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Topic: For Newbies and Lurkers--In Which House is Your Chiron?
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 06:49 AM
Want to discuss the House in which Chiron resides? I am fascinated by Chiron as each person has a touch from Chiron in some place in the chart i.e. the house in which Chiron resides. The myth of Chiron is the wounded healer. The classic myth says Chiron cannot heal BUT can heal others, from his wound.Some Astrologers feel he can heal. Some feel he cannot. At any rate, Chiron's house seems to be the area where people feel the most wounded. Please share. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 06:51 AM
If any old timers want to help out the newbies, please jump in. Feel free to share your Chiron placement, but I really want to welcome new people, so have the focus on them.For me, my Chiron is in the 4th house and my primary hard thing in life has been my mother, as true to the myth, as the 4th House is the mother and early childhood. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal
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Ann7 Knowflake Posts: 172 From: united states Registered: May 2009
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posted September 03, 2012 07:10 AM
Hi Ami, I, too, have chiron in my 4th (pisces/aries cusp). My greatest childhood/ late teens wound was losing my mom when I was 18. I read somewhere, maybe even here in LL that chiron in the 4th represents sudden loss - one day my mom was fine the next day she was gone due to a car accident. My chiron also opposes mars/pluto/jupiter in my 10th. My relationship with my dad was very difficult. Last, I find that I try very hard not to repeat the mistakes of my parents with my own kids (who have my heart in a vice grip even though they can be a pain in the butt ) - Family, a big happy one, is important to me. Neat idea for a thread, I'm looking forward to what everyone else has to say. IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 220 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 03, 2012 08:11 AM
My chiron is in virgo in 10th house opposing my pisces stellium(sun,mercury,saturn,venus) in 4th,squares my pluto in scorpio(1H),sextiles my scorpio ascendant and jupiter in scorpio(1H).Most descriptions I have read about chiron in 10th house have been very negative,example:lot of struggles in career,public image etc. but I am quite young,lets see what happens with my career.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 08:15 AM
Thanks for sharing Ann. I am so sorry for you loss. My heartache with my mother was abuse, not death, but yet, clearly a 4th House Chiron issue.------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 08:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: My chiron is in virgo in 10th house opposing my pisces stellium(sun,mercury,saturn,venus) in 4th,squares my pluto in scorpio(1H),sextiles my scorpio ascendant and jupiter in scorpio(1H).Most descriptions I have read about chiron in 10th house have been very negative,example:lot of struggles in career,public image etc. but I am quite young,lets see what happens with my career.
We must remember that everyone has a Chiron. It is just a matter of where. Some positions seem harder than others. Conjunct the ASC seems like one of the hardest, to me, so far in my work with charts. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ann7 Knowflake Posts: 172 From: united states Registered: May 2009
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posted September 03, 2012 08:35 AM
I'm sorry, Ami Anne - I hope you are at a place where you can find peace. I know I still struggle to make peace with issues related to my father. I get so sad when I read about folks on here that have suffered an injustice, especially inflicted by a parent. But, with that being said, I have found LL to be a nice place to seek solace. On a different note, kind of, I'm curious what chiron in the 8th (in tight opposition with venus in the 2cd) would signify. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 08:39 AM
Thanks Ann I hate to say this, but I see it is true. My abuse made me what I am, today  Well, I would say that the 8th House Chiron would be a hard time with deep emotions and passions. I see someone who may not be able to go under the surface of life to face taboo areas, as we all must. I see the phrase "The unexamined life is not worth living" to be something an 8th House Chiron may struggle with. They may want to skim the surface of life and be afraid to go deeper. I look forward to hearing from the 8th House Chirons. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 08:41 AM
Chiron in the 8th oppose Venus in the 2nd may be a person who has a hard time looking deep inside. He loves the material world and all that offers, a great deal BUT he is pulled to the soul world, to explore that. Then, he is pulled back to the material world and may say, "Pooh, on those deeper issues. I have to make a living". Then, the soul world calls him back. I can see this back and forth situation with this aspect. What do you think, Ann?------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ann7 Knowflake Posts: 172 From: united states Registered: May 2009
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posted September 03, 2012 09:23 AM
I'm not sure what to think... My youngest has this. I feared the chiron in the 8th would cause her some kind of pain - as a mom, I wanted to prevent that as much as possible... She has venus conjunct jupiter in the second which seems to bring her much abundance. Thinking about it, I can see what you are saying. In my little ones case, she loves "stuff" but she isn't so spoiled that she demands it. She definitely has a fear of delving into the unknown (which at ten relates to riding a bike ... anything where you have to take a chance.) I also feel that she holds in her deepest thoughts. My biggest fear is shielding her from the possible loss of her father (ex husband) who has been battling cancer since 2006. Not to get too deep or too emotional but I thought that's what chiron in the 8th might signify. IP: Logged |
