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redshift
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posted August 15, 2012 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mmmkay.

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posted August 15, 2012 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

I respect evolved Scorp energy,but I don't see how's this winning. And if they indeed win,that's a nod to game playing,and by this the wronged Scop is reduced down to hypocrisy.

Quite the opposite. Shutting someone out, who's playing stupid games is the best way to eliminate that kind of bull. If someone likes me, I expect them to be kind and not pull stunts to test me or whatever. If they do, I just don't want them in my life and I cut them out. Simple as that. Game over.

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posted August 15, 2012 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
By the way, this thought enters my head at random. My Capricorn friend has told me, previously to a Cancer guy, "he'd be a complete moron, not to like you". I have alot to offer. Well in that sense regardless of what I want out of this situation, those words still ring true for me. He'd be a true C.M. if he didn't have the time of day for me. He already got free service from me. What guy can turn that down? lol

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posted August 15, 2012 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by redshift:
Quite the opposite. Shutting someone out, who's playing stupid games is the best way to eliminate that kind of bull. If someone likes me, I expect them to be kind and not pull stunts to test me or whatever. If they do, I just don't want them in my life and I cut them out. Simple as that. Game over.

I have issue with word "winning" - implies competition,game etc.
Shutting sb out - yes I can see that. But,Scorps invented the game playing - testing,probing. Is their distaste for game playing what lies behind the shutting out or not having the upper hand ?

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posted August 15, 2012 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I have issue with word "winning" - implies competition,game etc.
Shutting sb out - yes I can see that. But,Scorps invented the game playing - testing,probing. Is their distaste for game playing what lies behind the shutting out or not having the upper hand ?

I would say that testing and probing is not game playing, it's just what it is. Testing and probing. Scorpios are very sensitive, emotional people who feel very intense compared to others and therefore need to be sure it's okay to proceed, when they are having strong feelings for someone. By winning, I mean, if you have a game playing attitude with a Scorpio, don't expect to win. It won't get you anywhere and the Scorp is likely to mistrust you and mark you off the list of possible mates or just intensely dislike you. I don't think Scorpios really do like playing games. They are just very cautious before opening up.

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posted August 15, 2012 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted August 15, 2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for butterflyxoxxo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Im confused, so you took a menu as in he works at a restaurant?

This is why I would never date a scorpio there could be a dozen or more things going on in his personal life that you dont know about that effect his emotions/actions at any given time.

I do not think he likes you as much as you might think? For instance there was this guy who I was seeing recently. I was super sweet action wise (folded his clothes, helped if he asked) but I hardly ever approached first. And I recently told him to cut all contact with me, completely shocked him.

Basically, after some testing and probing I figured out he wasnt the guy for me. He might just be sizing you up. But we play by double standards that is we expect to be able to be manipulative, but we want you to be sincere and honest.

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posted August 15, 2012 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by butterflyxoxxo:
Im confused, so you took a menu as in he works at a restaurant?

This is why I would never date a scorpio there could be a dozen or more things going on in his personal life that you dont know about that effect his emotions/actions at any given time.

I do not think he likes you as much as you might think? For instance there was this guy who I was seeing recently. I was super sweet action wise (folded his clothes, helped if he asked) but I hardly ever approached first. And I recently told him to cut all contact with me, completely shocked him.

Basically, after some testing and probing I figured out he wasnt the guy for me. He might just be sizing you up. But we play by double standards that is we expect to be able to be manipulative, but we want you to be sincere and honest.


See that doesn't work for me, at all. I just explained above in detail my thoughts. Read all my junk carefully, it is all in there. What you don't understand, ask me directly. See this is what I wish Scorpions would do! Stop with the assuming and sizing and just be up front and honest. That is a total mind game to me and I won't stand for it. I will knock every single Scorpion back to their hole if they even think about doing such tasks to me. I am no monkey to monkey around with. Butterfly with all respect, that wasn't a very wise thing to do to that person. You basically confused the ever living jeebies out of him. That is the kind of stuff I do not tolerate. That is a game. I hate games. If they are fun, so be it! If they are to harm, trust me my stinger is worse then yours and I don't have one. (that depends on the deed the reaction one will receive)

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posted August 15, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by redshift:
I would say that testing and probing is not game playing, it's just what it is. Testing and probing. Scorpios are very sensitive, emotional people who feel very intense compared to others and therefore need to be sure it's okay to proceed, when they are having strong feelings for someone. By winning, I mean, if you have a game playing attitude with a Scorpio, don't expect to win. It won't get you anywhere and the Scorp is likely to mistrust you and mark you off the list of possible mates or just intensely dislike you. I don't think Scorpios really do like playing games. They are just very cautious before opening up.


