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Topic: Aspects of Materialism
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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted August 28, 2012 09:36 PM
  
Its an increasingly fine line between financial security and materialism. What one person considers the basic necessities may be different from the next person. What aspects bring about immense materialism and greed? I'll be the first to admit. IP: Logged |
TheManticore
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posted August 28, 2012 09:46 PM
Hmmm... lots of planets in Taurus or Capricorn I would think, also a heavy 2nd house, maybe lots of planets aspecting Venus?  ------------------
Leo Sun, Scorpio Moon, Aquarius ASC, Year of the Earth Snake
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L0veLess
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posted August 28, 2012 09:50 PM
naaaah i'm not like that. I like having nice things if i can afford it though! but thats about it. I'm pretty miserly! And i wouldn't just marry a guy for his money i'd feel too bad.
i got like everything in cap and my moon is in the 2nd house IP: Logged |
AriesKat
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posted August 28, 2012 11:16 PM
I have to agree I have my Venus in Taurus in the 2nd house and my Mars and midheaven in Cap. I obssess over being financially soundIP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted August 28, 2012 11:44 PM
I like a life w/o financial worries but I'm not hung up on money. Its a carefree sorta happy stand.  I only hv uranus in scorpio in 2nd house. not sure what it means though. Venus in gemini in 9th house.IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted August 29, 2012 12:08 AM
I've got the Capricorn stellium and the Sun is in the 10th House and the Jupiter is in the 2nd House in Aries. I tend to be more achievement driven than plain wealth, but I do enjoy expensive things. Overall, I have tend to attract more women who are focused on wealth, and not just security. There's a difference. I had one girlfriend who outright said she's not living there, or driving that. The relationship didn't last, obviously. But I'm no chump. I work hard and therefore I feel I deserve to be paid. Once in a while, I enjoy spending, especially on others. Ruler of MC is Jupiter in 2nd. It's a workaholic, money-faced aspect. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted August 29, 2012 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I had one girlfriend who outright said she's not living there, or driving that.
did she have any cap? i checked my ex that that talked like that and she had cap moon. taurus can be down to earth and call out pretension or even be non luxe. i'm going to throw in leo in the bag too lol! my leo ex does not like wearing what other people wear even in perfumes and so on.. i forget the reading of mine.. either south node in sag or in the 2nd house. i believe you should live a certain way. IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted August 29, 2012 12:45 AM
I feel me like an boheme. I have no need for much money and materialism. From poor to rich. My siblings and my mother and father hasnt got the same luck as me about money and materialism.Ive an t-square and love hard work. Thisone is the most important chart trigger to me. Without my t-square I never been where Im today. I worked and save money and start buy and sold apartment. My mercury, uranus, pluto in house 2
saturn house 8
venus conj mars trine saturn venus trine saturn seems to me be an good aspect of increased materialism. IP: Logged |
ail221
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posted August 29, 2012 12:57 AM
Venus in Gemini 2nd house
Sun conjunct Jupiter in Cancer 3rd house
Three planets in Capricorn 9th and 8th houseDo I like moments of over-indulgence and extravagance? yes.
Do I need it in order to feel my life is complete? No.
I prefer to feel financially safe and secure rather than have excess funds that can get me into more trouble than its worth having. IP: Logged |
violet7887
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From: maya
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posted August 29, 2012 01:32 AM
1) Largely depends on the way you have been raised or circumstances.2) Mostly, Ascendant, Sun or Moon in Earth Signs. This falls under their basic nature. 3) OR moon in Air Signs. Air moons because they are very rational internally and never stop to smell the roses. All the ones i have known have a tendency of being workoholics. But unlike the Earth influence, this is only a state of mind, which can change when they want to explore outside the box. ------------------
The love you seek, you will find within. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness
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posted August 29, 2012 02:16 AM
In my experience taurus moons have always been materialistic.One taurus moon friend told me that he does not really need people,give him money to spend and he will remain happy forever.Another taurus moon I know tells“money talks” atleast once a day.I have never experienced this with taurus suns,only the moons.IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted August 29, 2012 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I had one girlfriend who outright said she's not living there, or driving that. The relationship didn't last, obviously. But I'm no chump. I work hard and therefore I feel I deserve to be paid.
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Honestly I always believe it is not rational to base a man's worth on his wealth - he may lose everything at some unfortunate crisis as a woman will lose her beauty as she grows older. Its just not safe to choose/judge a man based on wealth. lol. its the heart i'm after.. gives me better control over matters. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted August 29, 2012 02:39 AM
its the heart i'm after.. gives me better control over matters. [/B][/QUOTE]well that doesn't sound sinister at all. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted August 29, 2012 02:44 AM
Lol. absolutely agree. I hv weak heart.