Chiemi Knowflake Posts: 188 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted September 03, 2012 09:31 AM
Chiron in 4th in libraI can agree with the mother issue. I still love my mom but as of late I just can't look up to her anymore. Maybe it's because I'm getting older and I can see and understand things, but I feel like ever since she's been with her boyfriend (who she constantly rants about how annoying/irresponsible he is to me) I feel like she's let me down because she's doing the exact opposite of what she said she'd never do. It's like she doesn't even notice how much this affects me. A lot to explain this issue and I'll probably open a thread on it later. As far as a home and chiron it's definitely a pain if I put it in perspective looking at things now. The older I get the more I just see myself not even keeping in contact with most of my family. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 09:39 AM
Oh, I see Ann. Maybe, research Chiron in the 8th and see if it is a loss by death. You can put the info up on a separate thread if you want. You could do a "Chiron in the 8th" thread. I am forcing myself to be more organized  ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Alabaster437 Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 03, 2012 01:38 PM
I'm surprised that there's quite a bit of fourth house Chirons on this thread so far.I also have it in the fourth house, but it's in Leo. My self-confidence is quite shaky at times and usually I have difficulty with any kind of creative expression, which is one of the abilities I admire most in people. I absolutely love music and literature, but my own creativity is stifled. I think these low points are most definitely intertwined with my mother/early childhood. My mom was quite critical of me with my looks when I was younger. I'm sort of the ugly duckling in the family, which she never let me forget, hence the low self-esteem. As for my creativity, a lot of times she would very subtly mock anything I tried. Statements like "Look at this POEM your sister wrote" or "Your sister's going to TRY to dance" were pretty common. She wasn't supportive at all. Also, she knew how to manipulate the home atmosphere into a ticking time bomb. A lot of my adolescence has been spent walking on eggshells around her, trying to avoid conflict, which she thrives on. I also have Mars in this house right on the cusp, loosely conjunct Chiron by nine degrees. There was a lot of aggression in my house and domestic abuse between my parents when I was around five to ten years old. My dad would bottle things up and my mom would provoke him endlessly, so arguments were definitely explosive. Strangely, or stupidly, enough I really want my own family one day. With Chiron in this house, I experienced a lot of pain and I want to break that pattern of abuse and manipulation by the hand of my mother. Mars kind of adds to this drive, I think. Whew, that was a lot, but this thread is a really great idea. I feel a little better getting that out. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 01:43 PM
Thank YOU for sharing Alabaster. I am glad you were able to do that in the safety of this thread.  Let me ask you this when you describe your mother. See where the Medusa asteroid is, if you know how. Do you know how to check for asteroids?
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7thGuardian Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Transylvania Registered: May 2012
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posted September 03, 2012 01:45 PM
Mine is in 11'th house...IP: Logged |
pixieangel Knowflake Posts: 159 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted September 03, 2012 01:45 PM
Hi AmiAnne,My Chiron is in my 2nd house in Aries. I am not sure what to make of it? The 2nd house has to do with money i earn doesn't it? Pixie IP: Logged |
7thGuardian Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Transylvania Registered: May 2012
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posted September 03, 2012 01:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by pixieangel: Hi AmiAnne,My Chiron is in my 2nd house in Aries. I am not sure what to make of it? The 2nd house has to do with money i earn doesn't it? Pixie
"Chiron in the 2nd house: Chiron teaches and gives advise. The 2nd house is money, possessions, and values. You can show other people how to take care of their money better than you take care of your own. In fact, your own finances could be a mess. Sometimes, this placement can make for a miser, but the money collected never brings any pleasure or get rid of the inner fear that there will be no resources. Most likely, this is because the person has a low sense of self-worth and feels that they don't really deserve any money or possessions. In other cases, they may squander or give away what they have for the same reason. It is important to remember that if there are problems with money or possessions, that these are most likely not the real issue. The sense of self-worth is the key here." ...and:
"Chiron in Aries: Aries is the sign of selfhood and with Chiron here the sense of self may be weakened. Melanie Reinhart in Chiron and the Healing Journey says that sometimes the person feels as if they don't exist and have to take their sense of identity from others. I mentioned this to a friend who had Chiron in Aries opposing her Ascendant, and she said that it was true for her. She frequently felt that way. At the time, she was on her third marriage (there was also one live-in relationship), as she couldn't bear to be alone. Having a partner (opposition to the Ascendant) was the way she dealt with that feeling of non-being." - for others interested in how their own Chiron placement can be interpreted: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 01:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by 7thGuardian: Mine is in 11'th house...
