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posted August 23, 2012 06:19 AM            

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Not going to be replying anymore to pointless arguments that deviate from the original topic. thanks.

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posted August 23, 2012 06:22 AM            

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Yes,PrettyScorp,go to facebook

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LOL...well...a friend is a friend is a friend. Flaws and good points and all, if you know what I mean.

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posted August 23, 2012 06:30 AM            

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I never went by the assumption that they're inherently superficial (going by your past thread) and that one needs to get beyond that somehow in order to understand them, to get under that and see that there is emotion there. And then you add "very much their fault" to the mix, when it's your perception that makes it so, since now you say that's how they seem to you. I think of superficiality when I think of Venus, in essence. Not to one sign or one element. I bring that up since that perception of yours seems to be one of the keys to your argument.

As you're one for quotes, from The Rulership Book by Rex E. Bills,
"Superficiality: (Mercury Moon Neptune)" p.139
Parentheses standing for not a chief rulership, but secondary, or of mixed theories from various astrologers as to the reasons why.

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posted August 23, 2012 06:34 AM            

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^Wowie that's a lot of text! Can you summarise or give me the good parts?

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Haha too much for me to read too

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posted August 23, 2012 06:40 AM            

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Originally posted by peachbeigeblue:
Haha too much for me to read too

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bunch of hobnockers

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posted August 23, 2012 06:44 AM            

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Originally posted by RedScorp:
I think outbursts come from lack of or afflicted water, as you need water to understand and really do something with emotions. In that example, it said the lady was a water void (or low on water, I really forget) and that's what clicked with me. A lot of air would make someone really rational, detached, avoidant, and high-strung...I don't see a person with a lot of air being prone to outbursts.

Similarly for earth. Earth and air with issues tend to not solve it as earth let's it sit there while air tries to move away from it. For outbursts, you would need something happening to fire (immediate) or water (backed up).

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You know what? I have Sun, Mercury, Venus, Mars, NN in Air, Moon, Jupiter in Fire, ASC, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus in Earth, only Pluto in Water, yet i'm VERY emotional and you for sure can expect emotional outbursts from me. despite all my Air and Earth, i'm very UNrational, so i guess, we cannot conclude these sorts of things, just based on elemental placements.

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posted August 23, 2012 06:49 AM            

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*fixes spectacles, evil sneer*

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posted August 23, 2012 07:05 AM            

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Originally posted by 7thGuardian:
Depends, if an individual is full of air signs - "all concepts - no substance"... then yes... emotions might even be absent.

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Absolutely, we're all concepts and no substance. We're the "brains" and idea-suppliers. Fleshing stuff out isn't in our job detail, and we can't be expected to do all the work for you.

...As far as the actual subject of the thread goes, it always surprises me when people think air-heavy people have no emotions. Seriously - when have you ever encountered someone who doesn't feel? We feel just as much as the next person, probably more so. The difference is in how we handle it; while other elements might hit you over the head with how they feel and act out and emote all the time, we choose to keep the bulk of what we feel to ourselves and handle it by trying to stand back from it and work through it on our own in a logical way. Which ultimately, I think is a more decent way to handle it than trying to make your own issues, everyone else's problem too.

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posted August 23, 2012 07:27 AM            

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So...?

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Just thinking out loud.

Here's an interesting site, which I'm guessing you've seen already:
http://www.alwaysastrology.com/mercury-in-gemini.html

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posted August 23, 2012 07:52 AM            

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It seems like air signs want to be fair and rational and tell themselves that they are, and in trying to be so fair to others they squash their ego and deeper feelings. But then those feelings come out in a nasty unexpected way later. It almost seems like it comes out of nowhere. Anybody have a similar experience with air signs?

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Let's start by looking at the three air signs (Gemini/Libra/Aquarius) their rulers (Mercury/Venus/Saturn & Uranus), what houses the air signs take up in a person's chart, and what aspects any planets in those signs or aspects the rulers make.

My chart is mostly air and water, only 1 fire (Neptune in Sag) and 1 earth (Mars in Cap).

The fairness tends to be under the domain of Libra (balance), and RAS, don't you have Libra rising? That could be why you notice that. Is your Gemini on the 8th house cusp, since you mentioned having Jupiter in Gemini in the 8th? Where's your Aquarius, then? $th or 5th? Mind posting your chart?

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posted August 23, 2012 08:46 AM            

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My last post quoted the topic, so I'll assume you're not on atm. You'd mentioned you weren't going to respond to anything not covering the original topic.

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posted August 23, 2012 08:57 AM            

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Seriously - when have you ever encountered someone who doesn't feel?

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Personalty, I know two such people and statistically speaking - they cover more than 1% of world population (in terms of psychology they're known as psychopaths). Can't say for sure if there's a connection - probably not... and i haven't dabbled with this subject in practice (a chart dominated by air signs) - don't remember seeing such chart - so it's still a blank spot for me... in a way - i'm curious on - what kinda of people are those with such placements in their chart.