Thank you Red. That explains very much for me. I can understand how that works and I am ok with that. I am so with you there on much of this statement.

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posted August 15, 2012 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by redshift:
I would say that testing and probing is not game playing,

Of course not,you're a Scorp
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it's just what it is. Testing and probing.

And how do you think other people call this? What is normal to you,for the guinea pigs of the zodiac is game playing.(I know,it's their problem if the see it that way) But,place yourself in their shoes for a second - wouldn't you think the same? "Hm,let's test her in this situation...how will she react I wonder..." = of course,this is not conscious thinking,they just react on raw impulse.Little spider you,weaving the web..
I used to think that there is a difference between game playing and testing. Then I realized that testing is fundamentally a game.

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Scorpios are very sensitive, emotional people who feel very intense compared to others and therefore need to be sure it's okay to proceed, when they are having strong feelings for someone.

And therefore entitled to probing?
Testing/Game is like a flirt (inconjunction to Gem) to Scorps,the path of proving yourself to them. And if you are very into Scorp voodoo,I bet you'd find it thrilling,ritualistic

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By winning, I mean, if you have a game playing attitude with a Scorpio, don't expect to win. It won't get you anywhere and the Scorp is likely to mistrust you and mark you off the list of possible mates or just intensely dislike you. I don't think Scorpios really do like playing games. They are just very cautious before opening up.

I have to chime in with a personal experience,I always win with Scorps. I find it so amusing. #Leo

You say cautious - watching their steps? That's a game too

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I understand why you are opposed to this - it put Scorps in bad light,but it is not the game that makes it bad,but the need to rename it,or to justify it. I am not talking about players when I speak of game playing.

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posted August 15, 2012 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another thought! And I will shut up.

Any person, no matter what their sign is, male or female is going to have this one general rule. Even you Scorpions can agree with this.

When you are doing something whatever it may be to someone, you have to know that no matter who you are dealing with is going to take your actions of what YOU do and put that into their own account and react to what you give out. This entire scene for instance. He knows what he is doing, and he has to know that I am going to react accordingly. So IF it were just the testing probing stuff, there should be no reason why I cannot justify that and do the same thing myself. Right? That whole double standard junk is just that, junk. You cannot expect to get anyone or anywhere with that type of attitude. It is give and take no matter who you are. If you want something in your favor, you are best not to probe and pry and be on the sly. Just be honest. If you are crushed, well so are the many millions of others acting just like you. How do you avoid being crushed? Stop with the so called mind games that the rest of us perceive as. If your counterpart suspects you as a game ritual, you are going to end up with the exact same results, sorry to say my friends. If you want sincerity and honesty, you have to give that out to gain it. For example- guy is interested in gal, what is the wisest thing he can do? Be front forth and honest and respectful. You will get more bees with honey than with eggs, cornflakes, and Styrofoam. So don't egg your target on. Don't be corny and flake off on them. Don't place yourself foamy if you want a solid brick house. Take the lead. Ya'll are power houses right? Be that surified powerful being without abusing YOURSELF. Then all the honeys flock to you naturally. There is no testing or probing involved.

Maybe this Scorpion thing is too much for my brain to handle. None the less, it is teaching me something. Everything I stated above. I am after all, the genius. lol! I hope some have learned from me as well. I ultimately hope this guy learns from me as well too. He surely needs it. I know his life, he needs me (it)!

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posted August 15, 2012 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I have to chime in with a personal experience,I always win with Scorps. I find it so amusing. #Leo

You say cautious - watching their steps? That's a game too

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I understand why you are opposed to this - it put Scorps in bad light,but it is not the game that makes it bad,but the need to rename it,or to justify it. I am not talking about players when I speak of game playing.


Thank You!!! You are a Genius! My kind of people.

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posted August 15, 2012 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am Scorpio Rising and have strong Scorpio in my chart.I would say mind games are intentional.Sometimes I play mind games just to know what type of response I would get from the next person,just to know how much control I have over the situation.Sometimes I play mind games just for the sake of some drama if things are getting too boring,sometimes I play them just to improve my manipulating skills .

