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crissyx89
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posted August 20, 2012 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That is true and that's when it becomes suffocating and intolerable.


Yes so true!
I'm starting to wonder if moon/pluto is an aspect for on and off again relationships.Because I have this with my ex boyfriend I love him so much.Then other times I can't stand him.

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posted August 20, 2012 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by crissyx89:
Yes so true!
I'm starting to wonder if moon/pluto is an aspect for on and off again relationships.Because I have this with my ex boyfriend I love him so much.Then other times I can't stand him.



Sometimes that's just young love and being in it blindly. Trust me I would know. Love isn't at all distasteful, so if it has those effects, just pack your bags and hit paradise where much better fish are waiting on shore.

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posted August 20, 2012 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Capricorn Sun:

I just feel like sometimes I'm holding on to the past with him.Its been 7 long years on and off and its just so hard letting go.My friends and family hate us together.I've just started communicating with him again,I hope I'm strong enough too resist moon\pluto and keep him as friend only.

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posted August 20, 2012 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by crissyx89:
Yes so true!
I'm starting to wonder if moon/pluto is an aspect for on and off again relationships.Because I have this with my ex boyfriend I love him so much.Then other times I can't stand him.


That's true. Feelings its not easy. Its sometimes easy to try leave the person but the feelings will not forget so.... Moon-pluto seems to me be like an addict which go deeply into our soul. Atleast the DW.

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posted August 20, 2012 02:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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That's true. Feelings its not easy. Its sometimes easy to try leave the person but the feelings will not forget so.... Moon-pluto seems to me be like an addict which go deeply into our soul. Atleast the DW.

Yes its like at first you feel free liberated happy its finally over.Then you start missing them feelings comeback you dont understand why.Your right Moon-pluto is like an addict.Makes me think of that Pink song "Sober"

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posted August 20, 2012 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beyond Astrology here girls. It is simple basic psychology. You go back because you yearn for the good parts that you had and miss. You think of those and can't let them go, therefore you calculate that into it must be "meant to be" or some odd thing along those lines. I have been in those situations and they never win or go anywhere. All you end up doing is dragging yourself down more each time you try. Face reality so to say and move on with your life and find someone who truly does love you and won't be hot and cold, on and off consistently. It gets really old in a hurry. Soon you start wondering after being away from it for awhile, what the hell you ever saw in the jack rabbit. lol

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posted August 20, 2012 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ You're absolutely right. As time passes, ppl generally remember the good times more so over the bad.

I think what they mean is that not only do their significant others go hot and cold, but so do they. I know I have felt that relief of it being over. Like you can breathe. Though if im honest with myself, I know its not truly over, and I'm just really angry and blocking my emotions with anger. Once the anger subsides though, the deep longing starts. And as soon as you contact the person, or they contact you, and you're both so happy to hear from one another, the roller-coaster starts up once more.

I wonder, how long can you guys go without contact? We have once gone almost 3 months.

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posted August 20, 2012 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusdeIndia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, Trigger can you post your individual charts with some asteroids - Valentine,Eros,Psyche,Karma etc. It would help a lot because a lot of your feelings are typically plutonian but extend beyond mere physical chemistry that usually is the case with only having a pluto aspect .

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posted August 20, 2012 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ Capricorn Sun
Well said so true.

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Originally Lava Flower:
^ You're absolutely right. As time passes, ppl generally remember the good times more so over the bad.

I think what they mean is that not only do their significant others go hot and cold, but so do they. I know I have felt that relief of it being over. Like you can breathe. Though if im honest with myself, I know its not truly over, and I'm just really angry and blocking my emotions with anger. Once the anger subsides though, the deep longing starts. And as soon as you contact the person, or they contact you, and you're both so happy to hear from one another, the roller-coaster starts up once more.

I wonder, how long can you guys go without contact? We have once gone almost 3 months.


You summed up how I feel.One of the reasons Ive gone cold is sometimes,Ive felt that my ex depends on me alot emotionally.And I've gone cold on him because of this.Then when I go cold he gets furious accusing me of letting him down.I get angry because I feel Ive given him so much of me and he stil wants more.

The longest has been 6 months hard staying away.

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posted August 20, 2012 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@ Capricorn Sun
Well said so true.

