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stillatlarge
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posted September 02, 2012 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahem...just every once in a while you find there was a reason our grandparents did things the way they did...and just maybe they did know a thing or two...

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stillatlarge
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posted September 02, 2012 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stillatlarge     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whoops. It wouldn't show so I reposted

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Ami Anne
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posted September 02, 2012 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon and Sun in the 7th would show the desire for marriage.

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posted September 02, 2012 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyFavouriteName     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, i think it can depend on what relationship you as a person want. if you discover what you have with the person, and or who or what they are as a person isn't the package you want, then you won't want to marry them no matter what synastry you have.

i think my view on astrology is shifting a little.

astrology i think, Can influence what you have in common. thats one way it can play out. but as often, it can mean you have little in common. why? maybe because, all signs and planets have various ways about them that they can come about. i.e. scorpio/pluto can be intense, vulnerable, open and very direct. or it could be very secretive, in the background, quiet and controlling in a more manipulative way.

but what i do think astrology does guarantee, is if you are infatuated or loving someone, or interested in them and you get involved with them, then the synastry between your charts, shows how you will experience each other, and what you'll share. not the other way around. i don't think synastry decides or guarantees that two people who have a certain synastry, will have a absolute or pre-determined result because of the aspects. i.e. a popular aspect for marriage, will not suggest marriage every-time you experience the aspect(s) with another person.

freewill and choice is still there.


as for me, i wanted to marry my ex for a time.

what kind of astrological energies made me feel that way?

probably 3 - Uranus, Neptune, Saturn.

what planets touched between us that i think were significant?

my Moon conjnct her venus.

her Sun conjunct my NN opposite my Sun (asc ruler)

Saturn-Sun, Saturn Venus x 2

my Venus trine her Moon

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted September 02, 2012 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The messed up part I see as a man is that there is a one-direction flow of initiative. The man has to propose. If it doesn't, he just strings the woman along. And the woman sometimes doesn't get the man's intent. There's this cruel sexist saying that "if the milk is free, why buy the cow?". The collorary is that the woman stands firm that consummation doesn't occur till marriage. And therefore the man is pressured into a not-so-compatible marriage, and things go downhill from there.

My bottom line is that two way communication is so important, and nothing should be so taboo that it cannot be discussed.

Btw. My wife and I discussed marriage and I didn't get to even propose. What do you think about marriage and kids? Yeah. That's good. We ought to get married. Yes, I agree. And thus we decided to get married. On Day 22!!!

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andstuff
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posted September 02, 2012 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for andstuff     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/when-to-marry.html

have you seen this? it's not so much about marriage in synastry as about marriage markers in solar return charts.

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Ann7
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posted September 02, 2012 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Here is the chart, thank you for taking a look.

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Ann7
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posted September 02, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YoursTruly, I agree with you... And I don't want to pressure him - at all. Where is the romance in that? But I am confused on what's going through his head as he tends to be a bit elusive. I've asked his thoughts on marriage and he gets all wishy-washy. Like he wishes he had a Twix bar to stuff in his mouth so he doesn't have to answer.

I know he loves me but what I question is does he want to be in it for the long term? My biggest fear is something similar to what a Know-flake posted earlier, a woman is with a man for 8 years only to be told he wants to marry, just not her...

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RegardesPlatero
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posted September 02, 2012 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Four years is no good. You deserve to know where you stand. He can't have his cake and eat it too. At least not forever. You deserve to know where you stand. I'm male btw.

AMEN.

It's one thing if neither side cares one way or the other too much. It's another thing, though, if one person very much desires marriage and the other person will not commit when the subject comes up: that shows that you don't have similar values and are in different places, which requires a conversation.

If there is a major difference between you two on this issue, then you definitely should talk about it.

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Belage
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posted September 02, 2012 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I took a look at your chart. You could get married this year.

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Ann7
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posted September 02, 2012 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
REALLY?! ... You wouldn't tease a girl, would ya? The thing is, I don't want a fancy wedding, I'm happy going to the court house. I just want to be able to call him my husband... Getting verklempt now.

What in the chart makes you say that?