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posted August 15, 2012 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am Scorpio Rising and have strong Scorpio in my chart.I would say mind games are intentional.Sometimes I play mind games just to know what type of response I would get from the next person,just to know how much control I have over the situation.Sometimes I play mind games just for the sake of some drama if things are getting too boring,sometimes I play them just to improve my manipulating skills .

lmao! That sure has me laughing! I see myself doing these exact same things too for the heck of it. I have that ridiculous Scorp moon, but even I can wisen up and be actually respectful. If I see the other person tortured in anyway I pull the plug. If they are having fun with it and its harmless, by all be, probe and manipulate. If all else fails, its good to sharpen your skills no matter what they are. lol

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posted August 15, 2012 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anonymidarkness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capricorn Sun:
lmao! That sure has me laughing! I see myself doing these exact same things too for the heck of it. I have that ridiculous Scorp moon, but even I can wisen up and be actually respectful. If I see the other person tortured in anyway I pull the plug. If they are having fun with it and its harmless, by all be, probe and manipulate. If all else fails, its good to sharpen your skills no matter what they are. lol


Come on you have Scorpio moon,why are you afraid of mind games?My advice is to talk with this guy about some different subject and suddenly divert it to your subject.He may lose bit of composure and reveal something.Ask him directly,he will either run away or let you in.If his mind games seem harmless,play along with him,you will win his trust eventually.

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posted August 15, 2012 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capricorn Sun:
Can I ask questions? There seems to be no posts that are in my direct line of fire. :P


What do you mean, Sunny?

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posted August 15, 2012 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would but I am no longer in the cycle. I left the door open but I haven't returned to be on the other side of it. In all reality, others have made me realize what I did. I basically turned his entire scheme around on him and placed it all upon himself. Now he can figure out what he wants to do with it. Give him something new to think about. If he wants my services, he knows how to reach me. If he's way to leery of me, it will remain as it is. Me in question. lol

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posted August 15, 2012 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What do you mean, Sunny?


All I meant was I wanted to ask first if I could ask questions and start ranting. I was on another astrology website and they basically told me off and booted me off. lol

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posted August 15, 2012 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, time for confessions.

Yeah my moon is in Scorpio, so I do know what is going on. Here's the deal-

Scorpios feel on a deep level that no other sign can dominate. My earth ruler keeps me in check of all being balanced. It does not mesh with the feely scorpy who wants to come out of the closet and dance! Ok thats my Sag talking, but none the less my earth and water are always at a battle and it leaves me in confusion.

Yes I know this person wants to know me. I can feel that very much so.
I am confused because I really don't know what to do with it.
I am also afraid of letting my water flow and making a river right through the heart of it. My earthly being wont allow that to happen.

So what happens? I remain right where I am. In my own confusion. I'm used to getting my way and guys adoring me if they have any interest what so ever. I'm beyond confused why this guy is not reacting like all my others before him. There are two conflicting dices rolling and neither of them are fitting into my description of life.

Ok so he wants to know me. Why isn't he taking the time to talk to me??? Why would I be feeling this so very strongly if it were not true? Why is he not on this like most interested males are? I don't see the hold up. Dude you know you want this, so be out right about it!

Ok so what does he do, he just keeps me stringing along. And to top that off, if he were actually bluffing me, he never has the attitude for such a maneuver. He is way too nice to me! That confuses me even the more of course.

Why would someone be acceptionally genuine to me and give me the persona he is a caring person, but on the other end of the spectrum, just after so much give me the cold run off?

Yes I have answered my own questions. I love hearing y'alls feedbacks. I have it mastered down to one very basic objective. He doesn't want to lose control is why he is not proceeding the way I suspect he shall. If he gives in, then I have won a victory. As it stands right now, I took everything he ever did and put it back on him.

He did the gazing ordeal. I returned it.
He had a couple tantrums, light ones, none the less. I retorted the same effect.
He lended me his property and bailed. So I took it in return that I gained something of his. That entire time he's wondering when I will return.
When I did, I managed to state a fair play. Ok so enough with the games I tell myself. If this guy is for real and he wants anything at all to do with me, he has to contact ME.
I am no longer puppeting to his play. I went into it with fair play. I did what I wanted to do. Now he has no choice in the matter if he wants to continue to see this gorgeous face.

