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Topic: Are the Nodes overrated?
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Belage
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From: California
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posted August 23, 2012 04:26 PM
  
I went through a NN return and nothing of significance happened in the house where I had my natal NN. What a lowdown!I think the freaking nodes are overrated. IP: Logged |
doommlord
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From: israel
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 23, 2012 04:30 PM
well....i belive that the NN is more of a process rather than than a "poof" transformation....you lose some interest in the SN and gain some in the NNimo its not the most important point of the chart....its just a piece of the puzzle that plays out with the rest of your chart IP: Logged |
strawberrysundae
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From: PlutoVenusMars
Registered: Mar 2012
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posted August 23, 2012 04:32 PM
I'm glad for that news thanks  lolIP: Logged |
Sorcha
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posted August 23, 2012 04:33 PM
Hey Belage I was just writing about this (in a way) and just bumped the topic. It's about our natal promise: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/215210.html I think that in general, when we have a point lIke the Vertex or a Node or perhaps am asteroid which is also conjunct or opposed to a natal planet, we notice transits in a much more visceral way. In your case, what rules your Nodal house? And does your NN make any major aspects to your natal planets? For me, my NN very widely conjuncts Uranus, so I wouldn't count that, but my SN is conjunct Moon so I will feel aspects to my Moon. If you're having a nodal return, it's usually the beginning of a new phase so everything won't happen all at once necessarily. You will likely notice the effects over time - perhaps in your chart NN I more subtle? IP: Logged |
Sorcha
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posted August 23, 2012 04:35 PM
Oh that's funny how we all just posted at once Also, I forgot to mention that when the Nodes cross over into new houses, especially the cardinal angles, actual noticeable changes are more likely to occur, even if you look back in retrospect. IP: Logged |
Gray
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posted August 23, 2012 04:44 PM
The Nodes are basically what you're supposed to do and develop into. there's no way they're overrated imo.IP: Logged |
doommlord
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From: israel
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 23, 2012 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by Gray:
The Nodes are basically what you're supposed to do and develop into. there's no way they're overrated imo.
with out the rest of the chart they actually are.... the rest of the chart tells you much about the person who goes from the SN to the NN....there are many people who have the same SN/NN position but go through very different experiences... IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2012 04:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Sorcha:
Hey Belage I was just writing about this (in a way) and just bumped the topic. It's about our natal promise: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/215210.html I think that in general, when we have a point lIke the Vertex or a Node or perhaps am asteroid which is also conjunct or opposed to a natal planet, we notice transits in a much more visceral way. In your case, what rules your Nodal house? And does your NN make any major aspects to your natal planets? For me, my NN very widely conjuncts Uranus, so I wouldn't count that, but my SN is conjunct Moon so I will feel aspects to my Moon. If you're having a nodal return, it's usually the beginning of a new phase so everything won't happen all at once necessarily. You will likely notice the effects over time - perhaps in your chart NN I more subtle?
My Nodal house (10th house) is ruled by Sag, I have no planets in that house.
My NN is square my ascendant/descendant axis and also square my sun/venus conjunction. Oh, and to top it off, I have Lilith conjunct NN. Peachy! So yeah, in MY chart, the nodes are of no freaking help and don't do jack! Sorry, I am feeling very sour right now, because I thought there was going to be a breakthrough in my career since that's where this darn NN is. It interferes with my love life since it's squares the sun/venus conjunction I have in 7th house, and I get NOTHING, NADA in return. IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2012 05:07 PM
I feel shafted. If the much heralded NN doesn't bring you anything of significance, even when you put energies and work into it, then what? IP: Logged |
doommlord
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From: israel
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 23, 2012 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
My Nodal house (10th house) is ruled by Sag, I have no planets in that house.
My NN is square my ascendant/descendant axis and also square my sun/venus conjunction. Oh, and to top it off, I have Lilith conjunct NN. Peachy!So yeah, in MY chart, the nodes are of no freaking help and don't do jack! Sorry, I am feeling very sour right now, because I thought there was going to be a breakthrough in my career since that's where this darn NN is. It interferes with my love life since it's squares the sun/venus conjunction I have in 7th house, and I get NOTHING, NADA in return.
im no master of readings but i think that this square is forcing you to choose....put your effort on relationships or putting effort on your carrer...cause putting it into both and thinking it will go well wont lead to anything and will only leave you stuck i might be wrong as i dont have much knowledge about sun square NN IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 23, 2012 05:26 PM
^^^ Squares are frustrating, and may be the most challenging aspects in astrology, whether we're looking at natal, transits, synastry or composite. It seems to me that squares force you to choose, which can be fine, but in the end, you lose both options, no matter what you chose. Almost like a cosmic dead end. i would like to hear about how others deal with natal squares to their NN. IP: Logged |
doommlord
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From: israel
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 23, 2012 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
^^^ Squares are frustrating, and may be the most challenging aspects in astrology, whether we're looking at natal, transits, synastry or composite. It seems to me that squares force you to choose, which can be fine, but in the end, you lose both options, no matter what you chose. Almost like a cosmic dead end. i would like to hear about how others deal with natal squares to their NN.