You summed up how I feel.One of the reasons Ive gone cold is sometimes,Ive felt that my ex depends on me alot emotionally.And I've gone cold on him because of this.Then when I go cold he gets furious accusing me of letting him down.I get angry because I feel Ive given him so much of me and he stil wants more.

The longest has been 6 months hard staying away.


Woah, your post just made me realize something. I wrote about wanting to give of myself, and its true, but he always wants more. And so do I. Wanting more time, energy, love, sex, affection, reassurance.. And using the perceived lack of those things as leverage against the person. But instead of coming out and straight saying so, *we* tend to take those things away, because in that moment you're powerful and the other is exposed and vulnerable I think I do it more than him (perhaps because my sun is conjunct the composite moon that's in the 1st opposite Pluto) but it gets so overwhelming and intense. Sometimes I give affection because i'm scared of facing him, or maybe im scared of facing myself. I'm actually scared of being in this relationship, not of him, of me. Things have finally, after 8 years, are falling into a place where we have a chance to be together, and I am already looking for ways to prolong time away from him. Excuses from things he did in the past, to his astrological chart, to every incompatibility I can think of. I swear i'm not crazy but there are things I do with him that do not make sense at all. I feel safer loving him from afar even though it hurts.

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posted August 20, 2012 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Woah, your post just made me realize something. I wrote about wanting to give of myself, and its true, but he always wants more. And so do I. Wanting more time, energy, love, sex, affection, reassurance.. And using the perceived lack of those things as leverage against the person. But instead of coming out and straight saying so, *we* tend to take those things away, because in that moment you're powerful and the other is exposed and vulnerable I think I do it more than him (perhaps because my sun is conjunct the composite moon that's in the 1st opposite Pluto) but it gets so overwhelming and intense. Sometimes I give affection because i'm scared of facing him, or maybe im scared of facing myself. I'm actually scared of being in this relationship, not of him, of me. Things have finally, after 8 years, are falling into a place where we have a chance to be together, and I am already looking for ways to prolong time away from him. Excuses from things he did in the past, to his astrological chart, to every incompatibility I can think of. I swear i'm not crazy but there are things I do with him that do not make sense at all. I feel safer loving him from afar even though it hurts.

Yes yes you've taken the words out my mouth.Sometimes it feels like its never enough,the more of yourself you give he still not satisfied.I like my alone time sometimes.When I want time too myself he asks if Im ok.Its like he finds it odd that I want time for myself.Then the guilt trips start I needed you I feel like your avoiding me.Then the emotional manipulation comes in effect accusing each other of not giving enough love,time ect.Your relationship sounds so simular to mine.

Ive found myself saying we spend too much time together, Im so glad he spending time with other people I get a break.Then for some reason I find myself getting jealous,then I end up wanting more time.It doesnt make sense its like when it comes to him I do irrational things.I wonder if I even know what I want.

Yes its much easier loving him from a distance because when he is up close your vulnerable.

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posted August 20, 2012 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Yes yes you've taken the words out my mouth.Sometimes it feels like its never enough,the more of yourself you give he still not satisfied.I like my alone time sometimes.When I want time too myself he asks if Im ok.Its like he finds it odd that I want time for myself.Then the guilt trips start I needed you I feel like your avoiding me.Then the emotional manipulation comes in effect accusing each other of not giving enough love,time ect.Your relationship sounds so simular to mine.

Ive found myself saying we spend too much time together, Im so glad he spending time with other people I get a break.Then for some reason I find myself getting jealous,then I end up wanting more time.It doesnt make sense its like when it comes to him I do irrational things.I wonder if I even know what I want.

Yes its much easier loving him from a distance because when he is up close your vulnerable.


I relate to everything you have said. I also feel the pressure break when he is not around but at the same time I get jealous as well. We are also really needy with each other, him more so than me, or maybe I just see him reflect the behavior and vulnerability that I fear so much. I also feel him thinking about me. I ask him to stop sometimes when i'm working and trying to focus on something. Its really weird, but as soon as I let go, even a little emotionally, he feels it and comes on much stronger. He notices when I go a little longer than usual without thinking of him, even though he is always on the back of my mind. I think of him so much more than is healthy. I notice the times I do not think of him more than the times I do.

