posted August 23, 2012 07:24 PM            

I do feel that it's a challenge but I think that's part of what a NN does. It shows us where our challenges/life goals are. My NN is in Scorpio so I will look to Pluto for more information on my NN. Also, my NN is in the 6th house and is ruled by Mercury so I will look to both Mercury and what it does in my chart as well as 6th house matters to see wherein my challenges lie.

So transits to my NN from those planets might be really important. As well, since my MC is squared by my NN, the example I gave above is one where when NN conjuncted my MC I met someone - the hard aspects are not always unpleasant. Then when NN got to the point where it quincunxed my Moon/SN and conjuncted Neptune, I got another message.

posted August 23, 2012 08:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Well, if your 10th house is ruled by Sag and your NN is in Sag then I would look to your Jupiter. What's it doing?

Edited to add: Is your NN in Sag? I don't think you said...

Also, your NN is telling you your focus in life. Some transits to it will be more noticeable than others. For example, when NN conjuncted my MC I met the man I thought I was going to marry. By the time it got to my 7th house and conjuncted my Neptune, we were breaking up and I was facing up to a bunch of illusions that I had helped to create. It hurt like a sonofa_____ but it was obviously a necessary part of my growth. Now it is conjunct my DESC and moving out of my relationship house and towards a NN/NN conjunction next year. just before it conjuncted my Neptune, it conjuncted my ex's ASC and he is the one who left me.

Conversely, back in 2003 when T. NN conjuncted my ASC, I ended a 7 year relationship and moved away and began a wonderful phase in my life, but it was a process.

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It's a good thing you seem to be able to extract positive lessons from your NN challenging transits. What is your Jupiter doing? Is it nicely posited and aspected in your chart?

Yes my NN is in Sagg. What's my Jupiter doing? it's in my 6th house in Leo, trining my NN so you'd think I should be lucky in the area of work and career, but same Jupiter is squared by natal Saturn. Another boogagoo square in my chart.

posted August 23, 2012 08:18 PM            

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Originally posted by MillyX:
I know!! Me too I just had my nn return this month in sag. in my 10th house & no significant event happened. However, I finally summed up the courage to change courses in college. It's a big 'career' change, it's related to travel. I can finally do what I want in life & not let other people pressure me.

Now that I think about it...I think node transits aren't 'big' events but I do think that the nn is where we are destined to be. Like me for example, I have nn in sag conjunct 10th house cusp & for some crazy reason I feel like I'm destined to have a career related to travel.

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Look like we're having NN Sagg at same location in our chart: 10th house.

posted August 23, 2012 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
I actually have a Grand cross involving my Nodes and angles btw Belage. My Nodes square my MC/IC axis and SN conjuncts my Moon.

I do feel that it's a challenge but I think that's part of what a NN does. It shows us where our challenges/life goals are. My NN is in Scorpio so I will look to Pluto for more information on my NN. Also, my NN is in the 6th house and is ruled by Mercury so I will look to both Mercury and what it does in my chart as well as 6th house matters to see wherein my challenges lie.

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Originally posted by Sorcha:

Look back to when you had NN aspecting your ASC/DSC to see what was happening at that time.

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posted August 23, 2012 08:25 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
Depends on how many of your planets/placements aspect your NN. My last NN return, I got into an unexpected college, received a large sum of money, changed careers, and had a unexpected family health issues. NN in Aquarius

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What are the natal planet/placements aspects to your NN?

posted August 23, 2012 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111:
I would say that nodes and angle aspects are underrated. I would say certain planet attraction aspects are overrated.

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posted August 23, 2012 08:34 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
NN trine Moon in Gemini, Eros & Psyche in Taurus.
NN Opposite Mercury in Leo, and Ceres
NN Square Mars in Taurus. Vertex in Libra, and Juno in Scorpio
NN conjunct MC in Aquarius both 10th house
NN semi-sextile Uranus in Capricorn

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Very interesting. Some good and some bad aspects. What is your Uranus doing, since it is the ruler of your NN?

ETA: Nevermind, I see it's semi-sextile NN in Cap. So you have Uranus in Cap which is the ruler of the 10th house, that's good in terms of mutual reception. Nice placement.

posted August 23, 2012 08:43 PM            

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I actually have a Grand cross involving my Nodes and angles btw Belage. My Nodes square my MC/IC axis and SN conjuncts my Moon.

I do feel that it's a challenge but I think that's part of what a NN does. It shows us where our challenges/life goals are. My NN is in Scorpio so I will look to Pluto for more information on my NN. Also, my NN is in the 6th house and is ruled by Mercury so I will look to both Mercury and what it does in my chart as well as 6th house matters to see wherein my challenges lie.

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Look back to when you had NN aspecting your ASC/DSC to see what was happening at that time.

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posted August 23, 2012 08:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Very interesting. Some good and some bad aspects. What is your Uranus doing, since it is the ruler of your NN?

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posted August 23, 2012 08:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Very interesting. Some good and some bad aspects. What is your Uranus doing, since it is the ruler of your NN?

ETA: Nevermind, I see it's semi-sextile NN in Cap. So you have Uranus in Cap which is the ruler of the 10th house, that's good in terms of mutual reception. Nice placement.

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posted August 23, 2012 08:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:

There you go! So part of your life goal is to find a way to work with the challenge of your Jupiter and Saturn. I would also say that when T. Jupiter or Saturn conjunct your NN or T. NN conjuncts either Jupiter or Saturn this could be a trigger for actual events. And/or transits to and from these planets may be in line with Nodal needs and goals.

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Very good insight. It just so happens that T. Jupiter in Gemini will at some point conjunct my SN, thus opposing my NN. Sounds pretty challenging, and I am just bracing myself.

posted August 23, 2012 08:52 PM            

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Originally posted by ail221:

huh? My North node is Aquarius in 10th house
My Uranus is Capricorn in the 8th house

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posted August 24, 2012 06:57 PM            

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Originally posted by Belage:
Very good insight. It just so happens that T. Jupiter in Gemini will at some point conjunct my SN, thus opposing my NN. Sounds pretty challenging, and I am just bracing myself.

I think that both last year and this year, we had eclipses in Gemini/Sagg, and in them, Gemini was the one eclipsing Sagg, so things of a Saggitarian nature took a back seat to the Geminian things. Thus the lack of solid movement in my career.

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Well the other thing to think about is that a square from Saturn to Jupiter can also signify a belief you will not 'win' or perhaps a greater focus on remembering what you believe are your failures as opposed to recalling the times when you believe you've succeeded. Since you mention the eclipses, it could be that the next 6 months are about shifting that thought, should it exist.

In your current relationship, it's possible that the square from your partner's Pluto is challenging you to grow by transforming something. Perhaps this is part of the lesson inherent in your relationship. Since you have your NN natally square your Sun/Venus it might indicate that the challenge is about your ego/relationship values. Pluto transforms so this could be a part of your learning curve with your NN.

Edited to add: I quoted the wrong quote. But in regards to your Jupiter conjuncting your SN, this will trigger your Sun/Venus as well as possibly bring up issues related to the Jupiter square Saturn I was mentioning. Therefore it could have to do with your values about yourself, self-worth, self-esteem, etc. since these will all be triggered at some level.