but its not actually a single square...you have a NN and A SN and that means you have a T-square here so maybe you should focus your energy on the missing link....the 1st house? IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 23, 2012 05:44 PM
hmmm. Interesting suggestion, DoommLord. The missing link in a T-square is the way out? IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2012 05:45 PM
But my ascendant is also square my NN and SN, so in a way, it's not a T-Square, but a grand cross...IP: Logged |
Lava Flower
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posted August 23, 2012 05:48 PM
I have chiron conjunct asteroid child 0* and square my NN 2*, no other aspects and I had my little girl during my NN return.IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted August 23, 2012 05:51 PM
Lava Flower, is your little girl okay? Chiron is usually associated with disabilities. IP: Logged |
doommlord
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From: israel
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted August 23, 2012 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
But my ascendant is also square my NN and SN, so in a way, it's not a T-Square, but a grand cross...
than it sucks XD maybe you shoul "shot it down" a placement at a time look for you easiest placement in the cross (when i mean "easy" i mean a lot of good aspect from other points) and push towards that.....it will probably feel less hard for you than the other placements in the cross and will enable you to start solving problems....bot you will need to take them down one at a time or else you will probably overload IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2012 06:14 PM
Honestly, doommlord, I don't even know how to go about doing this. It's been a frustrating battle and I have put so much effort in each area of this grand cross, and now I just give up on this. It is what it is. IP: Logged |
Lava Flower
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posted August 23, 2012 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
Lava Flower, is your little girl okay? Chiron is usually associated with disabilities.
She is perfect she was born healthy and she hardly ever gets sick. My progressed child was exactly conjunct my natal moon and her name asteroid progressed to conjunct her natal moon I think the conjunction of chiron/child applies to me more so, I had a pretty demanding childhood. Edit: that chiron/child conjunction falls exactly on her ASC IP: Logged |
Belage
Knowflake Posts: 931
From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2012 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by Lava Flower:
She is perfect she was born healthy and she hardly ever gets sick. My progressed child was exactly conjunct my natal moon and her name asteroid progressed to conjunct her natal moon I think the conjunction of chiron/child applies to me more so, I had a pretty demanding childhood. Edit: that chiron/child conjunction falls exactly on her ASC
That's cool. I am so glad to hear that.
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Lava Flower
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posted August 23, 2012 06:25 PM
^ Thank you. Astrology is amazing I hope you find the answers you're looking for IP: Logged |
Belage
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From: California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 23, 2012 06:53 PM
^^ Well I hope someone with grand cross involving nodes will chime in and give insight how they make it work. Because as it is, in some charts, Nodes CAN be overrated. IP: Logged |
Sorcha
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posted August 23, 2012 06:58 PM
Well, if your 10th house is ruled by Sag and your NN is in Sag then I would look to your Jupiter. What's it doing?Edited to add: Is your NN in Sag? I don't think you said... Also, your NN is telling you your focus in life. Some transits to it will be more noticeable than others. For example, when NN conjuncted my MC I met the man I thought I was going to marry. By the time it got to my 7th house and conjuncted my Neptune, we were breaking up and I was facing up to a bunch of illusions that I had helped to create. It hurt like a sonofa_____ but it was obviously a necessary part of my growth. Now it is conjunct my DESC and moving out of my relationship house and towards a NN/NN conjunction next year. just before it conjuncted my Neptune, it conjuncted my ex's ASC and he is the one who left me. Conversely, back in 2003 when T. NN conjuncted my ASC, I ended a 7 year relationship and moved away and began a wonderful phase in my life, but it was a process.
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MillyX
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From: canada
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted August 23, 2012 07:12 PM
I know!! Me too I just had my nn return this month in sag. in my 10th house & no significant event happened. However, I finally summed up the courage to change courses in college. It's a big 'career' change, it's related to travel. I can finally do what I want in life & not let other people pressure me. Now that I think about it...I think node transits aren't 'big' events but I do think that the nn is where we are destined to be. Like me for example, I have nn in sag conjunct 10th house cusp & for some crazy reason I feel like I'm destined to have a career related to travel. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted August 23, 2012 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by Gray:
The Nodes are basically what you're supposed to do and develop into. there's no way they're overrated imo.
strongly agree IP: Logged |
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