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Faith
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posted August 25, 2012 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister has been diagnosed, at separate times, with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. Not sure of the difference between the two illnesses, but she is definitely "out there."

She has Cancer sun/moon/Mercury sextile Virgo Pluto/Uranus.

I think her problem might be, amongst other things, unaspected Jupiter in Leo. That's the delusions of grandeur part, along with Neptune in Scorpio (out of orb, square to Jupiter) making her Cancer stellium all the more "special."

Saturn in Aries and Mars in Libra square the Cancer stellium...and maybe that's why she crashes.

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posted August 25, 2012 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have moon opposition pluto, i havent been diagnosed but sometimes i wonder.

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posted August 25, 2012 11:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i have moon opposition pluto, i havent been diagnosed but sometimes i wonder.


WEll, I would think one would struggle with moods with this opposition. Do you think that would be fair to say?

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posted August 25, 2012 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith
Her sextile would be positive, as a sextile is a positive flow of energy. What do you think?

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posted August 25, 2012 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Faith
What does her moon do, exactly, with orbs?

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posted August 25, 2012 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I was trained in Oriental medicine which does NOT label, as does Western medicine. Symptoms are seen as an imbalance of the body and /or mind. Also, they are an inextricable whole, not a mind/body duality.


I was reading an article on how this chinese scientist who did not believe in acupuncture because it talked about the flow of "energy" which is not scientific at all, was testing how the eyes' behaviors are shown by different parts of the brain using an MRI scanner. Then he decided to use the MRI in the same way but by needling several acupuncture points in the sole of the foot. The points that were supposed to heal energy dealing with "eye illnesses" did the exact same thing in the MRI scanner as did shining a light in the person's eyes. So basically acupuncture is not about flow of energy, but about how the points connect to vital organs and cause neoruchemicals to be released (true that there is electric charge and it does have a "flow" haha, but specifically to call it energy flow is not descriptive or scientific at all, because what is "energy," really? Oh and he also found the yin and yang principlies. There was one group of points called yang which raised body temperature, made the person happy..i dont remember what else, and there were other points which acupuncture called yin which lowered body temperature and dealt with introspection and made the person have lower vitality.

You are very wise, Ami. My grandmother has paranoid schizophrenia but she has moon conjunct pluto...which makes sense, since moon is insecurity and defensiveness and pluto is obsession. I think your theory totally makes sense about the opposition and its see saw effect

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posted August 25, 2012 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ami,

My sister is very gifted with music and mathematics, she could play complicated piano pieces from a young age and can do extremely complicated math problems easily. I think that's the gift of her positive aspects.

I don't know her birth time, but the moon was in Cancer the whole day that she was born. We talked about this before on the sun-Mercury cazimi thread, I think. (?)

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posted August 25, 2012 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where/how were you trained in oriental medicine, Ami? And where can I learn. As a (future) psychologist, I think it would give me a lot of understanding about my (future) patients. lol

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posted August 25, 2012 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I was reading an article on how this chinese scientist who did not believe in acupuncture because it talked about the flow of "energy" which is not scientific at all, was testing how the eyes' behaviors are shown by different parts of the brain using an MRI scanner. Then he decided to use the MRI in the same way but by needling several acupuncture points in the sole of the foot. The points that were supposed to heal energy dealing with "eye illnesses" did the exact same thing in the MRI scanner as did shining a light in the person's eyes. So basically acupuncture is not about flow of energy, but about how the points connect to vital organs and cause neoruchemicals to be released (true that there is electric charge and it does have a "flow" haha, but specifically to call it energy flow is not descriptive or scientific at all, because what is "energy," really? Oh and he also found the yin and yang principlies. There was one group of points called yang which raised body temperature, made the person happy..i dont remember what else, and there were other points which acupuncture called yin which lowered body temperature and dealt with introspection and made the person have lower vitality.

You are very wise, Ami. My grandmother has paranoid schizophrenia but she has moon conjunct pluto...which makes sense, since moon is insecurity and defensiveness and pluto is obsession. I think your theory totally makes sense about the opposition and its see saw effect


Thank you so much for the kind words. They go a long way in my heart

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posted August 25, 2012 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Where/how were you trained in oriental medicine, Ami? And where can I learn. As a (future) psychologist, I think it would give me a lot of understanding about my (future) patients. lol



I took a course to prepare for the State exam to become an acupuncture physician but they cancelled the exam, that year, and I never took it.
However, Google schools for acupuncture. I have a Masters degree in Psych.
My whole background has come together in what I do now, in a totally miraculous way. I just followed my passions, but I never thought it would lead to a career that combines everything and that I totally love. God is so good to me

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posted August 25, 2012 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As I do charts, I can't help finding patterns. The one that I trust the most is Dejanira conjunct the moon, in a female, is usually sexual abuse and often BPD.

