But it also can show that a person is obsessed with money--miserly, etc.

Suspicion and paranoia about others' is usually reflected in 3rd house problems since these things come across as communication issues.

Uranus, particularly when cooperating with Neptune, can encourage someone to have a sense that the ordinary rules don't apply to them, which can feed an addiction, too.

posted August 05, 2012 11:58 PM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:

I agree, I have Jupiter opposition Uranus exactly, so I probably have an addiction to freedom?

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posted August 06, 2012 12:00 AM            

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Originally posted by TheManticore:

No alcohol for me either, I can't see the point of drinking to be honest, or maybe it's my health conscious Virgo Stellium?

I am also waiting for the right person (as cliche as it sounds), or at least that's what I tell myself lol

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Sorry I missed your post, couldn't get over my comment lol

That's great! and I hope you find the one

posted August 06, 2012 12:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Would it be Neptune? Conversely, what would show a lack of an addictive personality? I've never had an addiction that I'm aware of--not alcohol, tobacco, drugs...or Facebook.

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Neptune vs Earth. Dreams and alternative world/escapism vs hard core reality and living dealing with issues now for the sake of tomorrow. Neptune vs Saturn/Pluto.

You are Cap Sun,Moon Virgo rising. Any planet in H6 and you can be a textbook example.

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posted August 07, 2012 05:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Moonfish:
Sorry I missed your post, couldn't get over my comment lol

That's great! and I hope you find the one

Hmm Virgo? Could be. I have virgo in jupiter 6H and it trines my neptune-uranus-north node

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Thanks! You too .

posted August 07, 2012 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Lack of addictions may be a strong Saturn. It may be a strong core level Pluto, too i.e one's primal passions are under one's control. I would say that a well aspected Neptune would help. An afflicted Neptune may be the most prone to addictions, as others have said.

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This sounds right, I have Saturn conjunct Neptune. Also my Moon is conjunct Pluto.

Self control much you think?

posted August 07, 2012 06:35 PM            

I have an addictive personality. I have to kind of wear myself out surrounding that particular desire and then I just kind of finish with that thing and it moves from an addiction to just being part of me in a healthy way...if that makes sense. I have to learn my lessons the hard way basically. I had an issue with binge drinking in my early 20s, but I wasn't an alcoholic from the perspective of it being an addiction.

posted August 07, 2012 06:55 PM            

i like to think all my addictions are in moderation, but i'll drink and smoke more with stress, for sure. relationship breakdowns can cause a period of raging self destruct.

posted August 07, 2012 07:59 PM            

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Would it be Neptune? Conversely, what would show a lack of an addictive personality? I've never had an addiction that I'm aware of--not alcohol, tobacco, drugs...or Facebook.

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In the natal chart, markers of unrelenting energy with angular aspect reinforcement. Fire sign/planet emphasis in which the person reaches for substances to sedate/narcotize the force of the energy within or further amplifies it physically.

This can also be indicated in hard aspects to Pluto, which are desire/energy intensifiers.

Also natally, indicators of the need to build self-worth/image. The person who walks around all the time with a feeble, negative image of themselves may feel the need to reach for something that sedates/narcotizes these thoughts or that gives them an escape. Generally stressful aspects by inner planets/Asc/Sun/Moon, etc to Neptune. Especially Asc/Moon. With these types of aspects one is far more given to struggles of self-doubt because it is harder to 'see' their worth or feel it.

Neptune aspects in this way set up a situation that cannot be superficially solved with affirmations of personal compliments alone, but requires a big-picture, more metaphysical view of self to develop. Sometimes people externalize this in the form of artistry and miss the metaphysical view, being mesmerized by the externalized images/moods/feelings and the form they take.

Neptune = substances of a sedative, hypnotic or euphoric nature that are not stimulants alone (caffeinated, etc). Opiates, Cannabis, alcohol, things particularly in water form that evaporate easily, homeopathic medicines, Rx drugs of a synthetic nature.

People with hard natal aspects with Neptune who are still struggling with self-image/worth are generally ill-advised to use any toxic 'psychotropic' substances, natural or not, especially plants of a seductive or very appealing aroma or appearance. This would be to simply exaggerate or reinforce the hard-aspect Neptune dynamic. Better to use caffeinated beverages, etc, which enhance mental processes and aid clarity of mind.

Essentially, there is no need to numb or narcotize a self that is not in pain. It might be merely a transient condition of the body or the result of a person's ongoing self-talk/emotional state.

In fact, all plants are essentially Venus-ruled. It is what they do in our bodies that determines that gives them a Neptune rulership (they are 'psychotropic' in a way that affects patterns that can become problematic dependence).

"Lack of" notions are something that I usually try to avoid, because they try to point to something definite where nothing actually shows. However, it is Saturn in healthy, flowing aspects with Sun, Moon, etc, that generally point to a person who self monitors and inhibits enough to avoid addiction or be more honest about it. Saturnine (scythe) nature holds the ability to 'cut out' something that is of no benefit.
Flowing aspects involving Pluto are also evidence of some ability to master oneself/behaviors.