posted August 18, 2012 02:22 PM            

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Quick question i have my nn in cancer how is that related to mercury in cancer?

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posted August 18, 2012 02:30 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
That's a simple one - you have a Cancer type of intelligence and that's exactly what you need to learn your lesson for current life...

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posted August 18, 2012 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Lol... Yes. Sounds simple enough.... But its proving to be quite the challenge and not in a good way. Its like the universe is taunting me... Even my mother is getting married again. I feel so far behind from friends and family. My numerology pinnacles dont look too promising either... Looks like iam destined to repeat this cycle over and over again.

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Was saying that "the answer to that question was simple for me" - as in "it wasn't a hard question"... the hard part is of course "applying it in practice"...

The thing is - we always get what we need to handle our North Node challenge... most people don't know about astrology - yet they make it "by following their instincts - their nature" - and for you that placement is very useful in dealing with your NN challenge.

By the way, in what house is your NN (that's also an important detail)?

My NN is in Gemini which places my SN in Sagittarius... but it's in house 12 - and not coincidentally, i have the Sun in house 12 and even Mars in conjunction with the Sun. Wile Mercury was placed in Taurus - so i can think deep about it... cause apparently i failed to learn this lesson before - NN being in retrograde..

...wile you have your Cancer at home in Moon (probably - dominant) and also have Mercury - to help you deal with it...

posted August 18, 2012 03:42 PM            

Are you a man? Makes no difference if you are - it's just a little irony of fate...

posted August 18, 2012 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Makes even more sense - House 3 being the house of communication (house of Gemini/Mercury), so you'll have to be a messenger for what you learn - and as i mentioned before "cancer" is the most feminine sign of the zodiac - which is truly the opposite of Capricorn which is the most manly sign of the zodiac... so basically - you have to get in touch with your feminine side at the deepest level - embrace the gracious and emotional side, indulge yourself to be fragile - things which are seen as weakness for man - cause "man have to be like that" but in reality that's strength for a woman...

Are you a man? Makes no difference if you are - it's just a little irony of fate...

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Lol... Ive had that advice in may/june.... Ugh, yes ive been a recluse in my little shell lately. Iam not sure i know how to be vulnerable, fragile again. The last few hard knocks have strengthen me to push forward alone and leave the rif raft behind so to speak. Ive worked hard to be self sufficient and independant. But looking back now... I guess it was at the expense of something... Iam harder now than i was 6/7 years ago. A lot tougher and combative i guess.

And iam a she

posted August 18, 2012 04:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
Lol... Ive had that advice in may/june.... Ugh, yes ive been a recluse in my little shell lately. Iam not sure i know how to be vulnerable, fragile again. The last few hard knocks have strengthen me to push forward alone and leave the rif raft behind so to speak. Ive worked hard to be self sufficient and independant. But looking back now... I guess it was at the expense of something... Iam harder now than i was 6/7 years ago. A lot tougher and combative i guess.

And iam a she

Thank you.

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posted August 18, 2012 04:44 PM            

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The last few hard knocks have strengthen me to push forward alone and leave the rif raft behind so to speak. Ive worked hard to be self sufficient and independant. But looking back now... I guess it was at the expense of something... Iam harder now than i was 6/7 years ago.

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...and should be more feminine than most woman - "an example (messenger) for what it means to be a woman" - so, be what you were meant to be, what you already are.

posted August 18, 2012 05:48 PM            

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Motherhood/family/planting roots have been plaguing me very heavily. This spring/summer transits have made me feel i lost something i didnt even have... Its kinda crazy. I attributed all these feelings with turning 30.

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That sounds like the effect of Saturn... should be related to a transit... i turned 29 this year - and it was truly the harshest experience i had so far - experiencing a "Saturn Return" ...the first Saturn Return and since you turned 30 you could be in a similar position:

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The first Saturn return (around age 28-30) marks the transition from the Phase of Youth to the Phase of Maturity. In my own life, this marked my splitting with a loving partner due to a disastrous love affair with an unstable woman who had a child by a previous husband, then moving a thousand miles away from my birthplace, family and friends – and eventually abandoning my career in music and the world of the arts and literature, with which I had been completely involved since my early teens. To cut a long story short, it took several years to recover from this, by which time my life had become utterly reoriented and I was working in the marketing business, which eventually led me to New Zealand, then England and my becoming part of the Institute for Advanced Health Research with our very own Energy Doctor, Stephen Kane.