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posted August 25, 2012 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

WEll, I would think one would struggle with moods with this opposition. Do you think that would be fair to say?


yes my moods do change very quickly,but they stay pretty consistent, i will have periods of hapiness and feeling alive, and other times where i feel like im just going through the motions.

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posted August 25, 2012 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
I have BPD tendencies. I do not have this aspect, but I have Dejanira conjunct Uranus, which trines my Moon and MC.

What relation do you see to having Dej-Moon and having BPD? I'm really curious now.



Well, BPD tendencies and BPD would be very different. Lets start here. What does your Child Asteroid do? I find BPD tendencies when the Child asteroid conjuncts Dejanira.

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posted August 25, 2012 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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**Disclaimer**---This is my work with charts. I am not saying I have definitive theories on anything. We are simply having an astrological discussion among adults and peers. Thank you.

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posted August 25, 2012 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know 2 people who are bipolar and may have borderline personality.

One has Moon in Virgo in the 12th, trine Sun and Neptune. But it is also conjunct Nessus. No aspect to Pluto.

The other has Moon in Aquarius in the 10th EXACT square Pluto.

So Pluto may be a factor, but it isn't the only one. My best friend has Moon in Scorpio conjunct Pluto and she has no mental health problems and does not suffer from depression.

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posted August 25, 2012 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
I know 2 people who are bipolar and may have borderline personality.

One has Moon in Virgo in the 12th, trine Sun and Neptune. But it is also conjunct Nessus. No aspect to Pluto.

The other has Moon in Aquarius in the 10th EXACT square Pluto.

So Pluto may be a factor, but it isn't the only one.



Hmmm Nessus makes sense to fit in there somewhere, as it is so powerful, so strong and hard to manage. The sensitive moon does not like harsh asteroids like Dejanira and Nessus conjunct it.

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posted August 25, 2012 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
...well i have this:

Moon Opposition Saturn
Moon Opposition Pluto

...but apparently, being a little bipolar is also a Gemini thing - it says so in the technical manual...


Moody is one thing and Bipolar is another, in that it is such an exaggeration of general moodiness, one could say.

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posted August 25, 2012 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
[b]Where/how were you trained in oriental medicine, Ami? And where can I learn. As a (future) psychologist, I think it would give me a lot of understanding about my (future) patients. lol



I took a course to prepare for the State exam to become an acupuncture physician but they cancelled the exam, that year, and I never took it.
However, Google schools for acupuncture. I have a Masters degree in Psych.
My whole background has come together in what I do now, in a totally miraculous way. I just followed my passions, but I never thought it would lead to a career that combines everything and that I totally love. God is so good to me

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lol steve jobs' speech at stanford said the same thing..do what u love even if it seems random, even if it means taking random classes here and there, it all comes together in the end
http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Americas/Stay-Hungry-Stay-Foolish-Steve-Jobs-speech-at-Stanford/Article1-754153.aspx

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posted August 25, 2012 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I have enjoyed every comment of yours that I've read.

I have a t-square with Mercury, Uranus, and Saturn.

Mercury square Uranus, according to some astrologers, gives high intelligence, like the positive aspects, but with tendencies toward negativity. As usual, the whole chart has to be considered; I think my tight sextile of Mercury to Venus lightens my mind a bit.


Thank you Faith!

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posted August 25, 2012 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

WEll, I would think one would struggle with moods with this opposition. Do you think that would be fair to say?


Yes, but that aspect alone might be less intense - yet if it's paired with other similar aspects - especially in time of transits, one can not deny the intensity of such moods... i've been in this position quite recently:.. having Moon Opposition Saturn paired with that aspect - and along this year (more exactly - from the beginning of November 2011 until mid August 2012) - well, this was probably the most intense emotional trial i've experience so far - can't say if it was positive or negative - but the emotional pain was extreme (...) so why not negative (one might ask)? - cause i learned something important from this experience and it open new doors - which makes it feel like it was worth it... to what extent - only time can tell...

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posted August 25, 2012 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES RAS
I studied so many diverse things and felt like I would never, ever have a career I love. I am the most surprised of all that it happened lol

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posted August 25, 2012 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Yes, but that aspect alone might be less intense - yet if it's paired with other similar aspects - especially in time of transits, one can not deny the intensity of such moods... i've been in this position quite recently:.. having Moon Opposition Saturn paired with that aspect - and along this year (more exactly - from the beginning of November 2011 until mid August 2012) - well, this was probably the most intense emotional trial i've experience so far - can't say if it was positive or negative - but the emotional pain was extreme (...) so why not negative (one might ask)? - cause i learned something important from this experience and it open new doors - which makes it feel like it was worth it... to what extent - only time can tell...


I hear you!

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