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lovehate122
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posted August 10, 2012 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to shed light on the subject and see if anyone else is familliar with this . I have alot of relationships like this but this one is VERY interesting trust me .

We have Sun opposite pluto (very tight).
Venus Opposite Pluto
Moon square Pluto
Mars sextile Pluto
Jupiter square pluto
Uranus square pluto


Im the first planet . NOW THE INTERESTING THING IS ...these aspects are occuring in the 2nd and 8th house involving the signs Taurus and Scorpio .

As the personal planet person i feel nothing but intense hatred which isn't strange for me , i feel absolute disgust and repulsion his presence scares me and i just really hate his bones , the thought of kissing him (i just had my dinner)..UGH !
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He has moon square pluto in his own chart in the second house and this aspect is opposite my venus in his eigth house.

Interesting no? I HATE talking to him but i put it down to this he has planets in my 11th house and I have planets in his 5th. He sometimes acts like my biggest fan and i feel so sorry for him that i just really don't like this guy .

I don't know how the pluto is supposed to feel in all this but i just really don't understand how people can be obsessed with someone and be "transformed" this doesn't feel like that for me i just feel creeped out and like i want to run a thousand miles.

Can anyone relate ? I think he is attracted to me i don't want to imagine him being obsessed Because its just too overwhelming.

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posted August 10, 2012 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto-aspects can go down to both directions; either intense attraction or intense loathing.
The only thing you can say for sure is that probably it is going to be intense (esp. with the hard aspects).

Now, if it is experienced as attraction or repulsion is of course dependent on many factors. But one might be how you are compatible on a personal level (which of course brings the personal planets into play).


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posted August 10, 2012 06:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have alot of Neptune aspects to his personal planets . Neptune is in my 1st house . Even though most signs show he would be attracted to me his 5th house rules his eigth house and i fill in both of them but he could be repulsed by me too . One aspect we do have is Venus Square moon . Ooooh i hate him . (intensity)

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posted August 10, 2012 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto can always swing to both extremes, but im thinking the intense hatred is being caused "mainly" by the tight sun pluto opp. Close, hard sun pluto aspects in synastry can cause a very extreme type of enmity between two people if other factors are present. What is both of your mars doing?
Because you are all inner planet and he is all pluto, he is feeling this very differnet than you are, he may be sexually obsessed with you because of the venus pluto.

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posted August 10, 2012 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey scrappydog, "hard sun pluto aspects in synastry can cause a very extreme type of enmity between two people if other factors are present. What is both of your mars doing?'' i wuld assume sun square pluto would also create enmity between people. who hates the other erson the most, pluto hates sun or sun hates pluto/

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posted August 11, 2012 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
hey scrappydog, "hard sun pluto aspects in synastry can cause a very extreme type of enmity between two people if other factors are present. What is both of your mars doing?'' i wuld assume sun square pluto would also create enmity between people. who hates the other erson the most, pluto hates sun or sun hates pluto/

I can's stand the pluto and would love to hit him over the head repeatedly! But really tho , My mars is aspecting his pluto and His sun is trine my mars

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posted August 11, 2012 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have intense Pluto synastry with a person in my life - Moon-Pluto conjunct & Moon-Pluto sextile, Pluto-Venus conjunct, Pluto sq. Sun+Jupiter. These aspects immediately made the relationship familiar, unnerving, and it dragged out serious control issues in me [since I am 12H Pluto and these usual issues aren't as extreme...].

Pluto sq. Sun is probably the trickiest. I have a way of trying to influence him with my opinions and make him change the way he is. I subtly control. He probably dislikes it but we have such an emotional connection as of right now I'd doubt he'd get angry at me for it. He corrects my control in gentle ways... maybe because my Pluto conjuncts his Moon.

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posted August 11, 2012 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have it in both the synastry AND our composite.


I think so, yes.


It's odd because the sun in our composite is all sweetness and light, but the Pluto in our composite is heavily afflicted. It's like there's a dark undertow.

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posted August 11, 2012 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
theres nothing worse than this aspect !
How come its supossed to be mutual obsessin , i feel nothing sexually but i do feel hatred and like i just really want to hurt his feelings which would be easy since he's a weak little...oooh!

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posted August 12, 2012 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@lovehate122: which aspect are you talking about sun/pluto?

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posted August 12, 2012 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
@lovehate122: which aspect are you talking about sun/pluto?

sun opposition pluto yes

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posted August 12, 2012 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
loooool are you sun or are you pluto? why do you want to hurt his feelings so bad? looool this is kind interesting

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posted August 13, 2012 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lovehate122:
sun opposition pluto yes


Interesting. I never had Sun with Pluto. That would be identity/ ego reacting to Pluto/primal passion

I can see that may be a mega power play thing.

I had Moon/Pluto which is divine and Venus/Pluto which is the same


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posted August 13, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am all the inner planets ! The sun,Venus and moon his pluto is apecting ALL my personal planets and i feel nothing but hate and when he looks at me or talks to me i cant look him in the eye its like my body NEEDS to leave i Have to go away . Its like my body is telling him "I don't want you" i think he knows this and it makes him feel bad or something its just hard to keep it platonic , and the thing is he has a girlfriend but we still have this ubber romantic synastry .

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posted August 13, 2012 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I don't know how the pluto is supposed to feel in all this but i just really don't understand how people can be obsessed with someone and be "transformed" this doesn't feel like that for me i just feel creeped out and like i want to run a thousand miles.

Can anyone relate ? I think he is attracted to me i don't want to imagine him being obsessed Because its just too overwhelming.[/B]


Well, dear, you have too many Pluto based squares and opposition with this person for it to be attractive. So many hard aspects create repulsion instead of attraction.