Strange too, because I have BIGG issues with intimacy. My moon is in the 12th opposite Saturn and for me to have my feelings flying all over the place.. Its not me. I find it easy to go through the motions, but I am involved with my whole heart with him. Or at least as much of my heart as im aware of so far. I also have Venus quindicile Uranus and I value my independence much more than other women.

Him, well he is a double Aqua and his chart ruler Uranus is conujunct Venus in Sagittarius exact. We have been best friends for years, and I know his attachment to me is REALLY unusual for him. He has always jumped from one girl to the next, doing the dumping I use his past against him a lot, I need to grow up.

Trigger, I also hope you can post the synastry and the composite charts. Please include the asteroids mentioned by a previous poster above, and also include Juno, Ceres, and Amor

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posted August 20, 2012 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rose_s     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my experience as a pluto here;

Since the first time we met, I couldn't stop thinking about him. I didn't like it because I'm kinda uranian person (I've got venus opposite uranus natally). It was too intense for me. I wanted to run away but I couldn't.

But then i start to open up and be true to myself and it's not too bad after all, but still I can't get him out of my head!

We've just admitted that we like each other a lot and found one another to be highly addictive.;p

This may lead to no where but the whole intense experience is not too bad after all.

Synastry: Moon conjunct Pluto in Libra
His moon falls into my 12th house.
My moon falls into his 8th house.

Composite: Sun opposite Moon
Sun opposite Venus

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posted August 20, 2012 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I forget about people as soon as they have done something unforgivable, then the way the stupid world goes with its ungodly fate, posts it on the internet somewhere slandering me, and I'm forced to think about the creep again!

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posted August 20, 2012 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for redshift     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Nope red, not me srry... But the girl who I cant seem to get off my mind is a pisces lol sychronicity maybe.


WHOA!! You have a Pisces woman, being the assertive one??? Do you know how unheard of that is?!! She must ADORE you. How the heck did you manage to get a Pisces to pursue you??

Oh I know, by having her Pluto conjunct your moon! As the Pluto person, she probably feels a strong drive to work something out with you. You probably stir up unconscious issues in her that she feels she can heal with you. Something about your emotional communication with her probably feels very important and necessary on a profound level.

You probably feel that she might be plunging into depths in you that are both thrilling and frightening. The sexual attraction will be powerful both ways.

She will need to learn to appreciate you without projecting too much onto you and you will probably have to learn to open up and push your emotional boundaries while still maintaining your own sense of control.

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posted August 20, 2012 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crissyx89     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I relate to everything you have said. I also feel the pressure break when he is not around but at the same time I get jealous as well. We are also really needy with each other, him more so than me, or maybe I just see him reflect the behavior and vulnerability that I fear so much. I also feel him thinking about me. I ask him to stop sometimes when i'm working and trying to focus on something. Its really weird, but as soon as I let go, even a little emotionally, he feels it and comes on much stronger. He notices when I go a little longer than usual without thinking of him, even though he is always on the back of my mind. I think of him so much more than is healthy. I notice the times I do not think of him more than the times I do.

Strange too, because I have BIGG issues with intimacy. My moon is in the 12th opposite Saturn and for me to have my feelings flying all over the place.. Its not me. I find it easy to go through the motions, but I am involved with my whole heart with him. Or at least as much of my heart as im aware of so far. I also have Venus quindicile Uranus and I value my independence much more than other women.

Him, well he is a double Aqua and his chart ruler Uranus is conujunct Venus in Sagittarius exact. We have been best friends for years, and I know his attachment to me is REALLY unusual for him. He has always jumped from one girl to the next, doing the dumping I use his past against him a lot, I need to grow up.

Trigger, I also hope you can post the synastry and the composite charts. Please include the asteroids mentioned by a previous poster above, and also include Juno, Ceres, and Amor


Finally someone that understands my relationship with my ex!!Most people around us including our families think the relationship is obsessive and volatile.Yes me and him our needy with each other aswell.I think he depends on me more than I do him.Weird that your guy venus/uranus natal aspect,my ex's does too.His venus squares his uranus.He also has an aqua moon only 1 water planet and that's pluto in scorpio.So this amount of emotion and vulnerability is hard for him to handle sometimes.But its odd because I'm a cancer sun mercury in cancer and sometimes I feel I can't handle it.I wonder if it has something to do with my virgo moon.