Gd thing i'm nt too navive despite overly romantic. Edited: interesting thing u just mentioned. One ex was absolutely terrified while another loves that abt me. IP: Logged |
JenniferThiesing
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Registered: Aug 2012
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posted August 29, 2012 05:56 AM
Bleh Moon, venus, uranus, & neptune all in capricorn in the 2nd house. As long as I have money in case I need something or emergency Im okay. But me with no job and broke.. is cause for a breakdown. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted August 29, 2012 07:53 AM
Personally, I like to be comfortable and financially secure, but I don't believe in name brands. Even with the lower-end name brands, it still seems silly to me. I buy what I like and can afford. I can't stand logos on clothes/accessories and find them annoying. I'm not a billboard. I'm not going to buy a brand just because it's x brand. For me to seek out a particular brand, it has to really be better-suited to me (and has to be what I can afford). I think too that with clothes, name-brand buying is sometimes uncreative. I like the challenge of putting an outfit together on my own. Then again, for formal events/non-casual occasions, uncreative can sometimes be in better taste. I care about quality, cost, and appearance. For clothes, I care about fit, too. Just because something is expensive doesn't mean that it's beautiful or well-made/durable. I'm not the type of person who could "rough it". I'm not outdoorsy or adventurous. Material security is important to me. I fear being homeless or not being able to enjoy a good quality of life. I'd rather be dead. I don't need flashy items, and don't need things like big screens or techie gadgets (I'm not into those things; my favorite luxuries are clothes, accessories, and books, and would be travel to Europe if I had the funds) but I do need a few comforts and to have enough to not worry about the future too much. I don't want to marry, but I'm not going to lie: money would be a consideration. Not just how much, but how it is spent, how often, on what--basically, how one manages money. Money alone would not impress me. However, I would want to have my future secure. If someone had a lot of money, but spent it often and was careless (like gambling or buying a new car every week), that would be a major red flag. I would want to live comfortably, but have a lot saved for a rainy day. I don't date, but if I did, this would be a serious consideration in determining whether or not I wanted to be serious with someone. Their philosophy on money would be important. I couldn't deal with someone who was frugal to the point of being extremist, but I also couldn't deal with someone reckless to the point, again, of being extreme. Attitude would be important, too. Someone who just felt that they could buy their way into and out of everything would not impress me. Someone who thought themselves better because of having money would also not impress me. A healthy attitude towards money is good: appreciate it, use it wisely, remember that it can be taken away, and also remember that "to those to whom more is given, more is expected" (sorry, I forget the exact passage). If someone looked down on others simply for not having money, that would be another red flag. And, too, it would be important if one was wealthy to be able to enjoy the non-material things and appreciate what money cannot buy. I don't think that it's healthy or good to not care about money at all, or to say that money is bad, etc. For me, it's a matter of degree and how one deals with money that is good or bad, rather than money itself. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted August 29, 2012 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Honestly I always believe it is not rational to base a man's worth on his wealth - he may lose everything at some unfortunate crisis as a woman will lose her beauty as she grows older. Its just not safe to choose/judge a man based on wealth. lol. its the heart i'm after.. gives me better control over matters.
Too many women walk out on their husbands the moment the first crisis hits, and move on to their second husbands. Dittos with husbands on wives the moment they get pregnant. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted August 29, 2012 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
did she have any cap? i checked my ex that that talked like that and she had cap moon.
She was a Libra. Fundamentally incompatible anyway. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted August 29, 2012 08:44 AM
My family is brand conscious itself, to the extent that branding is a quality driven proposition. A Kermit-The-Frog green Chanel dress with gold metal buckles may have been designed by the House of Chanel, but it is flipping fugly and is bad taste. Leave that stuff to crazy Hollyweird celebrities lol I'm not into advertising someone dumb logo either. But if my Mrs. likes carrying a Hermes Birkin bag, and as long as I can afford, I will damn well buy her as many as it takes to keep her happy. Come to my neighborhood and you'll hear stuff that aggravates you immensely: seven year olds getting into contests about what their parents have. Just heard at the beach a couple weeks ago from a grade school girl: my daddy's Porsche is a "real" Porsche and not a Boxster (meaning a 911). I walked up to the kid and gave her a piece of my mind in front of her mother. Adults are guilty of that stuff too. "My minivan has three DVD players." Which you watch while juggling your damn iPhone texts, Starbucks coffee and bratty kids while making an illegal three-point u-turn at a busy intersection while your fake b00bs, fake tan and fake colored hair get in the way of your steering wheel!
