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awakemer
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posted August 29, 2012 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK so we all know the ASC is what mask we where right? but i get confused with the other descriptions saying its WHO WE really are in soul development.. if that's true why wear it as a mask?

Is it more important than the sun and moon sign? what heirachy would it go with?

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posted August 29, 2012 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've heard that the ASC is more "who we are" in our younger years, because it is the 1st house..and the Sun is who we are developing into..not sure how true that is, though.

I take the ASC to mostly mean how we portray ourselves. It's not just a mask, but a very important aspect of ourselves.

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posted August 29, 2012 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel the opposite.. i was more like my sun sign in my younger years and more like my ASC as i get older.

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posted August 29, 2012 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i hate being aware of scorpio energy (my ascendant) i wish i didn't know what it was and just kept on keeping on.

i think astro123 has a calculator which includes the ascendant whereas pullen does not. my ascendant is supposed to be the strongest planet/ angle in my chart.

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posted August 29, 2012 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for earthypisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
I feel the opposite.. i was more like my sun sign in my younger years and more like my ASC as i get older.

I've always heard it that way, the older you get, the more like your ascendant you become.

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posted August 29, 2012 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lava Flower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by earthypisces:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by awakemer:
[b]I feel the opposite.. i was more like my sun sign in my younger years and more like my ASC as i get older.


I've always heard it that way, the older you get, the more like your ascendant you become.[/B][/QUOTE]

This has been my experience as well. I noticed my moon a lot growing up.

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posted August 29, 2012 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by awakemer:
OK so we all know the ASC is what mask we where right?

If we do,we are terrible at astrology,then.

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but i get confused with the other descriptions saying its WHO WE really are in soul development.. if that's true why wear it as a mask?

That's good assumption,and that's why we DON'T wear it as a mask

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Is it more important than the sun and moon sign? what heirachy would it go with?

You have no natal chart if you don't know Asc.

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posted August 29, 2012 04:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RunAroundScreaming     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your ascendant isnt really a mask, it's can be more accurately described by saying its the stereotype or label you fit into since you were little.

For example, me as a libra asc since i was little i was known as "the sweet/nice girl"

an aries rising could be known as "the pushy one who is always angry" haha. My cousin is libra with aries rising. that's her label...

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posted August 29, 2012 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
your ascendant isnt really a mask, it's can be more accurately described by saying its the stereotype or label you fit into since you were little.

For example, me as a libra asc since i was little i was known as "the sweet/nice girl"

an aries rising could be known as "the pushy one who is always angry" haha. My cousin is libra with aries rising. that's her label...


Cap rising.. what would that be?? i really don't think i was a serious child.. who looked wise and mature, lol.. but oh well. I really fit the leo to a T (leo sun and moon)

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posted August 29, 2012 05:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for frankie2912     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, thats why I said I wasn't so sure if that was true...as a child, I was definitely more like my Moon sign (Sagittarius) and in my pre-teen years, much like my Sun sign (Capricorn). As I grow older, I'm more and more like my ASC (Scorpio) so yeah..just stating something I've heard elsewhere. I think they made that connection because the 1st house is associated with Aries which is often called the "child" of the zodiac.

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posted August 29, 2012 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoVeLy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by earthypisces:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by awakemer:
[b]I feel the opposite.. i was more like my sun sign in my younger years and more like my ASC as i get older.


I've always heard it that way, the older you get, the more like your ascendant you become.[/B][/QUOTE]

Then what about the progressed ASC ?

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posted August 29, 2012 07:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pancakes22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always heard it the other way. You are more like your asc up until late teens. Then you progress into yours sun. It definitely applied to me.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What? I've always been nothing but my sun sign. Not one ounce of my ASC. Confuses the hell out of me how anyone can see me as a Pisces.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Th ASC is not a mask, per se. It is a perceptual lens with which you see life. I am a Libra ASC. My first thought in any disagreement is how can we BOTH win. I am very diplomatic. The ASC is part of one but the part we use to walk through our every day life versus our identity(sun) and deepest emotions ( moon)

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posted August 29, 2012 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't decide!

When I was younger I never saw the Gemini in me. Now that I'm older I see myself more objectively and recognize a lot of Gemini traits.

I will say it's definitely hard for me to mind my own business. I am ALWAYS curious. I full of random facts, I'm flirtatious, I have natural verbal and written skills (which just baffles my Scorpio ASC friend. Whenever she needs a resume or cover letter written she asks me because I can make it sound professional and have it done in five or ten minutes.) and I'm great at multi-tasking...for the most part! I'm also indirect and have a tendency to play mind games to test the other person (shame on me, I know.) I'm huge on equality and tolerance as well, and I need variety and constant stimulation or I get irritated.

But then I'm stubborn, moody which I heard are Gemini traits but I also have a Taurus moon so I don't know! AH.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was much more of a Leo (ascendant) when I was younger than I am now.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Th ASC is not a mask, per se. It is a perceptual lens with which you see life. I am a Libra ASC. My first thought in any disagreement is how can we BOTH win. I am very diplomatic. The ASC is part of one but the part we use to walk through our every day life versus our identity(sun) and deepest emotions ( moon)



Steven forrest describes it as a mask we were when we are first meeting people. its how we are perceived when someone first meets us.. the first thing i do is tense up and get shy (capricorn asc) but i love your description!

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posted August 29, 2012 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree that the ascendant is not a mask.

And the ascendant tells us about the chart ruler, which is imo the single most important astrological info you may have on the chart.

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posted August 29, 2012 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I look at someone's planets without knowing what his or her ascendant is, I feel that I don't really know the person.

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posted August 29, 2012 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hanneli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm a capricorn rising, and have had a lot of friends tell me that i come off intimidating or serious. their opinions of me changed after we got to talking. i've always been critical about the trait of me because on the inside i'm just timid and shy and hate the idea that people might think i'm trying to be standoffish

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posted August 29, 2012 09:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hanneli:
i'm a capricorn rising, and have had a lot of friends tell me that i come off intimidating or serious. their opinions of me changed after we got to talking. i've always been critical about the trait of me because on the inside i'm just timid and shy and hate the idea that people might think i'm trying to be standoffish

Just wanted to say I like the name "Hanneli" is it pronounced "-eye"? or "-Lee?" at the end

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posted August 29, 2012 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for awakemer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hanneli:
i'm a capricorn rising, and have had a lot of friends tell me that i come off intimidating or serious. their opinions of me changed after we got to talking. i've always been critical about the trait of me because on the inside i'm just timid and shy and hate the idea that people might think i'm trying to be standoffish


I get that as well.

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posted August 29, 2012 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hanneli     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Just wanted to say I like the name "Hanneli" is it pronounced "-eye"? or "-Lee?" at the end

haha thank you, like "-lee!"

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posted August 29, 2012 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Belage:
I agree that the ascendant is not a mask.

And the ascendant tells us about the chart ruler, which is imo the single most important astrological info you may have on the chart.


Belage,

This is off topic but could you please telle what Neptune in the 9th House in Scorpio as Chart Ruler means please (Pisces ASC)?. In your opinion I trust.

Thank you very much.

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posted August 29, 2012 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Belage,

This is off topic but could you please telle what Neptune in the 9th House in Scorpio as Chart Ruler means please (Pisces ASC)?. In your opinion I trust.

Thank you very much.


i'd say that indicates a very strong faith in god.

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