My clients who have this will, usually, have issues with groups. Do you? Did you?
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7thGuardian Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Transylvania Registered: May 2012
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posted September 03, 2012 02:06 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: My clients who have this will, usually, have issues with groups. Do you? Did you?
...i guess - you could say that...i relate it to my introverted nature - i don't like being part of big groups - the smaller the better... i find group discussions meaningless - everybody's talking but nobody's really saying anything - to many interruptions - the discussion has no direction - one minute we're talking about a particular subject the next we're talking about something completely different - no room for depth... yet sometimes it can be fun - but i have more fun in smaller groups - for the opposite reasons... IP: Logged |
CosmicKarma360 Knowflake Posts: 632 From: here and there Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 02:19 PM
Oh, my Chiron is also in the 11th house. Yes, definitely have *issues* with groups. Sure doesn't help that my n.Saturn is also in the 11th... Good grief!Not too long ago I read somewhere that people with Chiron in the 11th can't have expectations. Yeah, it's weird. Something about if your Chiron is in the 11th, it's best not to focus on outcome. Just focus on the work, otherwise, you kind of "jinx" the outcome. For me, that's been very true. if I get all wrapped up about what the project looks like at the end, I seem to muck it up as I'm doing it. Not quite sure why Chiron would do that. I read a small passage in a bookstore a few months ago, so I don't quite remember what the whole thing said. IP: Logged |
Alabaster437 Knowflake Posts: 76 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted September 03, 2012 02:25 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Thank YOU for sharing Alabaster. I am glad you were able to do that in the safety of this thread.  Let me ask you this when you describe your mother. See where the Medusa asteroid is, if you know how. Do you know how to check for asteroids?
Thanks Ami Anne. I do know how to check for asteroids, but I'm unable to do so right now, since I'm on my phone. Thankfully, I'll be getting internet service at home this week  I'll be sure to look for the Medusa asteroid and keep ya posted. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 37181 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 02:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by CosmicKarma360: Oh, my Chiron is also in the 11th house. Yes, definitely have *issues* with groups. Sure doesn't help that my n.Saturn is also in the 11th... Good grief!Not too long ago I read somewhere that people with Chiron in the 11th can't have expectations. Yeah, it's weird. Something about if your Chiron is in the 11th, it's best not to focus on outcome. Just focus on the work, otherwise, you kind of "jinx" the outcome. For me, that's been very true. if I get all wrapped up about what the project looks like at the end, I seem to muck it up as I'm doing it. Not quite sure why Chiron would do that. I read a small passage in a bookstore a few months ago, so I don't quite remember what the whole thing said.
VERY interesting about expectations, as the 11th House is Hopes and Dreams, too. Thanks for that great info 
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CosmicKarma360 Knowflake Posts: 632 From: here and there Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 03, 2012 02:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: VERY interesting about expectations, as the 11th House is Hopes and Dreams, too. Thanks for that great info 
Ah! Hopes and Dreams! Never thought of that. Eureka! 
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7thGuardian Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Transylvania Registered: May 2012
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posted September 03, 2012 03:17 PM
quote: Originally posted by 7thGuardian: ...i guess - you could say that...i relate it to my introverted nature - i don't like being part of big groups - the smaller the better... i find group discussions meaningless - everybody's talking but nobody's really saying anything - to many interruptions - the discussion has no direction - one minute we're talking about a particular subject the next we're talking about something completely different - no room for depth... yet sometimes it can be fun - but i have more fun in smaller groups - for the opposite reasons...
It's also worth mentioning that besides Chiron i Have Mercury, Vesta, Pars Fortunae in 11'th house as well... as most placements Chiron is part of a bigger picture... says very little on its own. IP: Logged |
Jim Knowflake Posts: 93 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted September 03, 2012 03:25 PM
:O you told me what it meant to have it on 7th house , and what it meant to have it conjunct venus , you described it as suffering love if i remember correctly , haha, anyways love your threads ami.My chiron is in 7th house conjunct venus(as well on 7th) and both oppositioning Saturn My question would be , in wich way would this show up in my life , if chiron is in virgo ? IP: Logged |