My ex is the same way when he even thinks I'm acting distant he freaks out.He comes on stronger asks me why I'm acting weird.He gets really emotional and aggressive its creepy sometimes.We've just started talking again in july as friends only.But I already feel myself falling for him again.My love for him has never left,I know if I commit again its gonna be really deep.Not sure if I'm ready for him like that now.

Just take things slow with him so you wont feel too overwhelmed.Baby steps I don't think some people understand how heavy these moon-pluto relationships are.So glad to finally chat with someone that gets this whole thing.

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posted August 20, 2012 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I'm really starting to hate moon/pluto..

No matter what u just can't get away from it...

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posted August 20, 2012 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No matter what I do.. I can't get away from this... I was feeling so much better... Damn....

Grhhhh
I'm so frustrated.... I just can't go on with this.anymore

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posted August 21, 2012 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish it was that easy.. I see him everyday.. Plus he's not going to just let go..
Not that it's easy for me either.

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posted August 21, 2012 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capricorn Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yup I hate pluto moons too, being obsessed is creepy and so not me!

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posted August 21, 2012 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brightwhites     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do both people feel it? I have this with a friend (I am moon, he is pluto), and oh boy... I have a huge crush on him. But he has a girlfriend. And I have a boyfriend. And he's probably not worth it anyway. :/

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I had moon trine pluto with a long term ex from years ago and a more recent moon conj pluto with another ex, it may be a coincidence but these were the two most important, painful, transforming, love/hate emotions Ive ever experienced. with the first long term ex, we couldnt stay away from one another and for 6 years after he couldnt stay away from me and I know to this day he will always hold something for me... most recent ex was much more instense as he had moon conj pluto natally and i have ven opp natal so we both understood the depths of our feelings and emotions, there was a better harmony, maybe just connection and in many ways i believe theres unfinished business but im too angry.... that was one intense, intimate, passionate and chemistry was hot both in and outof the bedroom

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Wow, sounds intense! Do you think she is feeling the same energy?

I experienced this once, and boy was that enough. The most intense love ever, his Moon in exact conj to my pluto in libra. To make it more intense, he has moon conj pluto in natal and is a scorpio rising, so my pluto fell in his 12th house.

we met in middle school, I found him fascinating but wasnt really into boys yet. He was mesmerizede by me, which I didnt discover until he disclosed later. We saw each other in high school, never dated as I had a boyfriend & he switched schools sophmore yr.

Our paths crossed again as young adults, he got my number from a friend. I was getting out of a disasterous relationship, he became my closest friend. I fell in love fast, just by our conversations wo having seen each other in yrs.

Long story short, after a year we broke up due to bad timing & misundetstandings. He wanted marriage & thought Id never settle down. I loved him as have never loved anyone, but wasnt ready to marry so soon after drama of ending my relationship. We said some hurtful things to each other, he ended up hooking up w an ex gf and married her months later ):

It was so painful, very painful. It took me years to get over it, had written tons of poems and journals over this tortured love for my Uranian. To this day his spouse detests me & fights w him over our past and he looks away whenever our paths cross.

Finally a couple years ago, made peace that will probably never quite love amyone that way again, and this is ok. Now have accepted he was lost to me long ago, and the persons we have both become are not the two younglins that loved each other so.

Good luck with this girl, I hope it works out as when it does, its the most beautiful feeling ever.

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posted August 22, 2012 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Trigger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yea I think she feels it too because on monday I went up to her desk to get some hand sanitizer. I'm notorious for using tons everyday. My coworkers always give me crap about how my hands will get wrinkled lol. My obsession with hand sanitizer is really just an excuse to stand next to her for a few moments lol while I rub it in, and it feels cooling on my skin. An added bonus! Lol

Anyway the bottle was empty. So she refilled it then squirted some in my hands and said, " have you been fantasizing all weekend long about me squirting this in your hands" much playful banter ensued naturally

I think that was her way of saying that she can't get me off her mind.... Idk what do you guys think?

Good god this girl has me wrapped around her finger.

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posted August 22, 2012 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixFire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds very promising

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