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ail221
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posted September 02, 2012 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder I have Sun, Moon, Venus, Jupiter in the tenth house & Moon ,Mars , Saturn and Uranus in the 7th house with someone.I shouldn't even thinking about marriage now but I am curious.

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Belage
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posted September 02, 2012 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ann7:
REALLY?! ... You wouldn't tease a girl, would ya? The thing is, I don't want a fancy wedding, I'm happy going to the court house. I just want to be able to call him my husband... Getting verklempt now.

What in the chart makes you say that?


No, I wouldn't tease you, as I know it's important to you.

I didn't pay attention to his chart. I just looked at yours.

Are you Sagg rising? Jupiter is your chart ruler, and this year Jupiter is transiting in your 7th house. If you don't marry this dude, someone else will be there. If marriage is important to you, don't hold on to someone who is not interested in getting married. Open yourself up to other possibilities and other men.

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Ann7
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posted September 02, 2012 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Belage . We are both sag rising (tight conjunction) so Jupiter is transiting his 7th, too.

As far as other men go - I don't have it in me, at least not right now, to go through the dating process again. I sincerely love this man.

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Belage
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posted September 02, 2012 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If he is also Sagg rising, then getting married is quite likely for both of you this year.

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Dreaming111
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posted September 02, 2012 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ann7:
YoursTruly, I agree with you... And I don't want to pressure him - at all. Where is the romance in that? But I am confused on what's going through his head as he tends to be a bit elusive. I've asked his thoughts on marriage and he gets all wishy-washy. Like he wishes he had a Twix bar to stuff in his mouth so he doesn't have to answer.

Your charts seem very similar. But what doesn't make sense is his hesitation. : /

Is he married or with someone else?
Does he have responsibilities to his kids?

Have you even met him in person or his family?

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Ann7
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posted September 02, 2012 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, he is divorced and we've lived together over 4 years now. We both have 2 kids and they all live with us (happily) except for my oldest (almost 23) who lives with her boyfriend.

I don't want to keep bringing it up but waiting around for a proposal gets old after a while.

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starmoon
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posted September 03, 2012 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ann7:
No, he is divorced and we've lived together over 4 years now. We both have 2 kids and they all live with us (happily) except for my oldest (almost 23) who lives with her boyfriend.

I don't want to keep bringing it up but waiting around for a proposal gets old after a while.


might be off topic, but reading this just made me wonder ... why don't women clear this up with men BEFORE entering into relationships with them? like "are you planning to get married/married again?" - why isn't this a question that is asked at the start of something serious? or why don't more women just say 'i want marriage, is that going to be a problem.' it seems less time would be wasted, unless of course the guy lies

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Belage
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posted September 03, 2012 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starmoon make some very valid points.

In the case of the OP, it's not too late. Her 7th house is in Gemini, the sign of communication, so I highly encourage her to SPEAK UP and COMMUNICATE her desire for marriage, but to do it in a light manner, not in a clingy manner, all in keeping with the Geminian style. And she needs to be ready to move on if she feels she is not getting anywhere. Gemini will not stick around if he feels he is not wanted.

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Beautiful Disaster
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posted September 03, 2012 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful Disaster     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
dont pay any mind to that. the whole chart has to balance it off. i have had marriage aspects with people before. didnt happen. i will post the aspects tomorrow. too lazy right now lol

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Ann7
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posted September 03, 2012 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Starmoon and Belage, He asked me to marry him in the beginning when he was still married to his ex (finalizing divorce papers) and I said yes but come back and ask when you're divorced. He never did. Over the years I've, gently brought the subject up so I most definitely have been trying to communicate. I do not want to give him an ultimatum, I feel that is very wrong. We both have gemini on the 7th, and you're right I have no desire to stick around where I'm not wanted (especially with the ego that's attached to my scorp sun - way to proud). I've been making changes in my life because I feel like I'm going to eventually leave if he continues to look at the ground when I bring the up the subject. At this point, it wont be an ultimatum- I know how I am - once I'm done- I'm done. I will respectfully back out of the relationship.

It's like we've morphed everything together but he doesn't want to make it legal. And he won't give me a reason why.

Ermm.... Sorry for the bad soap opera, lol

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