As a Scorpion it is hard feeling things that we don't always want to surface. He's doing the exact same thing I am, covering it up. The whole battle of why the heck is he doing that? He's thinking the same thing, "Why is she doing that?" I know for certain he's pondering what I want and that is why I'm left in the lil maze all by myself. I gave no more about myself then he did of himself. Yes as being in the Scorp state of mind, it is all about the mystery. I have plenty of that. So basically I am ticking myself off. I want the answers but I don't want to give any either. He's doing that same ol ritual with me. Only so much and then distance. I totally get it. I just wish he wasn't doing it at times. I have put illusions in my mind that I want, and I know that is why I became obsessed and wanted it ALL. I did us both a favor and backed off. I was actually creeping myself out more then he could ever try to creep me out.

I have an affair in the back of my mind that surfaces quite frequently. I figured out why I am attracted in that direction. It's mainly about power, baby. lol He owns a business, and I want a slice of my pie. I also realize that he has those same blue eyes as I've always had in my life before. They hypnotize me. I become starstruck in some lala land that doesn't exist. This is why I so desperately want that hug. I want to be assured that my blue eyed leos dont hate me. I can't get that from them, maybe I can get it from Mr. Scorpio. But it isn't justifying if the leo's even matter. It is essential to my core that it matters to me, that I am well deserving of something so righteously mine. I know that sounds possessive and pathetic. He for sure isn't mine, obviously, or I wouldn't be on here trying to figure him out. lol Yet I have this burning attachment that I cannot explain in reality terms. Something I just "feel" that is already mine. And if that isn't the damnedest of the damned, I really don't know what is. I tell myself daily that I'm more then screwed up in the head. lol I admit it fully. And I keep telling myself to get this person out of my mind! Myself doesn't listen to myself. I'm excited and fearful at the same time. I'm excited my life may change, and for the better. I am fearful that it is nothing and it is all actually just in my head and all my efforts failed. But that's life I guess.

Over all, I would be shocked beyond without a doubt if all my intuition were once again correct. I still doubt it from time to time because it doesn't seem real. How can a person know so much without knowing anything? I dream or visualize and I'm always accurate. I scare myself, and that is no lie.

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posted August 15, 2012 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
I have to chime in with a personal experience,I always win with Scorps. I find it so amusing. #Leo

You say cautious - watching their steps? That's a game too

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I understand why you are opposed to this - it put Scorps in bad light,but it is not the game that makes it bad,but the need to rename it,or to justify it. I am not talking about players when I speak of game playing.


If I follow your logic to the end, any interaction between two humans where they aren't speaking all of their raw emotions without any censoring, contemplation, or concern about the other person's reaction, is game playing, which is ridiculous. Everyone tests the water with new people, especially sensitive and intense people. They care more about getting hurt and they don't brush it off as easily. If you have baggage about Scorpios playing games with you, I hear ya. That's fine. We aren't all exactly the same, but I am trying to give some insight about what our motivations tend to be. It's not renaming anything. It's plain language and it's honest. If you've already decided we are playing games no matter what and that's that, I can't help you much then. If you've won your battles with Scorpios, it definitely hasn't left you unscathed in your attitude toward them.

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posted August 15, 2012 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capricorn Sun:
All I meant was I wanted to ask first if I could ask questions and start ranting. I was on another astrology website and they basically told me off and booted me off. lol



You can ask anything unless it is pornographic

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posted August 15, 2012 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can't freakin believe it. You took one sentence and completely figured me out. Wow.

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posted August 15, 2012 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so glad everyone can come to conclusions on my inquiry. I don't dislike Scorpios at all, I find them fascinating. Granted I'm running on fumes with barely any sleep, I'm still trying to cope and figure my conclusions.

Scorpios in general to me are mysterious. Basically all they do is leave out information which has the rest of us in questioning. They probably in return don't understand why we are baffled. They basically keep to themselves. You get a sexy scorp and our minds are racing. lol


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posted August 15, 2012 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bhanna1110     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I know is I get along with capricorns very well, Ive known so many capricorn genuises I would never underestimate them, I generally submit to capricorns as long as they play fair. Ive also known a cap sun scorp moon and we got along so very well, she got alot of stuff that the other capricorns didnt. Id say why play games with your own mind, just make an outcome happen and get it over with, as a capricorn you should be able to devise the perfect plan.

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posted August 15, 2012 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bhanna1110     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Btw, the reason I didnt respond before was because I had alot of my own questions to ask before i gave any advice, ty for updating with much more info.

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