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posted August 23, 2012 08:57 AM            

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My chart is mostly aqua, libra and the fire placement sag. I don't hold my emotions back when I feel it...it comes out. I rather not have stress and pain or someone thinking everything honky dory simply because I didn't say something either good or bad. Perfect example my boss was going around to everyone saying he senses I don't like him....another supervisor found it funny he felt that way and brung the idea to me. My response...."I don't like him and I never will so yes he's right." See now he never has to wonder.

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posted August 23, 2012 09:03 AM            

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It seems like air signs want to be fair and rational and tell themselves that they are, and in trying to be so fair to others they squash their ego and deeper feelings. But then those feelings come out in a nasty unexpected way later. It almost seems like it comes out of nowhere. Anybody have a similar experience with air signs?

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Nope, I don't do that even with my chart ruler in Scorpio. My emotions are well-controlled unless someone I love dies, in which case I'm a blubbering mess. However, in extreme situations like these, I show my emotions immediately and don't suppress them.

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posted August 23, 2012 09:40 AM            

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posted August 23, 2012 12:59 PM            

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I don't blow up at people. It comes out when it needs to come out but it's never super dramatic. I have a Libra Moon.

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Of course, someone with mostly air will be the most extreme, and have more emotional outbursts like that than someone with other elements

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I'm mostly air and fire, no emotional outbursts. I even have Moon opposite Jupiter. I keep that **** to myself. I have never acted on an emotional impulse such as slashing someone's tire. That's absurd.

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posted August 23, 2012 01:09 PM            

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I have never acted on an emotional impulse such as slashing someone's tire. That's absurd.

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Ah, amowls, an excellent example of air! Cool, calm, and reasonable. Yeah that is absurd, the lady has ISSUES which cannot be attributed to too much or too little of one element.

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posted August 23, 2012 01:56 PM            

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RAS, do not use that word or any other that is name-calling.

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posted August 23, 2012 04:07 PM            

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RAS, do not use that word or any other that is name-calling.

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What word. Hobnockers? I was kidding. That's some nonsense phrase they made up on iCarly, a kid's tv show. LOL. "bunch of hobnockers" it's not even a real word. I was saying that to peach and RedScorp in a joking way because they didnt want to read the entire thing. They are my friends both on the forum and outside the forum and they know it's a joke.

LOL if hobnockers is name-calling than Sass-nake should be considered name-calling, too.

and RedScorp saying "fixes spectacles, evil sneer" is not in reply to me saying "bunch of hobnockers" lol...it's an inside joke we have.
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posted August 23, 2012 04:25 PM            

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Lol that's okay 12thouser. And feel free to think out loud all you want . Thank you for offering your input.

I actually dont have aquarius ruling any house, though. It's intercepted. Here are my house rulers:

1st-libra
2nd-scorpio
3rd-sagittarius
4th-capricorn
5th-pisces
6th-aries
7th-aries
8th-gemini
9th-gemini
10th-cancer
11th-virgo
12th-libra

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posted August 23, 2012 04:29 PM            

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I am completely guilty of this... I have a gemini moon in the 1st house. I repress my emotions, overanalyze and try to rationalize them then when I am unable to reconcile them in some way, I am like a volcano. Needless to say, being this way creates a lot of anxiety. Maybe it's my moon trine pluto and my moon sextile saturn that gives me the push pull affect. I try to so hard to keep my mouth shut because most of the time, it's unfounded fear...but something will set me off and it all comes out. Usually the other person is dumbfounded because it's overwhelming to them.

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posted August 23, 2012 04:46 PM            

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Hmm..I dont mean huge outbursts. That woman slashing somebody's tires is an extreme example which i think astro.com was trying to use to show the EXTREME of the air element, with a water void, on top of it. The extreme of the shadow side of water. I was more talking about ...pretending like you dont have emotions and acting all okay and understanding of everything, and then realizing that you really were jealous, or that whatever it is, it actually does bother you.

Not saying you go on crazy rampages where you shave your hair off , but subtle things, like just realizing you really were jealous and voicing it in a bitter or sarcastic way. etc.

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posted August 23, 2012 05:17 PM            

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Yeah RAS...I definitely do that. Going through that now, it's making me feel like a paranoid schizophrenic feeling pretend slights. I am known to have one hell of a temper though. I try to be good most times but when I see BS, I try to let the feeling pass but something will set me off.

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posted August 23, 2012 05:22 PM            

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lol i see

its alright, ur not a paranoid schizophrenic ahaha

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posted August 23, 2012 05:23 PM            

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its funny, but i didnt really mean that air signs have tempers either. just a delayed emotional reaction bc they rationalized their emotions at first. its not necessarily expressed in a tantrumy way or anything. it could be as simple as a sarcastic comment.

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