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posted August 18, 2012 06:09 PM            

a few miscarriages, a disappointing inevitable relationship break up with a partner and it kinda makes you  a little resentful and overwhelmed by personal setbacks. 

Not all is bad tho. So far Work, family and friends are holding strong.

posted August 18, 2012 08:50 PM            

"And my approach to things is by cheering and encouraging people... Right? "

^^^Yes it would be, if you express your Chiron positively of course .

"As for brother 1 that's good. He is he youngest and a huge age gap. But him and my mom are very close."

^^^It doesn't mean that the relationship is bad with the mother, just that the Chiron in Cancer is sensitive to the mother, so if she is awful it REALLY hurts, if she is great it is REALLY good .

"brother 2 he doesn't talk much unless its to play devils advocate. You say yes he will automatically say no lol. "

^^^Interesting, does he have lots of aquarian/uranian energy?

posted August 19, 2012 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Junethird:
So when Saturn turns direct In October you think things will get better/easier?

a few miscarriages, a disappointing inevitable relationship break up with a partner and it kinda makes you  a little resentful and overwhelmed by personal setbacks. 

Not all is bad tho. So far Work, family and friends are holding strong.

And at the risk of sounding daft lol bouncing off your last comment that Iam supposed to be the person Iam meant to be... And that is by knowing one is stronger than their setbacks and no matter how hard life knocks you down it's no reason to harden or be jaded... 

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That can be a period of reflection...

As above author put it - "the first Saturn Return" is a transition from the Phase of Youth to the Phase of Maturity.

the intensity at which one is affected and in what way - differs from an individual to another based on his level of maturity and the way in which he needs to mature.. and it's as harsh as "it needs to be". This is a karmic lesson - a consequence resulted from our actions (either from this life or a past life) - it's meant to teach us something... yet we incline to see it as a punishment - we can even indulge the idea of karmic fatalism ("this is my fate, i'm meant to suffer")...

- this knowledge is not new to me - yet logic doesn't help all the time... especially when dealing with pain of the hearth or certain situations that seem to defy logic and our purpose in life - when i made this topic: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/215016.html - i couldn't access that knowledge - cause I was dealing with "that type of pain" and was forced to deal with it alone... which is "like dealing with an addiction" and even tho - "smoke kills" - is labelled on every cigar pack... even a doctor that deals with cancer - might not help it sometimes...

Some were forced to deal with Saturn since birth - like those that have an affected Saturn placed in House 1 (just an example - since there are all kinds of placements that can force a person to grow-up faster) and for them... a Saturn Return might be just a reminder that it's time for a change... i have a friend with that placement - he's 24 dealing with cancer, which didn't put him down - was like a wake call for him, it helped him to be more true to himself, more true to his nature - and from the way he talks now he seems to be on the right path...

Sometimes, it makes me wonder - what did some people do in another life to deserve their fate (cause for some it doesn't seem to be related to their current life)... as it's the case with this "positive" girl from Sagittarius: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShsgTz6OaaM or this "brave" girl from Leo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1slESfh_3M0 - just 2 example out of so many others, a harsh fate but not without a purpose... cause some people need more extreme examples to get in touch with their empathic nature... wile others don't have (for example -those with a mental disorder like psychopathy) - maybe they've been to emotional in a previous life.

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As a guru put it in a interview: "current society values are affecting femininity in a very negative way" - you can check his speech on this subject starting from minute 1:15:00 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZR0SuUwdbc - both man and woman have a feminine and a masculine side... if we didn't - we couldn't understand each-other... but for males masculinity should be prominent and for woman femininity, cause that's the way nature made us... yet, even from ancient times women used to envy the power of man and aspired to be like us, so they'll be able to handle situations like a man - which might be ok in terms of human rights, but many forget what it truly means to be a woman... among the woman of today - it seems to be a pride to be able to handle things like a man...and "generally speaking" that's very wrong... something which i learned from personal experience - since my mother is the perfect example for that type of woman... she worked in a factory doing a manly job and in time she became more like one - still showing a feminine side in terms of clothing and esthetic interests - but mostly she was and still is kinda masculine... and "that was my example for a woman" - yet, with Ascendent in Cancer - i can understand femininity but there are limits - cause obviously i can't understand it from a physical point of view - and that's something i respect about woman... since i'm aware that it's not easy being one... and you girls should feel that pride as well... it's part of your femininity. ^^