Having said all that, I generally use one brand of pens, order my shirts from two stores, wear one brand of watch, drive one brand of car (with exceptions), wear one brand of shoes, etc. etc. Am I materialistic? Probably. I buy stuff that I like. Stuff makes me a tad happy - to a certain extent. But I'm not ostentatious with stuff. And I work too hard to live ghetto. I lived ghetto while in college, and poverty sux. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto
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posted August 29, 2012 09:48 AM
Yep. Poverty sucks. It is horrifying not to know where the money for the next meal is. .IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
Registered: Sep 2011
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posted August 29, 2012 09:56 AM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
My family is brand conscious itself, to the extent that branding is a quality driven proposition. A Kermit-The-Frog green Chanel dress with gold metal buckles may have been designed by the House of Chanel, but it is flipping fugly and is bad taste. Leave that stuff to crazy Hollyweird celebrities lol I'm not into advertising someone dumb logo either. But if my Mrs. likes carrying a Hermes Birkin bag, and as long as I can afford, I will damn well buy her as many as it takes to keep her happy. Come to my neighborhood and you'll hear stuff that aggravates you immensely: seven year olds getting into contests about what their parents have. Just heard at the beach a couple weeks ago from a grade school girl: my daddy's Porsche is a "real" Porsche and not a Boxster (meaning a 911). I walked up to the kid and gave her a piece of my mind in front of her mother. Adults are guilty of that stuff too. "My minivan has three DVD players." Which you watch while juggling your damn iPhone texts, Starbucks coffee and bratty kids while making an illegal three-point u-turn at a busy intersection while your fake b00bs, fake tan and fake colored hair get in the way of your steering wheel!
Having said all that, I generally use one brand of pens, order my shirts from two stores, wear one brand of watch, drive one brand of car (with exceptions), wear one brand of shoes, etc. etc. Am I materialistic? Probably. I buy stuff that I like. Stuff makes me a tad happy - to a certain extent. But I'm not ostentatious with stuff. And I work too hard to live ghetto. I lived ghetto while in college, and poverty sux.
LMAO. Especially at the part about the DVD players. I don't get why you even need one in a car. Wouldn't that be a big distraction and cause a lot of annoying noise? And I agree with your points about brands when the quality is significantly better/suits your needs. We see eye to eye on that one. What I meant is when someone buys something just to show off. I've known a few people who will brag about brands that they have, and like the items aren't even pretty. Also totally agree with you about that Chanel dress that you described! YUCK! My eyes would be seriously depressed and saddened by that. I'm not really a big fan of Chanel, at least not as it is right now. I like other designers. Can't afford them, but I still like looking at all of the pretty . IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
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posted August 29, 2012 04:58 PM
*something else that I forgot to add, too, is that how a person earns their money is also important to considersomeone earning by shady practices or illegal things, not cool someone working hard and earning it, very cool someone just being born into it, lucky IP: Logged |
peachbeigeblue
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posted August 29, 2012 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by TheManticore:
Hmmm... lots of planets in Taurus or Capricorn I would think, also a heavy 2nd house, maybe lots of planets aspecting Venus?
I have three planets in my Second house all aspecting Venus. I'm not materialistic. The Ruler of my MC is in my 9th conjunct my POF.
My 10th house is empty except my south node. I work much harder than most people at work, as I feel it is the right thing to do. I don't mess around and am very respectful of the company and would never take advantage or waste time while I'm working. I have turned down many promotions and left a job that would have made me financially more sound just because I didn't truly enjoy those jobs and it didn't make me happy. I think my 9th and 10th houses have a lot to do with this. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero
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From: Storybrooke, Mr. Gold's Shop
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posted August 29, 2012 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by TheManticore:
Hmmm... lots of planets in Taurus or Capricorn I would think, also a heavy 2nd house, maybe lots of planets aspecting Venus?
I have two Cap planets in the 2nd house, and a very well-aspected Venus.... Dun Dun DUN IP: Logged |
Dreamweaver
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posted August 29, 2012 09:54 PM
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Originally posted by TheManticore:
Hmmm... lots of planets in Taurus or Capricorn I would think, also a heavy 2nd house, maybe lots of planets aspecting Venus?
Um - possibly true, I have taurus asc & mars in capricorn - I wouldn't say I was materialistic & greedy but, this is hard for a pisces to admit, I do like financial security (having grown up without it) - but I am also prepared to work for it. The most ambitious & successful couple I know are a Taurus woman married to a Capricorn man & it seems like they have the midas touch but I know they just work really hard. She told me once: "I wake up thinking about money & I go to bed thinking about it too"!! I also find a lot of Cancer men are actually quite driven, ambitious & materialistic - could be their need to feel secure? IP: Logged |
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