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posted August 13, 2012 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lovehate122:
I am all the inner planets ! The sun,Venus and moon his pluto is apecting ALL my personal planets and i feel nothing but hate and when he looks at me or talks to me i cant look him in the eye its like my body NEEDS to leave i Have to go away . Its like my body is telling him "I don't want you" i think he knows this and it makes him feel bad or something its just hard to keep it platonic , and the thing is he has a girlfriend but we still have this ubber romantic synastry .

Umm, no. All these pluto squares and oppositions do not make for uber romantic synastry. I think you have misunderstood what it means to have heavy Pluto in synastry. An overabundance of hard aspects (and I am not including conjunctions as they do not have the negativity of squares and oppositions here) does not make for mutual attraction and can even lead to one person killing the other, so this is not something to toy with.

On a side note, I wonder if you have stressful Pluto aspects natally in your chart, because of the name you chose, lovehate. Love turning to or mixed with hate is a familiar emotion in Venus/Pluto hard aspects.

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posted August 13, 2012 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
Umm, no. All these pluto squares and oppositions do not make for uber romantic synastry. I think you have misunderstood what it means to have heavy Pluto in synastry. An overabundance of hard aspects (and I am not including conjunctions as they do not have the negativity of squares and oppositions here) does not make for mutual attraction and can even lead to one person killing the other, so this is not something to toy with.

On a side note, I wonder if you have stressful Pluto aspects natally in your chart, because of the name you chose, lovehate. Love turning to or mixed with hate is a familiar emotion in Venus/Pluto hard aspects.


i chose this name because at the time i liked a guy with that tatooed on him not the 122 that was just random . I have moon sextile pluto and pluto sextile my ascendant but im not an obsessive person .

What i meant was we have other good aspects id rather focus on than this like
venus conjunct jupiter in his 5th house
My Neptune,moon,jupiter and uranus in his 5th .
Lilith conjunct neptune
my mars and lilith in his 12th house
he has alot of planets in my 11th house .
i see him in a Platonic way i am willing to have fun and be friends BUT i just can't ignore ...ok i'll put it like this

My mind is saying "see what will happen try and be friends" but my body is saying "Run Tatiana run LEAVE!!"

So if we are both repulsed by each other sexually than we can still be friends no?

Thats all i want . But he does creep me out to the very core of my being . I also don't understand this . I also think its important to take into account that his pluto is expressed in a second house way with the help of his moon .

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posted August 13, 2012 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But why would he be repulsed by me? my pluto is perfectly ok not making any aspects to his personal planets ?
Im not a plutonic person i have WAAAY to much air to put up with that controlling bull .

hes the intense brooding one , he has moon square pluto , sun sextile pluto , mars in scorpio , neptune sextile pluto ..i think thats it.

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posted August 13, 2012 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't know why he creep you out to the very core of your being, you may not understand why he may be repulsed by you. In other words, if you don't understand what makes you tick, you may not understand what makes someone else tick.

You do have all those planets in his 5th house, but that is not a guarantee of attraction, mutual or one way. Does he have personal planets there that your planets are conjuncting? What is your relationship to the ruler of his 5th house?

I get it that he may be more Plutonic than you, but I think that on some level, you have latched on to the idea that heavy Pluto in synastry = obsessiveness, and you are not willing to let go of it, and perhaps you feel deep down that he is obsessed with you. You mention having an intense hate for him, which is kind of strange, unless he has done something to you, and I wonder if you're not fighting some undercover attraction. Just saying.

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posted August 13, 2012 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Disregard my last post.

If you have such intense hatred for someone who hasn't done anything to you, just stay away from him. Don't even try to be friends.

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posted August 13, 2012 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, you shouldn't try to be friends if you wish to hurt him. You don't want that kind of karma.

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posted August 13, 2012 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think lovehate is trying to fight the power he has over her because she doesn't like losing control and when around him maybe she feels as if he is consuming her. i can definetly be wrong, but this is just something to think about. i mean if he creeps you out then just stay away.

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posted August 13, 2012 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes yes and yes my ex's pluto touched all of my planets at tight orbs.He was very obsessive with me.

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posted August 14, 2012 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by curiouswoman:
I think lovehate is trying to fight the power he has over her because she doesn't like losing control and when around him maybe she feels as if he is consuming her. i can definetly be wrong, but this is just something to think about. i mean if he creeps you out then just stay away.

Thats exactly how i feel . I haven't latched onto any ideas about who is obsessed with who but i have latched onto the idea to just ignore my feelings regarding his pluto touching all my personal planets and just focus on the good aspects we have .

@Belage he has venus in his 5th house and its ruler is his 2nd house My sun is Taurus .

And I guess the reason i hate him so much is because i feel as if there is some feeling for me that he will never tell me and its intense it feels like hatred or something strong and i guess i feel like i didn't do ANYTHING i just want to be your friend but you hurt my feelings in a way i can never tell you because i know you'll never tell me...if that makes any sense . I don't feel any sexual attraction i don't even want a kiss off him i just want to be happy why does everything have to be so negative . i want to be his friend i guess because i know i can't be a lover and i don't want to be so thats one problem solved BUT i feel like we have some issues to resolve then i can move on because if he is doing all these things because he thinks im a disgusting human being then FORGET it i don't need that!

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posted August 14, 2012 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovehate122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Belage:
[B]If you don't know why he creep you out to the very core of your being, you may not understand why he may be repulsed by you.

I think i feel like he will physically harm me thats why he creeps me out i feel as if he has some kind of strong intense hatred or something towards me so i react by hating him . Thats the way i operate i mirror behavior that i don't like in people and aint no aspect no matter how big and bad it may seem is going to change that . so the sun will enter into yet ANOTHER plutonic relationship and come out stronger because the sun has a strong feeling this is karmic and is determined to either be rejected or excepted and MOVE ON !

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